New player-most likley leaving the game NOT because of the AI but because of you

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To say that OP is the problem is a personal attack and was unneeded, so no I don't agree with someone who uses personal attack, period.
Personaly I don't care about what people who can't communicate in a respectfull manner say but frases like git gut or adapt are shortsighted and selfish.
One thing I like so much about this forum is that it came close to a place of tranquility and contemplation compared to others, people are helpfull and friendly.
Call me naive but I didn't expect this sudden personal and condescending approach so sudden by some, on another forum yes, but here, no.

let's just discuss our discrepancies with the update in a co-operative manner without having to resort to unproductive and unnecessary mudslinging.
You are right about that, calling him the problem was wrong, i didn't mean to suggest that, but merely to suggest that one must have a thick skin, but i'm sure we all agree that most here are actually friendly.
 
I'm going to say this once and once only. Leave the personal attacks at home.

Thanks

That directed at me or the forum title? Because the forum title is a personal attack on everyone who reads it.

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You are right about that, calling him the problem was wrong, i didn't mean to suggest that, but merely to suggest that one must have a thick skin, but i'm sure we all agree that most here are actually friendly.

.Just to make it clear to both of you guys:
The forum TITLE was a personal attack on me when i read it.
 
Wow this forum gas gone for the worse in the last days.
I can't really talk about much yet since i'm far far away from the bubble.

I can say however that the massive increase of elitist comments is poisoning the forum. "Git gud", "wing up", "you suck" and "it's called elite dangerous for a reason" is not helping anyone. If i want to be insulted i can go and sign up in a Call Of Duty forum.

Please keep it civilised here. This community is so much better than that.
I know it.
With respect, is "wing up" unhelpful advice though? Certainly it is to those who want to play solo mode, but otherwise it seems the logical thing to do now, almost a given if you want to be able to take on the more threataning encounters rather than turn tail.
 
I started a week ago yes blah blah the AI will be fixed but that doesn't matter now. It is how the community became toxic very quickly, honestly it wasnt the new players posting about AI. The verterns just because down right rude on these forums and reddit. Instead of giving advice like a good load out or start here ( I give rep to the ones that did, you must of had people that loved you as a child) they just spammed things like "git gud" or "wing up" then you have the ones that just say "well you suck, get better" sure that is really helping the new CMDRs. You want to be a part of the community thats great , be productive and useful not rude and spiteful like a teenager because someone doesnt understand your opinion. I liked this game because of the learning curve so I may play with mostly adults. That seems not to be the case. For you "pros" out there how about you post some videos of you destroying AI your SAME level and ship class so we can learn and better our selves as noobs.

P.S. you want this game to keep going, it needs people to buy it so try thinking about that before your next git gud to a new CMDR

Why should you leave the game because you do not like some people on the forums?
I do not get the connection.

You won't be able to play any game if this is your modus operandi.
Forums are always problematic.
 
Think before i talk?

A) thats pretty insulting and not helping your case
b) your title on this thread was also insulting to me
c) thick skin? really? thick skinned people dont get hurt my "meanies"

if i seem annoyed or agitated its because i am. The last couple of days have been nothing but wave after wave of people crying and shouting IM LEAVING FD BROKE MY GAME. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would get fed up of this. especially people who actually LIKE the changes. But the people that do dont take the time sing its praises as loudly as those who dont for some reason. So its just a constant never ending barrage of negativity. THATS whats likely to drive people away. Not the gIT GUD commenets because only a very small select fiew would actually be offended by that. Its rediculous.

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What ship and specifically what hard points are you putting them on ?

There are a few ships that need slight "nose up" to fire hard points placed on the underside of the ship ..

Adder initially, though now it's my Cobra Mk3. Put them on the Class 1 slots (Multi-Frags on the Class 2s).

I have essentially specced my Cobra for Trading, Exploration and low-level Combat.

I have 2 Gimballed Beam Lasers, 2 Gimballed Multi-Frag Cannons, 2 of those Turrets that shoot down missiles, Military Grade Bulkheads, BDS, ADS, Hull Reinforcement Package (can't remember which, but it cost like 20 - 30K), Class 4 Shield generator and power generator (I think my max power limit is about 14Mw and I'm just under 12 with Hardpoints deployed). Multiple upgrades to everything else (2 Class 4 Cargo racks = 32 space, lighter (D) Life Support and Sensors to decrease mass), the best Power Coupling I could find (cost like 150K+).

I mean, I've spared very little expense for such a relatively early-game ship, so I'm confused why I'm getting torn up so easily. The rebuy cost is over 150K credits, so my Cobra Mk3 must be worth, what? 3 million credits?

I don't know. I'm kind of new to all this. :/
 
My friends list has more people on it lately than there are new people on this forum complaining that it isn't like it used to be
 
.Just to make it clear to both of you guys:
The forum TITLE was a personal attack on me when i read it.

The title didn't refer to your name did it?
Why to respond to the title or the original post with another personall attack even if you found the title a personal accusation is beyond me though.
I can only speak for myself but when someone starts to attack me personally I just ignore that person, discussing, debating all good, getting personal, I'm out.
 
The title didn't refer to your name did it?
Why to respond to the title or the original post with another personall attack even if you found the title a personal accusation is beyond me though.
I can only speak for myself but when someone starts to attack me personally I just ignore that person, discussing, debating all good, getting personal, I'm out.

Spoiler : i didnt. i was just highlighting your logic. If my post was a personal attack so was his.

He didnt mention me my name.. but the post said -you- I read it..it said me..so..the post was directed at me. See what a huge pain in the ass all this hyper sensitivity is? Yeah.
Also to even further invalidate your point.. i ended my post by saying exactly what he said in the title.its nothing to do with the game..its you. Theres literally no difference in what i said.. yet he gets the sympaty?
Rediculous. Really.
 
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Think before i talk?

A) thats pretty insulting and not helping your case
b) your title on this thread was also insulting to me
c) thick skin? really? thick skinned people dont get hurt my "meanies"

if i seem annoyed or agitated its because i am. The last couple of days have been nothing but wave after wave of people crying and shouting IM LEAVING FD BROKE MY GAME. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together would get fed up of this. especially people who actually LIKE the changes. But the people that do dont take the time sing its praises as loudly as those who dont for some reason. So its just a constant never ending barrage of negativity. THATS whats likely to drive people away. Not the gIT GUD commenets because only a very small select fiew would actually be offended by that. Its rediculous.

Think before you talk.

Nah, to be fair whats probably driven OP to despair is stuff like this -----> https://youtu.be/oZN_yZ07-18 <----- happening, which I'm sure you can agree is horrifically wrong, and then when their dissatisfaction is expressed in an understandably distressed manner they are instantly met with a tidal wave of "git gud", "stop playing" and other such intensely useful replies. But hey, if YOU condone such constructive and useful debate, then thats just fine and dandy. You might be content with an unconstructive cesspit, most are not.
 
Spoiler : i didnt. i was just highlighting your logic. If my post was a personal attack so was his.

He didnt mention be my name.. but the post said -you- I read it..it said me..so..the post was directed at me. See what a huge pain in the ass all this hyper sensitivity is? Yeah.
Also to even further invalidate your point.. i ended my post by saying exactly what he said in the title.its nothing to do with the game..its you. Theres literally no difference in what i said.. yet he gets the sympaty?
Rediculous. Really.

The original poster was referring to those using the frases git gut etc. not someone in particular.
You however answered to his post, addressing him personaly.

This bickering doesn't build any bridges though, I can see were the OP comes from and I can understand your point of view, personaly I would've picked another choice of words though.
 
Nah, to be fair whats probably driven OP to despair is stuff like this -----> https://youtu.be/oZN_yZ07-18 <----- happening, which I'm sure you can agree is horrifically wrong, and then when their dissatisfaction is expressed in an understandably distressed manner they are instantly met with a tidal wave of "git gud", "stop playing" and other such intensely useful replies. But hey, if YOU condone such constructive and useful debate, then thats just fine and dandy. You might be content with an unconstructive cesspit, most are not.

That's a bug.
 
But how else could one answer a post without adressing them personally?what was i suppose to do? just silently disagree? Youre right though..poor choice of words. Maybe i should have taken the time to consider his feelings..then again..he didnt..so..*shrugs
 
I started a week ago yes blah blah the AI will be fixed but that doesn't matter now. It is how the community became toxic very quickly, honestly it wasnt the new players posting about AI. The verterns just because down right rude on these forums and reddit. Instead of giving advice like a good load out or start here ( I give rep to the ones that did, you must of had people that loved you as a child) they just spammed things like "git gud" or "wing up" then you have the ones that just say "well you suck, get better" sure that is really helping the new CMDRs. You want to be a part of the community thats great , be productive and useful not rude and spiteful like a teenager because someone doesnt understand your opinion. I liked this game because of the learning curve so I may play with mostly adults. That seems not to be the case. For you "pros" out there how about you post some videos of you destroying AI your SAME level and ship class so we can learn and better our selves as noobs.

P.S. you want this game to keep going, it needs people to buy it so try thinking about that before your next git gud to a new CMDR


What, me personally?

Bally poor show old bean, what what!

I have never met you sir.

Good day sir and may I add, damn your eyes!

Toodly pipsky
 
Nah, to be fair whats probably driven OP to despair is stuff like this -----> https://youtu.be/oZN_yZ07-18 <----- happening, which I'm sure you can agree is horrifically wrong, and then when their dissatisfaction is expressed in an understandably distressed manner they are instantly met with a tidal wave of "git gud", "stop playing" and other such intensely useful replies. But hey, if YOU condone such constructive and useful debate, then thats just fine and dandy. You might be content with an unconstructive cesspit, most are not.


Yes. Cesspits FTW.
 
Can the mods close this thread, it's seems to be going down a toxic route and I for one don't want this nice little community turning all WOT bile infested and lashing out at each other. It's a game it's not real life it's not that important in the grand scheme of things. So play nice people it isn't hard to be civil to each other
 
All the helpful friendly people are still here. They're just being drowned out a bit. Things will calm down. In the meantime may I suggest my piranha thread? Or my Thargoid thread in Dangerous Discussions?
All nice and friendly and calm.
Is everybody calm now?

Lovely.
 
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