Coaster Crazy New Rollercoaster Game: question to staff.
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Could it be vaporware. Anyhow, if there are any RCT3 ridemakers out there for flat rides, well, PM me
I would be somewhat ed if it was all just vaporware
Especially now that Atari has apparently confirmed that they are not making a new roller coaster game.
Now I'm really counting on Frontier to make a great game.
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This is not known, Atari is now creating a game Rollercoaster Tycoon for the Nintendo 3DS and not saying if this working in a next Rollercoaster Tycoon PC.
I think that Atari "If" is working with a new Rollercoaster Tycoon game but do not say because it is a surprise. In 2010 Zodiac public in Atari forums that you were thinking about your next RCT, just 2 years ago, very little, There are games that have been years of development so I think that here 4 years so we will have.
^ Yesterday, Atari posted on their forum that they are not currently making RCT4. See post #51 on this thread:
http://forums.atari.com/showthread.php?t=15618
http://forums.atari.com/showthread.php?t=15618
Yeah we are relying on Frontier now. No bad thing as they will do a better job than Atari more than likely anyway. Atari have lost their way in last few years.
Says there is no RCT4 plans, for now. But this does not mean that it is not a RCT4 in the future. RCT3 is a game with many sales and at the moment is this selling also on the web of Atari. I think that if gonna but later, as Atari through bad economic times.
Well guys, we really tried to do something for everyone, but it just didn't happen the open source way. The right folks we needed were never really there from the start when it came to coding and David Braben predicted this. The modeling and other resources were. For now the "Open Park Developer" team is trying to have a go at it and I wish them all well.
What I have proposed is releasing certain tpb3d ride models for conversion to RCT3 from the old TPB3D repository since we had over 176 rides in all. So we might be able to keep rct3 alive a bit longer till something else comes along. I had talked to Michael maybe about partnering with the open source community and creating a open source maybe for profit product sort of a free version and a more feature packed low cost version, but you know Michael and David they wanna keep the Braben Shots "" all to themselves Do we hear Vaporware here :S
What I have proposed is releasing certain tpb3d ride models for conversion to RCT3 from the old TPB3D repository since we had over 176 rides in all. So we might be able to keep rct3 alive a bit longer till something else comes along. I had talked to Michael maybe about partnering with the open source community and creating a open source maybe for profit product sort of a free version and a more feature packed low cost version, but you know Michael and David
they wanna keep the Braben Shots "" all to themselves Do we hear Vaporware here :SHello Frontier
Excited to find out that after all these long years, work is being done on a new roller-coaster related game.
The game appears to still be in an early development phase as there is no official information available just yet, perhaps I could make a couple of suggestions.
I thoroughly enjoyed RCT1 & 2, and I thought RCT3 was rather mediocre -- it was a little too slow to my preferences.
The game's pace felt pretty perfect in the original games. Visitors getting in and out of attractions went smooth, whereas in RCT3 it took them a lot longer. I think the "flow" of the game should lean closer to 1 & 2 instead of RCT3.
The idea of all possible kinds of roller coasters being available is fantastic, but my biggest frustration was that there were so many of them that the list got quickly cluttered up, while often a certain coaster would pretty much be the same as an other, except with a different type of train. However, this is a tough problem to overcome.
In reality, for a roller coaster constructor, they start off at a couple of root-coaster-types:
Steel-coaster
Wooden-coaster
Mega-coaster
Hyper-coaster
Launch-coaster
Water-coaster
Powered-coaster
...
The type of track and type of train, as well as the type of elements that are going to be available, is decided from that point on.
If you use a drop-down menu while building a coaster, where you first select your overall coaster-type, next you select your track & train-type, and then you can start constructing it and adding elements that are available for the selection you have made, I think it would work better.
After all, most every type of standard coaster can contain a looping, so there is no need for all kinds of different looping-coasters to clutter your screen. But if you select a Water-coaster, the looping element becomes unavailable, just the same that if you choose a Hyper-coaster, the splash section becomes unavailable, and so forth.
It would keep the game's menu clean and give the player the ability to really create the ride he wants to, as long as it lives up to what's realistically possible.
There are also major differences between coaster-constructors in real life. A B&M uses entirely different track types and trains than a Vekoma or an Intamin. Though I don't know how something like this could be implemented in the game, especially as not a lot of people are aware of the differences, but it could still be of interest to keep in the back of your mind while designing this game.
Of course you couldn't use all of the constructor's names in the game, this would cause way too much licensing issues, but if you could make up your own constructors inspired by the real ones, it could provide a fun extra level of immersion. Am I going to invest in a really expensive, luxurious roller coaster with high quality themeing, or just a run off the mill default coaster by a cheaper constructor? After all, for the price of the high-quality one, I could probably build two less expensive ones, or a coaster and a flat-ride. These provide interesting choices for your parks -- quality vs quantity.
Park management should be number 1 priority, riding the rides yourself should come in second. It was nicely done in RCT3 and a fun feature, but it wasn't what I played the game for. While playing the RCT series, I've only ever wanted to build theme parks that I would like to visit myself, and to see them being succesfully; seeing trains get filled up, selling umbrellas when the rains comes in, watching the people enjoy a good (questionable) hamburger, seeing my rides all working in their glory, etc. That, to me, is what a fun theme-park game is all about and what makes it fun.
Also, what I've always really missed in the RCT series were proper restaurants. Of course stalls are important in parks, but every park I know has at least 1 actual restaurant. Being able to construct the layout of a restaurant myself and configure the menus and prices would be absolutely brilliant, but I'd already be very happy if there was a list of default restaurants to choose from.
Working with seasons as in reality is another interesting idea, but I don't know how good it could work. This adds another interesting type of choices to make: will my park stay open year-round or will I be open only in the typical themepark season? Will I start constructing a new ride in the fall, to open up in the spring? Though if this system is worked with, game-time days should last longer than they did in the previous games. Seeing your park be quite empty on a cold day could give you the idea to construct a nice indoor-ride or even zone. By the time it's finished, you could start to see a lot more visitors even on colder days. This would be another level of immersion within the game.
I hope these ideas come in useful, and I wish Frontier lots of luck and good times in developing this project, I will follow this one closely.
--krisdw
Excited to find out that after all these long years, work is being done on a new roller-coaster related game.
The game appears to still be in an early development phase as there is no official information available just yet, perhaps I could make a couple of suggestions.
I thoroughly enjoyed RCT1 & 2, and I thought RCT3 was rather mediocre -- it was a little too slow to my preferences.
The game's pace felt pretty perfect in the original games. Visitors getting in and out of attractions went smooth, whereas in RCT3 it took them a lot longer. I think the "flow" of the game should lean closer to 1 & 2 instead of RCT3.
The idea of all possible kinds of roller coasters being available is fantastic, but my biggest frustration was that there were so many of them that the list got quickly cluttered up, while often a certain coaster would pretty much be the same as an other, except with a different type of train. However, this is a tough problem to overcome.
In reality, for a roller coaster constructor, they start off at a couple of root-coaster-types:
Steel-coaster
Wooden-coaster
Mega-coaster
Hyper-coaster
Launch-coaster
Water-coaster
Powered-coaster
...
The type of track and type of train, as well as the type of elements that are going to be available, is decided from that point on.
If you use a drop-down menu while building a coaster, where you first select your overall coaster-type, next you select your track & train-type, and then you can start constructing it and adding elements that are available for the selection you have made, I think it would work better.
After all, most every type of standard coaster can contain a looping, so there is no need for all kinds of different looping-coasters to clutter your screen. But if you select a Water-coaster, the looping element becomes unavailable, just the same that if you choose a Hyper-coaster, the splash section becomes unavailable, and so forth.
It would keep the game's menu clean and give the player the ability to really create the ride he wants to, as long as it lives up to what's realistically possible.
There are also major differences between coaster-constructors in real life. A B&M uses entirely different track types and trains than a Vekoma or an Intamin. Though I don't know how something like this could be implemented in the game, especially as not a lot of people are aware of the differences, but it could still be of interest to keep in the back of your mind while designing this game.
Of course you couldn't use all of the constructor's names in the game, this would cause way too much licensing issues, but if you could make up your own constructors inspired by the real ones, it could provide a fun extra level of immersion. Am I going to invest in a really expensive, luxurious roller coaster with high quality themeing, or just a run off the mill default coaster by a cheaper constructor? After all, for the price of the high-quality one, I could probably build two less expensive ones, or a coaster and a flat-ride. These provide interesting choices for your parks -- quality vs quantity.
Park management should be number 1 priority, riding the rides yourself should come in second. It was nicely done in RCT3 and a fun feature, but it wasn't what I played the game for. While playing the RCT series, I've only ever wanted to build theme parks that I would like to visit myself, and to see them being succesfully; seeing trains get filled up, selling umbrellas when the rains comes in, watching the people enjoy a good (questionable
) hamburger, seeing my rides all working in their glory, etc. That, to me, is what a fun theme-park game is all about and what makes it fun.Also, what I've always really missed in the RCT series were proper restaurants. Of course stalls are important in parks, but every park I know has at least 1 actual restaurant. Being able to construct the layout of a restaurant myself and configure the menus and prices would be absolutely brilliant, but I'd already be very happy if there was a list of default restaurants to choose from.
Working with seasons as in reality is another interesting idea, but I don't know how good it could work. This adds another interesting type of choices to make: will my park stay open year-round or will I be open only in the typical themepark season? Will I start constructing a new ride in the fall, to open up in the spring? Though if this system is worked with, game-time days should last longer than they did in the previous games. Seeing your park be quite empty on a cold day could give you the idea to construct a nice indoor-ride or even zone. By the time it's finished, you could start to see a lot more visitors even on colder days. This would be another level of immersion within the game.
I hope these ideas come in useful, and I wish Frontier lots of luck and good times in developing this project, I will follow this one closely.
--krisdw
I've tried so hard from posting suggestions on here as I doubt they'll ever get noticed, or taken in to account..
Assuming that this ride is still in development and not shelved, building on the idea from the poster above, I was thinking about this the other day. You could get the ride manufacturers involved and categorise the rollercoasters by manufacturer.
So, for example, you chose B&M. You get 2 options, upright or inverted track. Which ever you chose, you then unlock all the different track inversions B&M make. You then complete your circuit and chose the train that sits on the track (so upright you could chose from hyper, sit-down, stand-up, wingrider etc and for inverted you could chose from inverted, flyer etc) That way you have the possibility to have a flyer with the same inversions as an inverter and thus no frustration when it comes to us fanboys wanting to be imaginative with their designs.. Should also make the animation and programming more efficient too. Would also allow us to keep up with manufacturers that add inversions to rides that never previously had inversions... That's assuming that we are still working on a "snap to grid" style, it would become more interesting if we end up with a no-limits style design or a hybrid between the 2!!
Also, the other bug bear with the RCT franchise (but RCT2 kind of touched on it) would be peep interaction with new rides being built. I'd love to see a "blueprint" feature where you design a ride, the scenery and any land changes you need to make, plonk it on the land and have a choice of building it in real time (ie the land gets fenced off and a company will come in and actually build the ride from the ground up over a period of many months) or auto-build which keeps the style that we have now where the ride is instantly built and available. This way, peeps can get excited with new rides, just like we do. Although, I can imagine that the programming required for all the animations of building in real time would be huge to make it real...
Just a couple of thoughts I'd like to share!
Assuming that this ride is still in development and not shelved, building on the idea from the poster above, I was thinking about this the other day. You could get the ride manufacturers involved and categorise the rollercoasters by manufacturer.
So, for example, you chose B&M. You get 2 options, upright or inverted track. Which ever you chose, you then unlock all the different track inversions B&M make. You then complete your circuit and chose the train that sits on the track (so upright you could chose from hyper, sit-down, stand-up, wingrider etc and for inverted you could chose from inverted, flyer etc) That way you have the possibility to have a flyer with the same inversions as an inverter and thus no frustration when it comes to us fanboys wanting to be imaginative with their designs.. Should also make the animation and programming more efficient too. Would also allow us to keep up with manufacturers that add inversions to rides that never previously had inversions... That's assuming that we are still working on a "snap to grid" style, it would become more interesting if we end up with a no-limits style design or a hybrid between the 2!!
Also, the other bug bear with the RCT franchise (but RCT2 kind of touched on it) would be peep interaction with new rides being built. I'd love to see a "blueprint" feature where you design a ride, the scenery and any land changes you need to make, plonk it on the land and have a choice of building it in real time (ie the land gets fenced off and a company will come in and actually build the ride from the ground up over a period of many months) or auto-build which keeps the style that we have now where the ride is instantly built and available. This way, peeps can get excited with new rides, just like we do. Although, I can imagine that the programming required for all the animations of building in real time would be huge to make it real...
Just a couple of thoughts I'd like to share!
One thing I would like to see are the maintenance buildings. Meaning when the park first opens or is slow, we have the option to use one train (I know we had this option before by clicking how many trains we want) I mean we get to see the track change and switch to the maintenance bay and see the train move in and out onto the circut. Say the line gets really long we push a button "add train" and when safe to do so another train arrives. Like what Disneyland does. The same for putting less trains. The train would back up and the maintenace door would close.
Also we would have to make sure each train has the proper maintenance. Paying to have the wheels changed. Poor maintenace mean less trains we can use and more angry peeps. (Magic Mountain) Somewhere someone mentioned having to keep up with the paint fading on the coasters. Same idea.
Also we would have to make sure each train has the proper maintenance. Paying to have the wheels changed. Poor maintenace mean less trains we can use and more angry peeps. (Magic Mountain) Somewhere someone mentioned having to keep up with the paint fading on the coasters. Same idea.
rock n roller coaster test in cry engine
Hello
i was play around with the cryengine 3 and after 2 month of hard work here is the result
Mr Brookes, if you see this video , i'm ready and and free to come in Frontier Studios !!
please enjoy this video
that's what i want for a new roller coaster game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tX2iaJmOsg
Hello
i was play around with the cryengine 3 and after 2 month of hard work here is the result
Mr Brookes, if you see this video , i'm ready and and free to come in Frontier Studios
!!please enjoy this video
that's what i want for a new roller coaster game
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2tX2iaJmOsg
Best news ever
Played RCT3 and all the expansions when they first came out, and since then on and off every so often. I personally enjoyed making parks and rides more than managing the little nuances. I made custom objects for the game years ago and am currently playing again making new models as we speak. As long as you make the game for PC I will be a happy guy. I agree the game will be more successful with modding tools available. I know game development is an arduous process and I wish your team well and will be waiting with bated breath on any announcement you may make whenever that happens to be.
Played RCT3 and all the expansions when they first came out, and since then on and off every so often. I personally enjoyed making parks and rides more than managing the little nuances. I made custom objects for the game years ago and am currently playing again making new models as we speak. As long as you make the game for PC I will be a happy guy. I agree the game will be more successful with modding tools available. I know game development is an arduous process and I wish your team well and will be waiting with bated breath on any announcement you may make whenever that happens to be.
I am a very big fan of the rct series since the first version.
Its awesome to finally know we will get a up to date platform for creating and managing our them parks and rides.
My wishes :
- 3d mode / ( like rct 3 )
- ride , walk , sit , swim ? in first and third person .
- Custom user based scenery support
- TUNNELS, CAVES, TUBES + Scenery for making it seamless and smooth with the mountains.
- Large Sandbox/Tycoon mode
- Better AI ( peeps interacting with pavement and rides )
- Underground/underwater, building + ride combinations
- MORE ANGLES NOT 90 °
I hope you guys have fun developing the game . As we will have fun playing it
Ill buy for shure .
Its awesome to finally know we will get a up to date platform for creating and managing our them parks and rides.
My wishes :
- 3d mode / ( like rct 3 )
- ride , walk , sit , swim ? in first and third person .
- Custom user based scenery support
- TUNNELS, CAVES, TUBES + Scenery for making it seamless and smooth with the mountains.
- Large Sandbox/Tycoon mode
- Better AI ( peeps interacting with pavement and rides )
- Underground/underwater, building + ride combinations
- MORE ANGLES NOT 90 °
I hope you guys have fun developing the game . As we will have fun playing it
Ill buy for shure .
Oh God, I'm really sorry for turning this in to a wishlist post! Given that it's not meant to be one!!
Can any-one say for sure whether the game is even still in development, or been scrapped completely? It seems a little TOO quiet for a game in development, unless it's a total secret for some reason..
Can any-one say for sure whether the game is even still in development, or been scrapped completely? It seems a little TOO quiet for a game in development, unless it's a total secret for some reason..
Michael Brookes says it is developing now but I wonder why not ask for ideas for how to create the game:S
Michael Brookes
Game Director
So it won't be at E3 so I hope it gets announced sometime this year
When is E3 2012?