New player Advice from a New Player ( Non Combat )

Oh wow and yeah that’s pretty cool! Easy to get Ally as well doing trading. I am about to dump some gold off at a station took me two jumps let’s see what I get, wholly crap 216 units @ 2.29m sweeeet I almost have enough for a Kriat Phantom Lol!! Sometimes doing what is fun and enjoyable is better than grind or turning a game into work!
You could always pick it back up though maybe a little different from when you started and add more commodity’s to the spreadsheets at least for a project that is something You enjoy doing?
Never fly without rebuy and only switch to the Krait when you can A-rate most of it's modules.

Right on CMDR o7
 
Look at my streaming as an example I don’t stream because I have thousands of followers I stream because I enjoy it and it doesn’t bother my it’s just me watching it haha
 
This kinda reminds me of the old E2F, where that was pretty much my early game strat: start out in Ross, make your way to Sol or Barnard's Star, then trade goods between these two systems until you are saturated. You'd start out with grain and agri tools or so, then work your way up all the way to robots and luxury goods, part exchanging your ship periodically. ^^

That said, I also did my bit of trading in ED last year (when I started out), to top off my Trade rank after the mining bubble burst. I did use EDDB to maximize profits though. So sometimes that was tea, sometimes it was military fabrics, et cetera. I looked for routes that didn't require more than 2 jumps. The routes with the highest gross profit always had a snag: sometimes the target station was an outpost, or it was 8000 clicks out, or a planetary base. 🙃

Either way I also kept a few notes, let me see... Yeah I experimented with a Python on one route, a Type 7 on another and eventually a Type 9. In the very end I made 6.5 Mil per trip and squeezed 4 trips into 1 hour, hauling polymers with a T9. Finally my Trade rank flipped over to Elite and I immediately sold the T9. XD
 
This kinda reminds me of the old E2F, where that was pretty much my early game strat: start out in Ross, make your way to Sol or Barnard's Star, then trade goods between these two systems until you are saturated. You'd start out with grain and agri tools or so, then work your way up all the way to robots and luxury goods, part exchanging your ship periodically. ^^

That said, I also did my bit of trading in ED last year (when I started out), to top off my Trade rank after the mining bubble burst. I did use EDDB to maximize profits though. So sometimes that was tea, sometimes it was military fabrics, et cetera. I looked for routes that didn't require more than 2 jumps. The routes with the highest gross profit always had a snag: sometimes the target station was an outpost, or it was 8000 clicks out, or a planetary base. 🙃

Either way I also kept a few notes, let me see... Yeah I experimented with a Python on one route, a Type 7 on another and eventually a Type 9. In the very end I made 6.5 Mil per trip and squeezed 4 trips into 1 hour, hauling polymers with a T9. Finally my Trade rank flipped over to Elite and I immediately sold the T9. XD
I honestly think it would be cool if a real streamer who has fresh accounts on the go to try it out give opinions and what not. For me though it added up fast I was broke this morning couldn’t decide On a ship I wanted now I have a good set up and 37M sitting in credits and still making roughly 260k per trip in a CM3 not too bad IMO...
 
Here is my current stream of a CM3 running Gold and Tea in 1 Jump back and forth to the same outposts, Smaller ships land pretty quickly compared to medium and large ships. Another thing I notice with the smaller ships and the single jumps. prices don't change for hours or the next day. Link to Stream
 
Did you notice any price changes with bigger ships? I don't think a single player can ruin his own market. When I hauled Bulk with the T9 I didn't notice any price change despite thousands of tons moved. That is more of a gold rush effect that kicks in when a large number of players all dump the same commodity. And hauling bulk isn't such a popular pastime I think -- people either run cargo missions (paying up to 15M per run for Allies) or do their own mining.
 
You will notice price changes as soon as what you have in your hold can satisfy a significant portion of the local demand (starts IIRC around 10%, i.e. if local demand is 1000 tons and you carry 100 tons, then you'll start to see the effects of the "volume tax").
 
I reset my Epic freebie alt account multiple times:

I did the Road to Riches (R2R) once, pretty cool, lots of jumping and decent cash, quick enough to move up to CM3, DBX, ASPX, etc
I did the tag wanted ships in a medium or high resource extraction site combat, seemed quicker than R2R for making money, and bonus of some mats for engineering later
I did the missions in and around the starter system, gets you $$$, but too slow in my opinion
I like you OP did do the trade route. I used 3rd party sites alot to make sure I was always making a decent profit. Very good and quick way to make $$$, just like combat

I still have not done any passenger missions, but that is another way to make good money I have heard. Robigo mines and Sirius Atmospherics runs

My Epic alt has a T7 for large pads and large amounts of cargo in one run.
My most used ship at the moment is an AspX
And I have a DBX for exploration
And I have a Vulture for Combat

I still have my CM3, but I am not using it alot lately. It will not be sold however

It is good to try all the different game play loops to see what you like and do not like, and which make decent money
 
Did you notice any price changes with bigger ships? I don't think a single player can ruin his own market. When I hauled Bulk with the T9 I didn't notice any price change despite thousands of tons moved. That is more of a gold rush effect that kicks in when a large number of players all dump the same commodity. And hauling bulk isn't such a popular pastime I think -- people either run cargo missions (paying up to 15M per run for Allies) or do their own mining.
Now that you mention it, there is no difference at all between the Type-7 to the CM3 with price changes they basically don’t but what I like about this is it’s easy and cheap to get into it’s also very relaxing and if your a chatter box on the forums I started this thread when I was at 8m credits I am about to be at 40m Lol
 
I reset my Epic freebie alt account multiple times:

I did the Road to Riches (R2R) once, pretty cool, lots of jumping and decent cash, quick enough to move up to CM3, DBX, ASPX, etc
I did the tag wanted ships in a medium or high resource extraction site combat, seemed quicker than R2R for making money, and bonus of some mats for engineering later
I did the missions in and around the starter system, gets you $$$, but too slow in my opinion
I like you OP did do the trade route. I used 3rd party sites alot to make sure I was always making a decent profit. Very good and quick way to make $$$, just like combat

I still have not done any passenger missions, but that is another way to make good money I have heard. Robigo mines and Sirius Atmospherics runs

My Epic alt has a T7 for large pads and large amounts of cargo in one run.
My most used ship at the moment is an AspX
And I have a DBX for exploration
And I have a Vulture for Combat

I still have my CM3, but I am not using it alot lately. It will not be sold however

It is good to try all the different game play loops to see what you like and do not like, and which make decent money
Exactly I mean yeah mining and the rest is probably good for 90% of people for the ones who like to try something different and are super well Lazy like I am haha this is a very good option 🤣🤣
 
Actually if you look at my streams I spent three days exploring for 3.4m

You can get that by mapping 2-3 terraformables HMC in a previously undiscovered system.

I got like 260 millions in 3 days*, visiting 600 systems and mapping less than 40 planets (probably less than 30, but i cant really remember now the exact numbers)
Plus a lot of really nice discoveries

* yea, sure, they were like 3 full days - that is like 25-30h of gameplay
 
How far do you have to fly to find an undiscovered system these days? I haven't found a single one yet (my longest trip out was the 5000ly one for Palin).
 
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You can get that by mapping 2-3 terraformables HMC in a previously undiscovered system.

I got like 260 millions in 3 days*, visiting 600 systems and mapping less than 40 planets (probably less than 30, but i cant really remember now the exact numbers)
Plus a lot of really nice discoveries

* yea, sure, they were like 3 full days - that is like 25-30h of gameplay

For sure I mean if you want to explore it is great way to start out to I still want to do it but over trying it for a while and simply what I think is enjoyable I really like this Trading I mean the entire time I been a chatter box on the forums I made 32million and some of that was experimenting with different types of ships and commodity’s also I really wanted to give mining an Honest run but for the amount of work compared to just filling a ship with Cargo Bays and going from A to B I am overall pretty Happy. Not* knocking at all what is better or more enjoyable for people. But I been watching a lot on YouTube even from before I bought this game and took an extended break from it. I am back and having Fun! I might get into some mission running too once I feel motivated lmao!
 
How far do you have to fly to find an undiscovered system these days? I haven't found a single one yet (my longest trip out was the 5000ly one for Palin).

depends where you going.
IF you see something interesting in the sky, dont go there, other already did it years ago.

So, i'd say a couple thousand light years should be enough, IF you dont go to some well known destination (guardian space, nebulas, etc)
 
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For sure I mean if you want to explore it is great way to start out to I still want to do it but over trying it for a while and simply what I think is enjoyable I really like this Trading I mean the entire time I been a chatter box on the forums I made 32million and some of that was experimenting with different types of ships and commodity’s also I really wanted to give mining an Honest run but for the amount of work compared to just filling a ship with Cargo Bays and going from A to B I am overall pretty Happy. Not* knocking at all what is better or more enjoyable for people. But I been watching a lot on YouTube even from before I bought this game and took an extended break from it. I am back and having Fun! I might get into some mission running too once I feel motivated lmao!

Trading is nice, but exploration has its charm

This thread is really nice and below is my modest contribution

 
Did you notice any price changes with bigger ships? I don't think a single player can ruin his own market. When I hauled Bulk with the T9 I didn't notice any price change despite thousands of tons moved.
It very much depends what you're hauling.

I once cleared out the entire market demand in all commodities at a single station with a T9, on my own, but it was an incredibly low-population station. Even a slightly larger one it wouldn't have been possible ... but certain slow-use trade goods can be cleaned out even with a Python at a mid-population station.

There are plenty of commodities where even at zero demand you can still make a decent profit ... and equally quite a few where in the wrong circumstances you can make a small loss on an unsaturated route.

All part of the variety, though Frontier's recent "rebalancing" has put Extraction economies way out of line with the others.
 
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