Very nasty reply to the OP's post. Looks like you're the one who needs therapy!
My issue with the sudden increase in cheaters/hackers...
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Sure. It doesn't matter. There's no money at stake or anything like that. But part of the joy of Elite (for me) is actually the idea of being in a shared universe with other commanders -- even if I don't encounter them all that much. I'm far from the richest commander in the game, and I don't play the meta. I rather like wandering around in a battered Cobra III -- even if I've access to everything except the rank-locked ships. But stuff like this is just enough to take the edge off my enjoyment enough that (it seems) I don't log in. Your mileage may vary!
I might as well do it again, but this time for good.
Last time I did it, I was away for almost 4 years.
From my perspective FD can't deliver and can't communicate. As a software developer I might have sympathy and understanding, but as a customer I don't have to accept their behaviour.
And that's what baffles me most: I can interpret their lack of action and communication only as their lack of care. Trust is the cornerstone of every relationship and when trust is eroded, it is very hard to earn it again.
This.
I tend to think the current hysteria about hackers is largely self perpetuated. It also promotes it and makes it more likely.
I don't dispute that there are hackers, but I think there is more talk about hackers then hacker activity.
Well, the only way to fix that assumption is probably by paying them a visit.
Or just consider that they are working hard and trying their best.
Well, if the hackers had any brains they would be doing it all in solo. You have to be a special kind of stupid to use hacks where others can see you. Not just for your own account, but its a clear signal to players that hacks exist, which alert the devs, which then work on fixing it. If they all stayed in solo then it may be the hacks wouldn't even be discovered, so they actually make the life of the hackers harder. I'm pretty sure the hack devs used to strongly advise people to only use it in solo, because they also know that it causes them extra work.
But there again, i suppose for some people they use it open to kill other people to show off how "great" they are.
Oh, I'm 100% sure that they're hard working people.
I'll just quote Lou Reed: "Oh, some people work very hard, but still they never get it right".
Bottom line: if you'd have 100,000 of your local currency, would you invest them in FD? And each of us have to answer that question to himself.
Oh, I'm 100% sure that they're hard working people.
I'll just quote Lou Reed: "Oh, some people work very hard, but still they never get it right".
Bottom line: if you'd have 100,000 of your local currency, would you invest them in FD? And each of us have to answer that question to himself.
Hmm....
I'd proably say yes, i think they make a good long term investment.
With another 2 IP in the works and more expansions on the way, i think its a relatively safe investment.
Perhaps their main weakness from an investment point of view is their dedication to ED. Its probably holding them back. Its quite a niche game that has been out quite a few years and they keep pumping resources into it. Its a passion project for DB which might be affecting his business perspective. Regardless, its what he built the independence of FD from publishers on, so its understandable he wants to take it as far as he can afford to take it. Its also good for reputation if he is willing to keep it going rather than just dropping it because its not making megabucks... as long as it remains somewhat profitable, i think his CFO and shareholders won't give him too much grief.
Lief Erikson did actually discover the new world first but forgot to submit his information to Earthly Cartographics (probably was drunk when he got back home, forgot all about it - it happens).
Is anyone gonna mention the natives?
That old Viking and scandalous Spaniard had boat hacks!
This is not the first hacking thread where you have defended cheating as "who cares" . It's very strange. Why do you find it so acceptable? Your public stance is that hacking shouldn't bother anyone. That we should accept it.
I'd say the contrary: short term investment yes, long term - no, because of customer retention. FD's business model is selling of games on sales. When they reach market saturation, they'll have big problems. Here's a very educational video from their CFO if you're interested.Hmm....
I'd proably say yes, i think they make a good long term investment.
With another 2 IP in the works and more expansions on the way, i think its a relatively safe investment.
Perhaps their main weakness from an investment point of view is their dedication to ED. Its probably holding them back. Its quite a niche game that has been out quite a few years and they keep pumping resources into it. Its a passion project for DB which might be affecting his business perspective. Regardless, its what he built the independence of FD from publishers on, so its understandable he wants to take it as far as he can afford to take it. Its also good for reputation if he is willing to keep it going rather than just dropping it because its not making megabucks... as long as it remains somewhat profitable, i think his CFO and shareholders won't give him too much grief.
Oh, if was looking for a quick buck i wouldn't invest in FD, unless i wanted to try my hand at timing the buying and selling, but you get that wrong and you can lose a lot.
FD seem to have a good line of products made with more coming. They are not a 1 trick pony, so future sales and revenue should continue, ensuring their growth and profitability, as long as they don't mess up. They will likely plateau at some point, possibly soon, but we are talking about investing now, not in the future. So i think i'll stand by my comment and say i would for now consider them a safe bet to invest in for a few years at least.
I don’t have to imagine it. I’m out about 40,000 light years, rim of the galaxy, have been for months. Trekking through huge swaths of previously unseen galaxy, until... oh, look at this, an Earthlike world, already Discovered by CMDR Gotherefirst. Good for him. Still new to me. Still get credits for scanning it.
My first thought isn’t “He must have cheated to get here.”, but the far more rational “He must have come by some other route.” Flying through space is the exact opposite of driving around Trafalgar Square... there is more that one way to get to nearly anywhere.
My experience was isn’t lessened by this. It happens.
"It wasn't you who got sent to a rebuy screen by a hacker, or who emptied their entire supply of ammunition with no effect on their shields, so why should you care? All this worrying about what other people do. I don't get it."
No. You really and truly don't.
Why would it upset me? Let me reverse this on you with a slightly different position:
If you abide by a local ordinance that states you must mow your lawn counter-clockwise, but others on your street do not, and mow their lawns clockwise, does this upset you? Or do you take comfort in knowing you are doing right, while everyone else does wrong?
I'm not phased by the notion that others might not pay their taxes. Should they ever be audited, that's their problem, not mine. I did what was expected of me.
There is an infinite jump range hack, too... That could explain Distant Ganks expedition, really. I was wondering how guys in full battleships remained sane while travelling to Beagle Point to kill explorers. With such a cheat, it would be super easy, barely an inconvenience. (a nod to Pitch meeting vids on YT, check those out)
FD, please check the use of hacks by anyone visiting BP in the last two months and act accordingly.
FD, please check the use of hacks by anyone visiting BP in the last two months and act accordingly.
Not to mention the indigenous population that 'discovered' it way before that
This especially. While I didn't bother to take the trip to Beagle point (a decal isn't enough to entice me), the fact that some cheaters could be doing this is disgusting. Granted the FSD Booster did make it possible for even a good chunk of Combat ships to have a nice trip for once (and make for some godly screenshots/wallpaper material with unconventional ships in unconventional locations), I wouldn't be surprised if some cheaters went the route of just insta jumping to Beagle point or other major waypoints just to have some slaughter fun.
If a PvP / ganker made the journey legit, then kudos to them and I wish them a bloody good slaughter fest. If a dirty cheater however is there doing it, that is just despicable as they couldn't even bother to chase their prey properly and wanted an easy mode way to gank with a massively unfair advantage.