Next gen console update for PS5 And Xbox???

tanner1ie · Jan 15, 2025

Lhorndra said:
Of course there is. It is called return on investment. Try to run a business for yourself one day, will you. A console port would cost so much more money than they would ever get back. Plus, the time being spent on this would not be available for anything else anymore. Also, they would have to support those ports from then on.

LOL.

We'd be paying for Odyssey and the "live" game on the "next gen" consoles! - We're not expecting it for free!

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The sales that a "next gen" version of Elite would generate would surely more than cover that investment!

Indeed I'm more shocked the more time that goes on that they haven't "returned" to console development" with Elite, as the studio continues to release other "next gen" titles, including several running on the same engine as Elite!

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"Build it" and "We" and the sales will come!

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Joesan66 · Jan 15, 2025

varonica said:
If there was a good reason to cancel then there was a good reason to cancel, it doesn't matter what that reason was, the end result would still leave us exactly where we are now, so I don't see the point of the point! They don't need to actually give us any reason at all, that's the entire point of them being the developer and us being the customers.

But there wasn't a good reason to cancel it.The reason they gave it to concentrate on fixing Oddesy for p.c. .Ff and it's safe to say it's "fixed for the most part . And the fact for no reason whatsoever, they go against there own word and release a paintjob on Legacy (both pc and console) ,further adding to the confusion, hence the continuous posts regarding this.

Joesan66 · Jan 15, 2025

tanner1ie said:
We'd be paying for Odyssey and the "live" game on the "next gen" consoles! - We're not expecting it for free! .

The sales that a "next gen" version of Elite would generate would surely more than cover that investment!

Indeed I'm more shocked the more time that goes on that they haven't "returned" to console development" with Elite, as the studio continues to release other "next gen" titles, including several running on the same engine as Elite! .

"Build it" and "We" and the sales will come! .

Unless they are and just Don't want to say anything until they Know it works ?

EdzUp · Jan 15, 2025

It was mentioned when development stalled years ago, unfortunately it was decided to freeze the console game where it stood and move forwards with PC only.

I still fire my Xbox ED up at times but tbh it's slowly getting more and more deserted

Geezy · Jan 15, 2025

EdzUp said:
It was mentioned when development stalled years ago, unfortunately it was decided to freeze the console game where it stood and move forwards with PC only.

I still fire my Xbox ED up at times but tbh it's slowly getting more and more deserted

Legacy on playstation is doing pretty good still. There's been a lot of activity lately

tanner1ie · Jan 15, 2025

Joesan66 said:
Unless they are and just Don't want to say anything until they Know it works ?

Fingers crossed!

But indeed surely it will "work" IF they "try" to release a "next gen" version of Elite!

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All we heard that was APPARENTLY Odyssey wasn't "good enough" on PS4 and or Xbox One, not that we ever saw the build or got to judge it for ourselves, TWO YEARS AGO!

It probably would have run fine for 95% of us, then or surely by now, "even" on "last gen"!

There was never any suggestion and we never heard that they "tried" to get Odyssey and 4.0 running on PS5 and Series X!...

It was only "It won't run well on "last gen" right now - let's cut and run and focus on PC!"

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But at this stage even IF they "only" released Odyssey and the "live" game for PS5 and Series X, most of us would be very happy with it and would come running back to it with our wallets open!

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Indeed it would be nice IF they'd release SOME new content, bug fixes and CGs etc for "legacy", on both PC and the "last gen" consoles, as I still much prefer playing with my Dualshock 4 on my PS4 over my barely used Dualsense controller on my PS5, but an actual "next gen" release for Elite would give me a massive reason to use my PS5 more or at all a lot of the time!

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thistle · Jan 15, 2025

Good grief.

ADAMtheWELSHMANz · Jan 16, 2025

Nice to see some consoles Cmdrs still have hope.

As hard as it was to quit playing after several thousands of hours on PS4 I cut ties permanently with Elite and all FDev products after been unceremoniously dumped. They dangled the Odyssey carrot to us for over a year, when in all likelihood the decision to drop console support had long ago been made.

Had they announced a delay, even a substantial one for consoles I think ppl would have waited, but at this time too many people have left, and left for good. Actions have consequences, and I'm sure FDev are well aware that I am far from the only Cmdr that will never touch one of their games again after what was done to us.

Dillon Fallon · Jan 16, 2025

Might have happened - if Odyssey hadn't been a financial write off on PC. FDev aren't going to burn their fingers twice on it.

tanner1ie · Jan 16, 2025

Dillon Fallon said:
Might have happened - if Odyssey hadn't been a financial write off on PC. FDev aren't going to burn their fingers twice on it.

It seems to be going well, as is 4.0 on PC right now, while it seems plenty people bought it there, as they surely would have on the consoles if they'd let us!

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WHEN did they say that the PC (and unfortunately only) version of the expansion was a write off, if ever?!

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Dillon Fallon · Jan 16, 2025

tanner1ie said:
It seems to be going well, as is 4.0 on PC right now, while it seems plenty people bought it there, as they surely would have on the consoles if they'd let us! ...

WHEN did they say that the PC (and unfortunately only) version of the expansion was a write off, if ever?! .

In their annual financial report a year or two back. It was well reported on this forum at the time.

tanner1ie · Jan 16, 2025

Dillon Fallon said:
In their annual financial report a year or two back. It was well reported on this forum at the time.

Ok, well that was then and this was now, when many more people have "next gen" consoles than a few years ago - it might and likely would sell better than it did there, in particular because they have starved us of fresh Elite content on consoles for so long!

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Dillon Fallon · Jan 16, 2025

tanner1ie said:
Ok, well that was then and this was now, when many more people have "next gen" consoles than a few years ago - it might and likely would sell better than it did there, in particular because they have starved us of fresh Elite content on consoles for so long! .

Well, if someone can come up with a pitch that would sell it to investors after a dramatic failure like that on PC, I'd genuinely love to know how they did it.

tanner1ie · Jan 16, 2025

Dillon Fallon said:
Well, if someone can come up with a pitch that would sell it to investors after a dramatic failure like that on PC, I'd genuinely love to know how they did it.

That sounds like a good plan!

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DjVortex · Jan 20, 2025

Given that apparently direct game sales are still the highest form of revenue from ED, it would make sense that they would port the latest Odyssey to the current-generation consoles. Surely that would boost sales? But for one reason or another they are set on not doing so, and have given zero indication that they will ever change their mind.

amigacooke · Jan 20, 2025

Frontier haven't always been so Windows centric

angusmadmac1 · Jan 20, 2025

amigacooke said:
Frontier haven't always been so Windows centric

That's always been my thoughts . Do for console and then it should work on PC and then you can optimise PC. But here we are 3 years down the line ??

varonica · Jan 21, 2025

angusmadmac1 said:
That's always been my thoughts . Do for console and then it should work on PC and then you can optimise PC. But here we are 3 years down the line ??

Usually happens the other way around though, console version level just gets ported to PC and that's how it stays. I suspect in this case FDEV wanted to have the consoles running the same quality as PC's instead of the PC's downgraded to console level.

Joesan66 · Jan 28, 2025

varonica said:
It's an entire game, the old game, Legacy, is not just the old Horizons minus Odyssey, everything is changed, it would be like porting an entire new game to console, if you think 5 devs tops is going to work when the entire dev team couldn't do it before, well dreams are free I suppose.

THEY did release an Oddesy compatibility update shortly before cancelation, soooo not as much work as you think

varonica · Jan 28, 2025

Joesan66 said:
THEY did release an Oddesy compatibility update shortly before cancelation, soooo not as much work as you think

They still have the old planetary generation technology, no atmospheric planets that rely on that feature, so yes a big update. That's why they are on 3.8 and not 4.0. There are posts years old talking about said compatibility update, so I wouldn't think they would be anywhere near similar considering the number of updates we have had since then. It was stated at the time it was a QOL update, so not an update to the base engine or anything like that, just little stuff shared between all platforms.