So... the goal is what I set it to be.
But it cannot be ranking player kills and piracy profit?
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My god!...Solo, group mode and open play can't be the same universe!!!
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Not to mention that, most mainstream MMO style, games are pve with consentual pvp options i.e. flagging or instancing on exactly the same server in the exact same game.
This model would be wrong in ED, having unattackable ships floating around would be immersion breaking and just plain confusing. I think that is the main reason that this alternate mode system is the way it is and the reason it will remain this way. It is nothing new it is the norm in open world style gaming.
It would even be possible to assume this was done to benefit the pvp community by removing these unattackable targets
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OMG, when will ppl like the OP get it . this is not a typical MMO, it dont matter what other players are doing are not doing , they was sold an idea that they could play the game anyway they wanted , yes ANY WAY THEY WANTED. That means not forced into something.
theres 3 modes :
OPEN; where you get to play with others of a like mind griefers, gankers, and all out idiots, but also some good players.
GROUP ; PPL of a like mind that want other players in there game but but not the gankers, griefers, etc, Groups like MORBIUS which is a PVE group, so no ganking or other crap , just you and other players against what ever the game throws at you. Also this GROUP lets you play with just your friends in there own little sandbox of a game .
SOLO; where ppl that want to play on there own with no interference from any other player. these are ppl that wanted mainly offline mode, (thats only a guess). But these ppl want to play the game on there own where they immerse themselves in the environment with no outside interference.
So lets take away the last 2 groups from the game SOLO & GROUP what do you think is going to happen to those players from them 2 groups, you my think that they will play the game in OPEN, well i can tell you they will not, they will go play another game or do something else. Me i would not have bought the game if it was just OPEN play only, why , cause i like playing in the PVE group MORBIUS with other players against the environment and not have to worry about some idiot player that gets off on ganking newbies and players just for the fun of it, you ppl keep comparing the game to EVE, its not EVE it never will be , so get over it ,want EVE go play EVE.
Stop trying to change something that has been said it won't be and never will be, play the game YOUR way and let others play THERE way. Trying to force ppl in to OPEN play will only force them to go else where.
Phil
theres 3 modes :
OPEN; where you get to play with others of a like mind griefers, gankers, and all out idiots, but also some good players.
GROUP ; PPL of a like mind that want other players in there game but but not the gankers, griefers, etc, Groups like MORBIUS which is a PVE group, so no ganking or other crap , just you and other players against what ever the game throws at you. Also this GROUP lets you play with just your friends in there own little sandbox of a game .
SOLO; where ppl that want to play on there own with no interference from any other player. these are ppl that wanted mainly offline mode, (thats only a guess). But these ppl want to play the game on there own where they immerse themselves in the environment with no outside interference.
So lets take away the last 2 groups from the game SOLO & GROUP what do you think is going to happen to those players from them 2 groups, you my think that they will play the game in OPEN, well i can tell you they will not, they will go play another game or do something else. Me i would not have bought the game if it was just OPEN play only, why , cause i like playing in the PVE group MORBIUS with other players against the environment and not have to worry about some idiot player that gets off on ganking newbies and players just for the fun of it, you ppl keep comparing the game to EVE, its not EVE it never will be , so get over it ,want EVE go play EVE.
Stop trying to change something that has been said it won't be and never will be, play the game YOUR way and let others play THERE way. Trying to force ppl in to OPEN play will only force them to go else where.
Phil
Would you like to point the posts which compared or wanted this game to be like EvE?
Besides all this madman rambling of
Has been said so many times on the same subject .just search the threads and u will see that is what ppl where expecting it or wont it to be.
This is new to ppl that play MMO's, there expecting the same old same old, whe in fact they have been presented with a new conception of what an MMO is and how its played .
Phil
This is new to ppl that play MMO's, there expecting the same old same old, whe in fact they have been presented with a new conception of what an MMO is and how its played .
Phil
Haha, so they don't actually exist. searching "eve online" comes up with a thousand threads due to the word "online"
If you claim there to be a lot of posts about the topic, you can easily point those out.
Yes it can be pirating profit, I pirate sometimes, but and here is the thing that some players wont be able to get their heads around, I don't set out to kill said player I am pirating, I am after some cargo pure and simple, if I can get a little cargo with no fight then all the better for all concerned, if they try to make a run then I will try to take down the shields and nab some with a limpet and LET THEM GO on their merry way, I will never try to kill someone outright, I will even give them ample time to get the hell out of dodge once some cargo has been dropped. Player versus Player does not have to mean I must kill them just for being there and unlucky enough to be picked by me. Too many players equate piracy with killing unfortunately and call themselves pirate when they are no such thing.
Piracy = Cargo
Killing for the sake of it because I can/want to = not understanding piracy and misunderstanding what this game is about (in my humble opinion)
The difference between equipment and being unable to see them at all is completely different thing.
A pirate player killing another player is murder but is not necessarily griefing. That word just gets misused far too often on this forum
Forced Open will be a force open trash bin for me. I will forget about this game faster than you can say "pwned! haxx0r 1337 strikes again". So dead tired of the whole pvp crap. Besides in Solo Mode no one can see me play Pong in the toaster cage for being to hungover to steer.
And one more thing: 'Play it your own way'. That's exactly what i'm doing without being confined by the rules of 'this system belongs to Da Mighty Panda Clan, pay a toll or be nuked"
And one more thing: 'Play it your own way'. That's exactly what i'm doing without being confined by the rules of 'this system belongs to Da Mighty Panda Clan, pay a toll or be nuked"
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So true. If they don't want to PVP with other people, why do they play an online game involving combat? I mean, they could play Hello Kitty Online
Risk-averse players are the worst things that has ever happened to online gaming and it's killing games and community. The less unconsensual PVP there is, the less online games are being developed and the less people play them.
Now I understand why some need an offline mode just to be able to go from sidewinder to eagle, but does online gaming really need them? I don't think so.
However, what online gaming needs is more gameplay allowing for multiple accounts, and that's where the REAL gamer shines: the man with the most dedication (the man that has more accounts) should be the man with the best chances in combat. Elite did it all wrong in that aspect. Direct control flight? this game is gonna tank LOL no serious gamer wants to fly spaceships, this is time lost when you could be infiltrating somebody's clan under a false identity (ingame ofc we PVP types know how to separate gaming from RL, something players obviously cannot
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So true. If they don't want to PVP with other people, why do they play an online game involving combat? I mean, they could play Hello Kitty Online
Risk-averse players are the worst things that has ever happened to online gaming and it's killing games and community. The less unconsensual PVP there is, the less online games are being developed and the less people play them.
Now I understand why some need an offline mode just to be able to go from sidewinder to eagle, but does online gaming really need them? I don't think so.
However, what online gaming needs is more gameplay allowing for multiple accounts, and that's where the REAL gamer shines: the man with the most dedication (the man that has more accounts) should be the man with the best chances in combat. Elite did it all wrong in that aspect. Direct control flight? this game is gonna tank LOL no serious gamer wants to fly spaceships, this is time lost when you could be infiltrating somebody's clan under a false identity (ingame ofc we PVP types know how to separate gaming from RL, something players obviously cannot
Looks like you are playing the wrong game then
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So basically any game with MMO is about killing off each other. Right. And 'some'? Wow...just...i don't even
There's no ON or OFF here. I HAVE played a lot of pvp in Cod, CS and very succesfully in GW2, but those were DECISIONS made by me because i felt like it, not FORCED on me.
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Exactly. These are the type of people who think of themselves as "hardcore gamers". They are torn between going to their shift at McDonalds, or trying to play Counterstrike in real life.
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And folks with crappy internet speeds, who want to play and like the low bandwidth option that solo play provides. For these open play is auto death, due to lag times for data packet arrival.
So true. If they don't want to PVP with other people, why do they play an online game involving combat? I mean, they could play Hello Kitty Online
Risk-averse players are the worst things that has ever happened to online gaming and it's killing games and community. The less unconsensual PVP there is, the less online games are being developed and the less people play them.
Now I understand why some need an offline mode just to be able to go from sidewinder to eagle, but does online gaming really need them? I don't think so.
However, what online gaming needs is more gameplay allowing for multiple accounts, and that's where the REAL gamer shines: the man with the most dedication (the man that has more accounts) should be the man with the best chances in combat. Elite did it all wrong in that aspect. Direct control flight? this game is gonna tank LOL no serious gamer wants to fly spaceships, this is time lost when you could be infiltrating somebody's clan under a false identity (ingame ofc we PVP types know how to separate gaming from RL, something players obviously cannot
>EVE online avatar
>complaining about players and 'unconsentual pvp'
>bragging about infiltrating corps
>thinks point/click spaceship control is good
Obvious troll but in case it isn't go back to playing EVE since you love it so much.
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