But the Federation doesn't build a station in Empire space?
My open letter to Fdev
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But the Federation doesn't build a station in Empire space?
its kinda weird that a Private , read Private group , effects ppl not from that private group , i know server , multi etc , but still... give it atleast a other name.
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something like Open PvE? (though the finer details of such an open PvE has as much enthusiastic debate as the modes themselves it sometimes seems)
but if that is what you meant then You are preaching to the choir
PS lots of games allow you to progress in solo or private or all in modes....... The issue is imo FD chose to tie in individual character progression with the entire game universe progression.
Whether this is a good or a bad thing is subjective.... but it is what it is and its not like FD did not tell us all over 3 years ago it would be so.
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Well my wet dream would be , be 1 server and/or offline
There would have to be a massive rewrite of the code to take out instancing, the lag WILL be worse and it'll take way more money than you think.
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Apparently the Empire thinks Pleiades belongs to them.
Goose4291
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The thing (from a RP-ers perspective) is that Frontier are the Gamesmaster. Their job is to build a rich tapestry which we, as players, can interact on. When things don't go their way, they should take it on the chin and move on, rather than moving the goalposts to suit what they want.
A clear example of what I mean is this:
Once we (as a group) were playing a pen and paper RP game, and came to a chasm that needed to be crossed.
My wife asked the question "How deep is it?"
Our friend (the GM) responded "40 Feet."
Our response to the obstacle was to get rope out of our backpacks, climb into the chasm and climb out on the other side.
It turned out, part of the 'story' he had planned was that we cut down a tree to make a makeshift bridge which would have angered some tree-loving creature, and lead to an encounter. Instead, he rolled with our decisions within the framework he'd built, accepted it and let the game play out the way we wanted (as the players).
By tinkering with the BGS to suit their 'story', what Frontier in the above example have done is effectively gone. "You reach into your backpack, and all your rope is rotten." or "You climb into the chasm. Rocks fall and kill the party."
That is what people are having a problem with.
People were having problems with you forcing your RP onto others. That is a KEY RULE for RPers (as I am one myself).. never force your rp onto others. Yet 13th Legion did and now complain that Fdev called their and went, "Well if you are going to behave like that then let's fix this"
yeah will never happen , such things need to be at the beginning or never.
Goose4291
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You're right, but that only works in a non-competitive scenario (which this game does not, by its nature, lore or mechanics engender).
When it becomes competitive, you as a GM must stick within the framework you built. If two players characters have an issue, let them thrash it out within the game and the world you've built, not by god-modding.
Frontier didn't tinker with the story, they fixed a problem of the game. Lockdown of a system resulting in a CG not working anymore is a game breaking problem.
Sure, it would have been better if FD used the new situation and build a nice little story around it giving those players who causes the lockdown something to feel good about. It would have changed nothing since the CG was already a success and only if they added a CG that allowed the first CG to fail would have changed something fundamentally.
On top of that FD provided a in-game explanation of what happened. They acknowledged the actions of the imperial players. The imperial players got more than they could have expected in the first place.
Yeah, but Frontier is also an participant (or more than one, depends on your PoV). And (imo) they acted rather as participant than as gamemaster when lifting the lockdown on Segovan. It is more than plausible that a simple contact between federal high command and ramsbottom could accomplish that lift.
Wouldn't the example be different if one player pulls a rope out of a backpack and another player says "All the rope is rotten."?
Because that's essentially what happened. Rather than seeing it as an OOC lift of the lockdown, they could go with the IC explanation that the Federation simply lifted it again.
Instead we're on page 48 of a thread complaining about the reaction of another participant.
13th dished out a blow to the Federation, the Federation reacted, now 13th refuses to accept it. That's like someone who demands a second roll of a dice because he rolled a one instead of a twenty.
Galactic News: Federal Campaign Resumes
11 JUL 3302
Four days ago, the Federation launched a campaign to construct a new Federal outpost in the Segovan system. Federally aligned pilots were invited to contribute construction materials to the campaign, but the request proved controversial, with various sections of the galactic community asking why the Federation was expanding towards the Pleiades sector.
Not long after the campaign began, Imperial pilots began targeting traders delivering cargo to the Ramsbottom Hub starport. As the situation escalated, system authorities imposed a system-wide lockdown in an attempt to maintain order. Ramsbottom Hub was closed, and pilots wanting to deliver materials were left with no way of contributing to the campaign. Authorities insisted that the lockdown was intended to keep the system's inhabitants safe, but Federal pilots were understandably frustrated.
Recent reports from Segovan indicate that the Federation has now despatched a deputation to the system – including two Farragut-class Battlecruisers – and convinced system authorities to lift the lockdown. A Federal spokesperson said:
"The lockdown had a negative impact on our campaign, certainly, but the huge quantity of material delivered to Ramsbottom Hub prior to the lockdown means we are still confident we can meet our baseline targets."
"With the lockdown now removed, we would like to renew our plea to Federally aligned pilots to support this vitally important initiative."
11 JUL 3302
Four days ago, the Federation launched a campaign to construct a new Federal outpost in the Segovan system. Federally aligned pilots were invited to contribute construction materials to the campaign, but the request proved controversial, with various sections of the galactic community asking why the Federation was expanding towards the Pleiades sector.
Not long after the campaign began, Imperial pilots began targeting traders delivering cargo to the Ramsbottom Hub starport. As the situation escalated, system authorities imposed a system-wide lockdown in an attempt to maintain order. Ramsbottom Hub was closed, and pilots wanting to deliver materials were left with no way of contributing to the campaign. Authorities insisted that the lockdown was intended to keep the system's inhabitants safe, but Federal pilots were understandably frustrated.
Recent reports from Segovan indicate that the Federation has now despatched a deputation to the system – including two Farragut-class Battlecruisers – and convinced system authorities to lift the lockdown. A Federal spokesperson said:
"The lockdown had a negative impact on our campaign, certainly, but the huge quantity of material delivered to Ramsbottom Hub prior to the lockdown means we are still confident we can meet our baseline targets."
"With the lockdown now removed, we would like to renew our plea to Federally aligned pilots to support this vitally important initiative."
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Did the Empire openly oppose this and authorize military action? Or, was this committed by an insubordinate group of renegades engaging in open warfare without authorization?
Since we're role-playing.
Since we're role-playing.
The latter ^^
Empire couldn't give a flying asp about this. It seems that certain players think ED is a BK Whopper and want it their way. Sorry but all your gonna get is FDev's spitting in your Burger.
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Well. If this wax unauthorized, all members involved should be held accountable. Perhaps demotions? Removal of ships? Since we're role-playing
Just get rid of single player and private groups. There are enough players unhappy already about the state of things. Doing this will put everyone on an even par. Just deal with it. It seems totally ridiculous to have 2 states of play where private groups can affect the same universe.
Making a minority of players happy by making the majority unhappy seems like a pretty dumb idea. Anyways you might be better off in this thread.
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