New AMD 16.1 Hotfix drivers - Include fix for Win10 and Supercruise FPS issues

Soothsayer

Soothsayer
I was too lazy to uninstall my existing drivers before installing this hotfix, so let's hope it doesn't cause even more problems than I had beforehand. :)
 

ICDP

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drholliday said:
It is very unlikely not a generic freak driver bug. To be frank. ED is not important enough to fix incompetence on behalf of the developers in your driver. If it would have been FDev's fault I don't think AMD would have fixed it. ED isn't a bad seller. I think it's #15 for 2015 on Steam. But it's certainly not THE GAME that's going to give you problems. If this would be GTA then that's a different story. If that game doesn't work you will have problems and it doesn't matter if those idiots can't code. It has to work. But ED is certainly not GTA.

Chances are it had something to do with shaders. If it would have been FDev's fault AMD would have told them what they are doing wrong and FDev would have fixed it in the last update. But the last update still didn't work before the drivers update. So it clearly is an issue that could not be solved outside the driver. And that strongly suggests FDev wasn't doing something wrong. It just wasn't working as it should have.

Drivers are getting more and more complex and so are shaders. And shaders are hand crafted. So there's a good chance for bugs. Much more than using generic APIs that are well tested with little chances for freak bugs that didn't pop up before.
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A logical conclusion and one I would gravitate towards. It was pretty much exclusive to Win 10 on AMD hardware but I suspect AMD had a lot of more important issues to resolve and were working on the new Crimson drivers as a priority. A non AAA game like Elite Dangerous would fall under the category of "not a priority until Crimson is out".
 

avow555

avow555
I was just about to pull the pin and hit the sack last night at 4am-ish and I noticed the patch had been released.

3 hours later I'm still in SuperCruise, lol

NB Updated drivers without uninstalling and worked fine.
 
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interox

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i don't have Horizons so this relates to the default game. W10 64 home I7 6700K@ 4.5 + R290 AMD GPU, this hotfix has taken me from 30 fps to 95ish fps in supercruise using the Ultra preset. A good week for game fixes for me, no more launcher issues, no more HRES crashes and I also found out via these forums I could add a steam key. All in all an improved experience playing ED.
 
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Hardwood

Hardwood
Samel said:
I'm going home and testing it, I hope they fixed it because it's annoying. You can have a workaround by creating a link to ccc.exe on your desktop and launching it after the pc startup, no need to change the setting again, just start ccc.
Reported the bug a few minutes ago on the amd bugtracker.
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Just noticed this. I get it back to center by clicking on additional settings in the Radeon Software.... which loads the CCC subset as Samuel notes.
 

yibble

yibble
This resolved this long-standing issue for me! I'm totally stoked, I can now join the fray in Open Play without dropping to 8FPS in SC. I still see framerate drops in Supercruise (from 100FPS to 65FPS) but still very playable.
 

Robert Maynard

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Robert Maynard
yibble said:
This resolved this long-standing issue for me! I'm totally stoked, I can now join the fray in Open Play without dropping to 8FPS in SC. I still see framerate drops in Supercruise (from 100FPS to 65FPS) but still very playable.
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Do you find that it cycles - from max to a lower rate then it seems to recover to the max (and repeat)?

My first impression was that the driver was doing some form of "housekeeping" to tidy up whatever used to cause the crippling slow-down. My monitor is 60Hz max so I have my output rate limited to that rate an was seeing 60 > 53/55 > 60 > repeat last night.
 

nosscar

nosscar
Robert Maynard said:
Do you find that it cycles - from max to a lower rate then it seems to recover to the max (and repeat)?

My first impression was that the driver was doing some form of "housekeeping" to tidy up whatever used to cause the crippling slow-down. My monitor is 60Hz max so I have my output rate limited to that rate an was seeing 60 > 53/55 > 60 > repeat last night.
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Using windows 10, my r9 280 seemed to stay constant at 59-60fps in SC, even in the busy areas, (V-Sync on, i have all settings on max, scaling on x1), on approach to stations i did see micro dips down to 55, but they recovered back to 60 pretty quick, overall improvements too, even on planets, and approaching them, i am getting lowest of 40fps, driving SRV, sometims dips to 35 but i tested with settings on ultra and high (max i could get) slider all way to the right. Overall very pleased with this driver.
 
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Robert Maynard

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nosscar said:
Using windows 10, my r9 280 seemed to stay constant at 59-60fps in SC, even in the busy areas, (V-Sync on, i have all settings on max, scaling on x1), on approach to stations i did see micro dips down to 55, but they recovered back to 60 pretty quick, overall improvements too, even on planets, and approaching them, i am getting lowest of 40fps, driving SRV, sometims dips to 35 but i tested with settings on ultra and high (max i could get) slider all way to the right. Overall very pleased with this driver.
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Using Windows 10, FX-8350, 32GB, R9 280X, V-Sync also on.

Don't get me wrong - 53FPS as a low point in SC (possibly slightly lower when approaching a planet for landing) is a massive improvement for me - I was previously seeing less than 10FPS on some occasions in SC. Well pleased with the result.
 

AcG

AcG
All the way from station to station 60fps - Win10 - R9 390
This should have been under the Christmass tree :)
 

Theta Sigma

Theta Sigma
ICDP said:
As opposed to defending FD in the usual Fanboi fashion despite not having anything constructive to say in a thread created to provide information only?

There as absolutely no need for you (or others) to come on this thread trolling people to say they should apologise to FD "because it was AMD's fault all along". None of us have a real clue what broke the SC FPS on AMD cards, especially considering Nvidia GPUs have hardly been trouble free. How about just leaving the thread be for people to provide constructive feedback rather than trolling.
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Yes. Fanbois should definitely give both AMD and FDEV equal benefit of the doubt and be as objective and constructive as possible.

Equally, fanbois should completely ignore the fact that many naysayers jumped straight in to blame FDEV, clogging up the forums with vitriol and hand-rubbing, before continuing to do so for months and months and months - with no evidence either way - as to which entity was at "fault".

Or something.
 

Pile_O_Gunz

Pile_O_Gunz
Robert Maynard said:
Using Windows 10, FX-8350, 32GB, R9 280X, V-Sync also on.

Don't get me wrong - 53FPS as a low point in SC (possibly slightly lower when approaching a planet for landing) is a massive improvement for me - I was previously seeing less than 10FPS on some occasions in SC. Well pleased with the result.
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Sounds good! Been looking forward to this I got the same specs but 16gb ram and a 270 so hopefully itl work for me too ! :D
 
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icecloud

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I will be able to say if this helps any, but when I tried to download and upgrade to it last night it crashed my Windows 10 OS and now it will not boot after a setup repair. So I get to reinstall O/S, but will let you guys & gals know if it does anything for me.
 

DeLorean

DeLorean
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!

The bug occurred just as I was planning to do my first big explore, months ago. At last I can head out into the unknown!
 

yibble

yibble
Robert Maynard said:
Do you find that it cycles - from max to a lower rate then it seems to recover to the max (and repeat)?

My first impression was that the driver was doing some form of "housekeeping" to tidy up whatever used to cause the crippling slow-down. My monitor is 60Hz max so I have my output rate limited to that rate an was seeing 60 > 53/55 > 60 > repeat last night.
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I'm not sure if it cycles, but it certainly does fluctuate, and it occurred when new contacts messages appeared too. I did the bare minimum of testing last night due to time constraints, I hope to get some more testing in this weekend.

I'm still stoked, as this is a vast improvement over 8.6FPS. I'm more making the observations as with the Oculus Rift announcement was made I'm more sensitive to games that drop below 90FPS.
 

Darth-Simba

Darth-Simba
To the people using vsync on, why?

I have it off (in all games, except fallout 4 coz I cant find the option) I am on a 60hz monitor, get fps 100+ average - never dips below 60 (now drivers are sorted) and also never get any tearing with vsync off
 

Mordu

Mordu
Darth-Simba said:
To the people using vsync on, why?

I have it off (in all games, except fallout 4 coz I cant find the option) I am on a 60hz monitor, get fps 100+ average - never dips below 60 (now drivers are sorted) and also never get any tearing with vsync off
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If my understanding is correct, since you have a 60hrz monitor, you are still seeing 60 fps even when you show a higher FPS indicated due to your GPU duplicating frames. So in essence, you're overworking your GPU and not getting anything in return.
Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. I have a 60hrz monitor as well, and have vsync turned on to prevent tearing and to prevent my GPU from overworking when it doesn't need to.

Note* I'm running a 60hrz monitor with a pair of AMD R285's.
 
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