Good for you, I dare say there are people who bought and actually enjoyed Elder Scrolls Online. I didn't because I didn't want to play an online only elder scrolls game, I did beta test it as it happens which to their credit I was not charged for. Likewise I do not really want an online Elite game, I bought into Elite in large part because its developers had made a commitment to the principle of single player offline gaming. But so long as you have got your moneys worth it really doesn't matter if anyone else does I guess.
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Good for you, I dare say there are people who bought and actually enjoyed Elder Scrolls Online. I didn't because I didn't want to play an online only elder scrolls game, I did beta test it as it happens which to their credit I was not charged for. Likewise I do not really want an online Elite game, I bought into Elite in large part because its developers had made a commitment to the principle of single player offline gaming. But so long as you have got your moneys worth it really doesn't matter if anyone else does I guess.
Hmm, I may be the wrong person to be asking this as I'm an occassionaly gamer whose last forays into anything was WOW for some years. So in that respect I experienced some balancing and development of my class, but I can honestly say I was never 'bummed' by it. Equally, I never felt tied into the online only nature of it. I can't imagine playing Elite (or even WOW) on a train, so offline mode for anything isn't an issue for me.
But I will support other people's rights to be bummed by this stuff (or bear children), even if I have a different viewpoint.
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Here are a couple of articles from Develop Magazine when they interviewed DB some time ago.
It appears that DB has a bit of an obsession and hatred of the sale of second hand games claiming it is ruining the industry.
Could this be the real reason for the recent decision? Now taking into account the current mechanics of the game (no off line mode),
you will not be able to sell the game on if you want to because of the account information. So what is the point of spending extra money buying a boxed version of the game that has no resale value?
It seems like the days where you could just install a game on your pc from a dvd and play it off line are over.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/19/braben-second-hand-games-market-is-killing-single-player-titles/
http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/20/david-braben-proposes-six-fixes-for-used-game-sales/
p.s. I am still on the fence over whether to turn up on Saturday night for the party. I want DB & Co to make a proper statement in the news letter tomorrow.
Here are a couple of articles from Develop Magazine when they interviewed DB some time ago.
It appears that DB has a bit of an obsession and hatred of the sale of second hand games claiming it is ruining the industry.
Could this be the real reason for the recent decision? Now taking into account the current mechanics of the game (no off line mode),
you will not be able to sell the game on if you want to because of the account information. So what is the point of spending extra money buying a boxed version of the game that has no resale value?
It seems like the days where you could just install a game on your pc from a dvd and play it off line are over.
http://www.vg247.com/2012/03/19/braben-second-hand-games-market-is-killing-single-player-titles/
http://www.vg247.com/2010/10/20/david-braben-proposes-six-fixes-for-used-game-sales/
p.s. I am still on the fence over whether to turn up on Saturday night for the party. I want DB & Co to make a proper statement in the news letter tomorrow.
It is more than that. It's not a matter of "direction", and it's not a matter of the dropping of a "feature" (like losing multi-ship ownership or even something as cool as supercruise). Perhaps things are clearer if we substitute "lose offline" for "add a requirement".
The minimum specs print on a boxed game which includes "requires internet connection; internet service provider charges may apply", etc. are there for a reason.
Just a month before launch, while still vigorously seeking new early access buyers and promoting pre-orders at its online store, FD added a biggie to the minimum specs. I don't think "requires Windows 8.1" would go down well, for example.
Taken from an article in Eurogamer regarding this very issue. (source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...cry-over-elite-dangerous-ditched-offline-mode)
Now please people, but this to rest will you.
Oddball,
You should go and express your feelings. They need to see WHO is backing them, and WHY you supported them.
Anyway, I hope you have a great time.
Cutter
If you're afraid getting a bloody nose, don't fly through space an stay in bed. The online mode in my opinion is a great experience. You can avoid fights. And can't you escape from attacks? Or play SOLO (without morons)
Because some of us like to own physical copies and display them on a shelf. I mostly buy digital copies but if it's a game I really enjoy - like ED - then I'll buy a physical copy to keep. I don't care if it has a one-time activation code or the game won't work 5 years down the line.
And if you have the opportunity to attend the launch event then please still attend and make your feelings known. Don't be silent.
Playing devils advocate for a moment, yes this will work. But if this is not something you currently have or can support it could end up costing you another £10+ a month to either enable tethering with your ISP. Even more if you end up having to buy a Mi-Fi type box and a new contract to go with its SIM, effectively turning ED into a subscription based MMO in all but name.
If you are lucky enough to already support tethering perhaps giving it a go would be worth the time and see how Solo Online actually plays.
If you are lucky enough to already support tethering perhaps giving it a go would be worth the time and see how Solo Online actually plays.
Nice try! That article is today, not a few months ago. DB is just sidetracking the offline mode, and so are you.
Cutter
Sorry I dont get your point?
Where is that?
Did he attack his own character when he admitted he should have seen the difficulty in offline mode sooner? Of course not.
Even if when we choose to believe everything DB and the rest of FD say, that still means they already failed to achieve something they intended to achieve, and now they are asking us to trust that they will achieve this other, very similar task at some point in the future when they think their business may be running out. In other words, they are freely admitting that they failed to do one thing on time when they had plenty of time and money, but they are saying they will do something very similar further down the road when there's a time limit and no funds.
There is simply very little reason to believe that, entirely regardless of what you think of someone's "character".
Saying you don't believe someone who failed to jump four feet can succeed in jumping six feet facing the wind, running through mud and false teeth - isn't an attack on their character: It's a lack of trust in their ability.
To be honest, my problem is not with a possible future disaster.
I dont want/need another online game, I don't have the time to properly play the ones I am suscribed now.
I bought Elite because I wanted an offline game I can play when I dont have internet access and that I could pause at a moment notice and get back to later on.
And because I loved the original, I choose to pay more to help it getting build. And in exchange for that premium, I got to enjoy playing in the beta.
Good and great, but the main reason for my purchase was not beta access but the finished game, and I would not have bought it had I know it would be online-only.
It is not a great loss, and I will probably play online if infrequentely since refund was denied, but I got the unhappy feeling of having been had and I am not going to support FD in any future endeavour.
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I backed the Kickstarter and have been testing with Beta. A colleague of mine at work (who's done neither but interested in the final game) told me about the outrage of no single player. This was news to me.
I told him single player was in the game. Apparently not - it's all changed and I should read the latest announcement. I read the announcement.
Yep single player still there.
So what is it I'm missing? I don't understand all this rage - single player is there what's the big deal?
And for the record I get rage against games. I played through SWG from launch and suffered NGE so I get rage but this seems such a tiny and insignificant piece of detail to justify the extreme outpouring of emotions. I guess I'm out of touch but I can't understand it. I'll play Elite Dangerous online and if I don't fancy getting my ass fried I might seek the solace of solo play.
I told him single player was in the game. Apparently not - it's all changed and I should read the latest announcement. I read the announcement.
Yep single player still there.
So what is it I'm missing? I don't understand all this rage - single player is there what's the big deal?
And for the record I get rage against games. I played through SWG from launch and suffered NGE so I get rage but this seems such a tiny and insignificant piece of detail to justify the extreme outpouring of emotions. I guess I'm out of touch but I can't understand it. I'll play Elite Dangerous online and if I don't fancy getting my ass fried I might seek the solace of solo play.
i don't care for offline mode
online open play is the only right way to play this game
That is what you got, but most of use pledged solo on offline mode.
Cutter
Please, tell me how to reach this perfect world where you live where nobody every makes mistakes, it sounds wonderful.
It is entirely apparent that not everyone wants that. It's just too bad that people who are already getting what they want can be so demeaning to people who aren't.
there, fixed that for you
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