My Old Frontier Elite 2 Star Map (so much nostalgia!)

Taluss

Taluss
I remember as a kid having my mind blown by Elite and I played it obsessively despite the fact that docking was positively lethal more often then not which I found frustrating. My father noting my obsession bought me Frontier when it came out and the star map went on to become my most prized possession. I took it everywhere a and the map was begginning to tear along the fold lines so mum suggested getting it laminated to preserve it. It wasn't exactly a great lamination job but when I discovered it a week ago amongst some old stuff I was glad she did it.

Hopefully the link below works! Edit: Can't seem to get images working so here is a link.
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https://imgur.com/a/Tb8kxD7

I really enjoyed frontier with the added atmospheric landing that where not in the first game, while simplistic by todays standards, made me feel like a real pilot. Of course the game was much harder than ED is now on many levels but I was able to travel around more in frontier than the original elite and so I felt a real feeling of satisfaction in mastering new gameplay elements. I also managed to figure out trade better in Frontier so had a bit more cash. I never did make elite tho mostly due to dereanking a few combat ranks on death - I got to either dangerous or deadly at best.

Of course the galaxy has changed quite a bit fron Frontier to ED, mostly due to the increased galaxy size, for example it used to be 2-3 jumps between Lave and Quince. Actually when I was playing ED about 4 months ago I had a moment of huge nostalgia in redicovering Lave, Diso, Leesti, Riedquat, etc so some areas have been quite faithfully preserved.

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https://imgur.com/a/qv61e54

I could keep going but I don't want this to be a wall of text besides I don't communicate well in writing so I might just wrap up.

It hit me a while back I had been playing the same series of games for 30 or almost 30 yrs... wow! I can't be sure it it has been 30 yrs as I don't remember my precision age when I got elite but if its not 30 years its probably only months out.

Thanks to Mr Braben for his dedication in keeping the series going! You created series that has resonated through my entire life and enrichened my childhood immensely. There is something about exploring the galaxy that I can't get enough of and elite does and did this very well.
 
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DNA-Decay

DNA-Decay
I believe there are folks who are interested but a few things:

1) Get a good clean shot with a sharp focus.
Check it - zoom right in and crawl around - is it sharp everywhere? do you need to change the angle? or the lighting? or get a tripod?

2) For images - The forum uses BB code: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode

3) The areas everyone wants to see are around The Old Worlds (center on LAVE) and Sol.
(except me - show me Alioth)

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Iskariot

Iskariot
Taluss said:
I remember as a kid having my mind blown by Elite and I played it obsessively despite the fact that docking was positively lethal more often then not which I found frustrating. My father noting my obsession bought me Frontier when it came out and the star map went on to become my most prized possession. I took it everywhere a and the map was begginning to tear slng the fold lines so mum suggested getting it laminated to preserve it. It wasn't exactly a great lamination job but when I discovered it a week ago amongst some old stuff I was glad she did it.

Hopefully the link below works! Edit: Can't seem to get images working so here is a link.
https://imgur.com/a/Tb8kxD7

I really enjoyed frontier with the added atmospheric landing that where not in the first game, while simplistic by todays standards, made me feel like a real pilot. Of course the game was much harder than ED is now on many levels but I was able to travel around more in frontier than the original elite and so I felt a real feeling of satisfaction in mastering new gameplay elements. I also managed to figure out trade better in Frontier so had a bit more cash. I never did make elite tho mostly due to dereanking a few combat ranks on death - I got to either dangerous or deadly at best.

Of course the galaxy has changed quite a bit fron Frontier to ED, mostly due to the increased galaxy size, for example it used to be 2-3 jumps between Lave and Quince. Actually when I was playing ED about 4 months ago I had a moment of huge nostalgia in redicovering Lave, Diso, Leesti, Riedquat, etc so some areas have been quite faithfully preserved.

https://imgur.com/a/qv61e54

I could keep going but I don't want this to be a wall of text besides I don't communicate well in writing so I might just wrap up.

It hit me a while back I had been playing the same series of games for 30 or almost 30 yrs... wow! I can't be sure it it has been 30 yrs as I don't remember my precision age when I got elite but if its not 30 years its probably only months out.

Thanks to Mr Braben for his dedication in keeping the series going! You created series that has resonated through my entire life and enrichened my childhood immensely. There is something about exploring the galaxy that I can't get enough of and elite does and did this very well.
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I still have the Frontier: Elite 2 box and all the original content: books, discs, and of course the star map. My map is in reasonable condition.
I can't remember at all what rank I had in Frontier. It was not Elite though, I am sure of that.
 

Patrick_68000

Patrick_68000
Iskariot said:
I still have the Frontier: Elite 2 box and all the original content: books, discs, and of course the star map. My map is in reasonable condition.
I can't remember at all what rank I had in Frontier. It was not Elite though, I am sure of that.
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I still have the box, discs, and the user manual but the card has disappeared

Maybe she's somewhere in the attic ?

:)
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
I was frustrated with that FE2 map. It showed star classes (which were part of the copy protection, as I recall: "count the number of A-class sstars in sector [-2, +1]" or some such). But what I wanted was a political map, so I could see at a glance the extent of the Superpower territories and the locations of large, prosperous but remote Indie systems.

So I made my own map, using 2 sheets of graph paper; it went all the way out to the edge of inhabited space (which was roughly [+14,+11] to [-14, -11].). The FE2 starmap was just a small irregular-rectangular patch in the centre of this larger map.

I still have that map, though I've never taken a scan or picture of it. I have it flattening under some heavy objects and hope to take a pic a little later tonight.
 

Sapyx

Sapyx
OK, here it be. I present, the map of the known universe in 3250.

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Federation planets are green; Imperials are deep red; Alliance is cyan. Indies are various colours, depending on government type. Co-ordinates were traditionally written as [x,y] where x is +east-west and y is +north-south. Note that this co-ordinate system is 2-D, and is facing a different alignment to the ED co-ordinates: "North" on these maps is in the direction of Earth's north pole, so that Polaris was in sector [0,70]. On these maps, the Galactic Core was in a south-westerly direction, as I recall.

As you can see, the Empire is a compact ball of systems, mostly within 30 LY of Achenar (the big red + sign in sector [1,-4]), though with a couple of outliers like Liaedin [-4,3]. The Federation is larger and more numerous, but much more diffuse; there's even a small cluster of Fed planets way out on the far side of Imp space, down around sector [2,-12]. The Federation also owns only one mining colony (Barnard's Star), with the rest of the Federation membership being outdoor Earth-like worlds; all the other mining colonies in "Federation space" were Corporate owned.

It doesn't show every inhabited system; there were lots of small anarchy and anarchistic "local corporations" mining colonies, which might have had one or two hard-to-find surface ports. This map focuses only on higher-population systems, including all inhabited Earth-likes.

Hand-made (not procedurally-generated) systems are in sectors surrounded by pencil-lines: the Civ-city-shaped grid of 16 sectors surrounding Sol (the big green + sign in [0,0]), the sideways-P-shaped block of five Old Worlds sectors around Lave (which is in [-3,-6], and about a dozen isolated sectors containing giant stars, like Alioth [0,4], anarchic Phekda [2,5] and Canopus [6,-6]; the latter was one of those "local corps" mining colonies too small to be marked on my map, but the sector was still pencilled. All other systems were procedurally-generated.

Many systems from the FE2/FFE universe did not survive the transition into ED. Others were radically altered, such as Quince, which was originally deep in Imperial territory; it's the small + sign in sector [-1,-5].

Of interest to me was what I called the "Enigma Region", a sparsely inhabited zone of space out around [5,8]. There were three systems out there that are marked as "uninhabited" on the galmap, but were full of planets, stations etc when you actually opened the system map or visited the system; there was also one of the mysterious "system under Federal interdict - illegal to visit" dictatorship planets out that way, too. (I think the whole "Federal interdict" thing was just another planned-but-never-implemented feature, as these systems did not require a permit, nor were there any restrictions on visiting them.)
 

NY09

NY09
Oh wow, that brings back some good memories. I played FE2 on my trusty Amiga 500+ for countless hours.

Does anyone remember the bug cheats? My favourite was clicking just below the 'jettison' button, it would jettison cargo but for some reason increase your ship capacity by 1t each time. It was hilarious roaming around with a Large PA on a Viper, the beam was so big that when you fired it you couldn't see anything out of the front window but blue beam.
 

Noob

Noob
NY09 said:
Oh wow, that brings back some good memories. I played FE2 on my trusty Amiga 500+ for countless hours.

Does anyone remember the bug cheats? My favourite was clicking just below the 'jettison' button, it would jettison cargo but for some reason increase your ship capacity by 1t each time. It was hilarious roaming around with a Large PA on a Viper, the beam was so big that when you fired it you couldn't see anything out of the front window but blue beam.
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THIS!!!!!

I thought I was the only one who stumbled upon that :)
 

DWorth

D
Heh I found out about that through a cheat page in a magazine (remember those?) I think I made an Eagle fighter with a Class 8 hyperdrive for the LOLs.
 

Gizzard

Gizzard
NY09 said:
Oh wow, that brings back some good memories. I played FE2 on my trusty Amiga 500+ for countless hours.

Does anyone remember the bug cheats? My favourite was clicking just below the 'jettison' button, it would jettison cargo but for some reason increase your ship capacity by 1t each time. It was hilarious roaming around with a Large PA on a Viper, the beam was so big that when you fired it you couldn't see anything out of the front window but blue beam.
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I started elite/FE2 on the Amiga, then PC.. Loved FE2 so much! Miss the imperial Courier as it was, and the navy missions.. Good times. 😊
 

AxeGaijin

AxeGaijin
Yup, still have mine, twice even. One for the initial Amiga version I bought and a second for the PC (CD-ROM) version I bought a couple of years later. As a matter of fact I still have the box, the manual, the gazetteer and the booklet with the short stories too :)

Aah playing al those years ago on my Amiga CDTV (the wireless remote game pad worked with this game), and now I'm playing on an Oculus Rift with a HOTAS.
Just wished we coul dhave multiple commanders on a single account, I had tons of different saves back then.
 
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