Nerfs, Buffs, Changes... Are Going To Ruin This Game
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I like all the changes and am struggling to see were anyone would have issue here
Make PvP more interesting
Made more builds viable
Made the pa terrifying and cannon viable
Improved frag
More ships will spawn (npc)
And for all you people with a p.p but who hate being hounded
Boom fixed unless you are carrying p.p items
Make PvP more interesting
Made more builds viable
Made the pa terrifying and cannon viable
Improved frag
More ships will spawn (npc)
And for all you people with a p.p but who hate being hounded
Boom fixed unless you are carrying p.p items
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This^
And that's the thing:
I think most people can understand and acquiesce to the fact that an MMO on a 10-year-development-plan is going to need tweaking and adjusting along the way.
However it is FD's complete inability to simply "tweak" or "adjust" things in the game with out breaking five un-related mechanics or changing the intended mechanic 25X more than they had set out too.
It's the fact that FD do not understand the term "light touch" that makes players like me anxious over any changes to the game - because who knows what the results will be?
I agree that the nerfing is a little annoying, but the stuff announced today is mainly buffs no?
At least there's some hope. Yes not every change is bad but it seems when FD comes out with changes that it's more negative than good and, thus, the negative changes out weigh the positive ones.
Only if you don't read between the lines. For instance, gimbal accuracy is now tied to sensor rating - most of us are rolling with D sensors because the A's are too heavy and suck up too much power for an anemic boost in range.
Result: Effective nerf to gimbals, requires a complete reevaluation of your builds.
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I very much agree on what you wrote, except about the P2P part. The decission for this architecture negatively affects the game in many ways. While it's true that a server based architecture has other issues, there is a number of games around which show that they can be contained. That being said, the network infrastructure usually is so integral to the development of a game that switching it in most cases eqals developing much of the game anew.
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So we shouldn't hold our breath and hope for a change here. FD pinched a few pennies, the game pays the price. But all we can do is some grumbling and muttering into our beards (as far as available) and rather look ahead. After all, todays postings and some other recent proceedings here give the impression that some key persons at FD have learned their lessons and things are now being run better.
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So while not all problems can be fixed at once (and some will remain for a long time), things are getting better and we should enjoy that.
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I hope so.
But the last set of "adjusting" was supposed to buff haulage & other types of missions, and ended up nerfing the ever living, ever loving snot out of passenger missions.
*shrug*
For example, I'm still tweaking my ship loadout since 2.2 dropped and I'm getting close to finishing it up and feeling comfortable with it (had to the do same when 2.1 came out and so forth). Now this forces me to change stuff again and I don't have 10, 15+ hours a week to sink into the game. I just wanna build up my stuff and enjoy it without the worry or fear of stuff changing. It's exhausting.
Those examples in no way could be considered 'relearning the game' though. You still could apply all your existing skills.
Not being able to run freight from Robigo did not force us to learn an entirely new skill set, nor rendered the old ones obsolete.
I guess there's at least a reason to bother with A rating and consider it. I like everyone else just used D because I couldn't see any benefits whatsoever.
That's not relearning the game, though. It's just realigning with current tactics.
Exactly this. I play with an xbox controller and heavily rely on gimbals, as fixed weapons with a pad are extremely difficult. Now I ether have to re-evaluate ALL of my ship builds, or take a hiatus from playing the game, and re-learn how to play with a joy-stick.
I don't think it's a bad change, necessarily, and it makes sense. But 2-years in seems a bit late to be changing how the weapon/sensor interplay is supposed to work. I now how have to either re-learn to play the game, or re-out fit all of my ships.
I don't feel like I'm blazing my own trail. I feel like I'm just reacting to changing game mechanics that have been set for months.
I disagree. This is a game in the midst of development and this mean there will be a lot of dynamic changes over time. If you cannot handle this then perhaps wait with playing the game until it is completely finished in a few years.
Creating a game with solo and multiplayer aspects is a difficult balancing act and this particular game is created while we're in it and are in a unique position to communicate with the very responsive devs.
It also is a huge and long term project and FD want ED to have staying power, so they keep a watchful eye on the forums and make changes to the game when they feel this is appropriate. FD is unable to always know beforehand how certain additions and tweaks influence gameplay in the long run. So they need to keep on top of things.
Because the game is in full development and will get many more additions FD will have to make sure that things do not get unbalanced or unplayable.
Of course the result of this process can not always be to everybody's liking, but in general I must say that the process has changed a lot for the better and I expect it it to improve even more.
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my lovely gimbals have been hit with the nerfbat, because PvPers don't like it the way it is
I applaud the fact they're working on 'balancing' but it's the age old problem of hammering PvE to balance PvP. I never PvP, so all I get is the wrong end of the nerf™.
Also I'm appreciating the dev time and stuff that has been put into this.. Balancing really is a delicate art. BUT, in a game where one's opponent simply has a 'general powercut at the house' at sign of trouble, it makes me wonder if content should be at the forefront of dev time..
Or just buy A-rated sensors and you will be fine.
my lovely gimbals have been hit with the nerfbat, because PvPers don't like it the way it is
I applaud the fact they're working on 'balancing' but it's the age old problem of hammering PvE to balance PvP. I never PvP, so all I get is the wrong end of the nerf™.
This. I go out of my way to not PvP, and just about every single [long string of expletives] patch has had the effect of making my life more difficult.
Is the jump in power rating and mass for sensors really that high?