New Planet Tech is KILLER of Exploration (all terrain is tiling/repeating/not procedural/random)

Milkman76

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Tenuem said:
Well you've skipped a thread and a half haven't you? I am pointing out how some here are seeing repeating patterns that don't really exist. It is a common flaw in the human's brain observation of things where it tries to find patterns in reality.

Now, I am very aware and agree that there is an issue with planetary generation repeating biomes. Let me make that clear, there is an issue in SOME cases where it also becomes VERY EVIDENT. But some people are taking it too far and seeing non existant patterns in some surfaces. It is a dangerous activity that could lead of obsession and no amount of patches from Frontier will cure.
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No, Ive followed the thread and I see the images, I just havent opted to comment here as much because I dont care about this as much as the other game-breaking issues I am discussing.

The images showing repeating textures are crystal clear, and I see them in my game at will. But since some useless goons trolled the thread with pictures from outside elite, you want others to think the people who see the bad textures are suffering a brain disorder or cognitive bias of some kind?

Isnt it just easier to, you know, admit the textures are a bit poor in this release? All this just to defend the brand and/or get your jollies off on peoples' anger?
 

Lone_star

Lone_star
fourrunes said:
David B. Just had a whole post about Fleet carriers hurting the network then talked about performance, and disconnects.
Then how innovative this game is (which is true)...

At this point this is their main focus...MVP stabilize, optimize.

There will be no near future fix for the issue on this thread so it seems.
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There is no quick fix for this. I fully expect it to take 6-12 months (it's not just this... they have the gamma/lighting/shaders issue too)

And actually fix is the wrong word... it's more "unfinished" than "broken"
 

Just

Just
Agrar Therenus said:
Yes ignore. Such a great feature. Also Mr Ultraforcapture posting pointless music videos.
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Oh, so it's not "ultraforcecapture"?
It's funny how brain works, I read it wrong when I saw this for the first time and it stayed like this for some time.
We really look at the world through our memory more then through eyes ;)
 

Tenuem

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Milkman76 said:
No, Ive followed the thread and I see the images, I just havent opted to comment here as much because I dont care about this as much as the other game-breaking issues I am discussing.

The images showing repeating textures are crystal clear, and I see them in my game at will. But since some useless goons trolled the thread with pictures from outside elite, you want others to think the people who see the bad textures are suffering a brain disorder or cognitive bias of some kind?

Isnt it just easier to, you know, admit the textures are a bit poor in this release? All this just to defend the brand and/or get your jollies off on peoples' anger?
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For me it is crystal clear that there are no repeating textures in WYRD. What's your point?

The other examples clearly do and I have said it on repeated occasions. But for some reason WYRD 2B is a sensitive topic no one can argue against. Also woah, I haven't said that anyone has a brain disorder at any point. It is nature lf the human brain to seek patterns and we all can experience it at any point. Only another person can break you from such an "observation".
 

Tenuem

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Agrar Therenus said:
I prefer they waste their time posting on a forum where everyone is ignoring them. The posts should stand as a testament I wouldn't want them removed.
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And this is just for being in disagreement. Incredible. This level of attack for debating your point of view. I will be here after the mods notice this was a forum discussion, as it should be. I will be here to tell you.
 

Amy Pendergast

Amy Pendergast
Just said:
It gave me an idea:

Odyssey 200% FC upkeep cost increase that was later rolled back is coming back,
they only postponed it until player community will calm down a bit.
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You mean like tax rise? :D

Even if I don't have carrier, I think that would be bad. But perhaps it would reduce the count of these things a bit. Just imagine Battlestar Galactica with 1 mio+ Galacticas oO
 

Erei

Erei
Just said:
It gave me an idea:

Odyssey 200% FC upkeep cost increase that was later rolled back is coming back,
they only postponed it until player community will calm down a bit.
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Or fix it so it's not as much an issue on the server ? Why it should be for the player to pay for the game issues ?

Maybe I'm too stupid and can only see what's obvious.
 

Just

Just
Erei said:
Or fix it so it's not as much an issue on the server ?
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I am too lazy atm to fill it with text, but I guess you get the idea anyway ;)

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Miko

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PontifusRex said:
I think the reason that there hasn't been any announcement made for new console support is because [all] console support will be quietly suspended and then ended.
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On the contrary, I think what's more likely is Frontier being arrogant enough to expect they can get away with minimal work by continuing with the last gen consoles and should anyone want better performance from Elite, leaving it to the next gen systems using backwards compatibility to offer any buff in performance - all without any work at their end.
 

Erei

Erei
Miko said:
On the contrary, I think what's more likely is Frontier being arrogant enough to expect they can get away with minimal work by continuing with the last gen consoles and should anyone want better performance from Elite, leaving it to the next gen systems using backwards compatibility to offer any buff in performance - all without any work at their end.
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The minimum requirement for EDO is barely enough for the consoles. Might be too high even. They will not pass certification without optimization.
 

Amy Pendergast

Amy Pendergast
Miko said:
On the contrary, I think what's more likely is Frontier being arrogant enough to expect they can get away with minimal work by continuing with the last gen consoles and should anyone want better performance from Elite, leaving it to the next gen systems using backwards compatibility to offer any buff in performance - all without any work at their end.
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I hazard a guess: They postponed the console release for half a year knowing, that the console stores would not be so kind like Steam? CP anyone?
 

Erei

Erei
[VR] Amy Pendergast said:
I hazard a guess: They postponed the console release for half a year knowing, that the console stores would not be so kind like Steam? CP anyone?
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It can't run on console as is, which mean they can't pass the certification process. Which mean they can't sell it on console.
They know that. That's why it's delayed, and they even delayed the announcement for the requirement for the DLC.
And that's considering we don't have optimization issue, and the games works with the official requirement.
 

Amy Pendergast

Amy Pendergast
Erei said:
It can't run on console as is, which mean they can't pass the certification process. Which mean they can't sell it on console.
They know that. That's why it's delayed, and they even delayed the announcement for the requirement for the DLC.
And that's considering we don't have optimization issue, and the games works with the official requirement.
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That's what I also meant, yeah. And hotfixing on consoles won't work, as they have to certifiy every patch again.
 
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