No Single Player offline Mode then?
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So when you bought the game did you also completely ignore the part where it said that some features might change or not be included?
Wasn't SC added because backers wanted it?
Did you think DB didn't want an OFFLINE mode?
What a ridiculously melodramatic explanation.
1) I don't care for one second whether you are, or aren't, convinced. You asked why, I told you why. What you do with the answer is for me totally irrelevant.
2) I enjoy the beta very much.
I can play online. Others can't.
And to take your OS point - FD promised ED for the Mac with a stretch goal. If they now turned around and said "no Mac version", that would be serious (even though obtaining a Windows PC is far easier for many that getting hold of reliable internet)
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Wonder how many people would choose from straw-man choices like this.
Bottom line is, Devs made the choices for probably good reasons. Question is, will they be polite enough to refund those for whom the promise of being able to play off-line was the main reason they bought the game?
It does seem strange why they are forcing this on players.
What harm would it be to let players play in a static universe if they so wish. Yeah it wont be half as good as online solo but thats got to be expected.
It has to be because either its DRM,
or it wont work offline, the game has to communicate with the server to function properly.
Not sure.
But Simcity did the exact same thing. Forced players online. Tried to convince everyone its better this way, would only work this way. Alot of players couldnt even play the game they paid for due to server issues. Spend a year of backlash and lost sales and bad press, to then make it work offline.
And now look at the state of that franchise.
I'm no dev but the example of Simcity should of been a lesson to everyone and is the last thing I would want to emulate.
What harm would it be to let players play in a static universe if they so wish. Yeah it wont be half as good as online solo but thats got to be expected.
It has to be because either its DRM,
or it wont work offline, the game has to communicate with the server to function properly.
Not sure.
But Simcity did the exact same thing. Forced players online. Tried to convince everyone its better this way, would only work this way. Alot of players couldnt even play the game they paid for due to server issues. Spend a year of backlash and lost sales and bad press, to then make it work offline.
And now look at the state of that franchise.
I'm no dev but the example of Simcity should of been a lesson to everyone and is the last thing I would want to emulate.
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That would be even worse, would mean that nobody outside of here is even interested in the game anymore.
No I don't believe that - I might if FD had said that was what was happening - but they haven't, so I don't.
I expect the 22nd will be fun - at the do - but I don't expect to be able to play that day - based on past experience of release days.
It's quite disappointing really.
Not having offline single player will seriously cut into the longevity of this game.
10 years from now FD could have already pulled he plug for whatever reasons that may arise, meaning the game is gone, not playable for anyone anymore.
Meanwhile, Elite 1,2,3 will still be around to be played forever.
It will also mean that the game will not be able to be modded, which is unfortunate.
Mods have been a big deal the last 5 years or so in making games very popular and to supplement games with labour intensive content too expensive for the developer to handle.
It's not good for the game to be missing that boat either.
Online only games won't be fondly remembered.
For example Diablo3 will one day be unplayable, while D1 and D2 will still be played.
And to think that plugs aren't pulled on games would be pretty naive.
Anyone remember Hellgate London?
A great game, the developer went broke though and the servers were pulled offline.
Things like this happen quite often to games that aren't backed by a big company with a lot of funds on hands.
Fortunately this game had a single player option, allowing me to reinstall the old game and play it again for old times sake.
And many years from now i will still be able to do the same.
Not so for ED unless they change this later on.
Another disappointment is the way FD communicated this to us.
While i'm sure people can understand certain reasoning why it could be difficult or impossible to implement, the way FD downplayed this issue as a footnote doesn't sit well.
The whole PR spin in the newsletter just sends up red flags everywhere.
Don't communicate to your costumers this way, tell them the truth in an honest way and don't regard them as gullible fools eating out of your hand.
It would show them the respect for backing the game which allows the devs to be employed and feed their families every day.
Talk to us from gamer to gamer and a lot of drama will be avoided.
Last disappointment seems to be some part of this community.
A very important feature has just been cut from the game and the message delivered to us in a questionable way.
Yet there's people here saying things along the lines of "I don't care about this feature, and if you do you're stupid".
Honestly, just because the feature isn't important to you, it doesn't mean it's not important to other people.
And don't mention things like 'vocal minority'. There's no way to know who is the majority or the minority.
Remember a lot of people on this forum are just lurkers.
2/3 of the people browsing the forums aren't even logged in or might not even have an account and browse as guests.
Not having offline single player will seriously cut into the longevity of this game.
10 years from now FD could have already pulled he plug for whatever reasons that may arise, meaning the game is gone, not playable for anyone anymore.
Meanwhile, Elite 1,2,3 will still be around to be played forever.
It will also mean that the game will not be able to be modded, which is unfortunate.
Mods have been a big deal the last 5 years or so in making games very popular and to supplement games with labour intensive content too expensive for the developer to handle.
It's not good for the game to be missing that boat either.
Online only games won't be fondly remembered.
For example Diablo3 will one day be unplayable, while D1 and D2 will still be played.
And to think that plugs aren't pulled on games would be pretty naive.
Anyone remember Hellgate London?
A great game, the developer went broke though and the servers were pulled offline.
Things like this happen quite often to games that aren't backed by a big company with a lot of funds on hands.
Fortunately this game had a single player option, allowing me to reinstall the old game and play it again for old times sake.
And many years from now i will still be able to do the same.
Not so for ED unless they change this later on.
Another disappointment is the way FD communicated this to us.
While i'm sure people can understand certain reasoning why it could be difficult or impossible to implement, the way FD downplayed this issue as a footnote doesn't sit well.
The whole PR spin in the newsletter just sends up red flags everywhere.
Don't communicate to your costumers this way, tell them the truth in an honest way and don't regard them as gullible fools eating out of your hand.
It would show them the respect for backing the game which allows the devs to be employed and feed their families every day.
Talk to us from gamer to gamer and a lot of drama will be avoided.
Last disappointment seems to be some part of this community.
A very important feature has just been cut from the game and the message delivered to us in a questionable way.
Yet there's people here saying things along the lines of "I don't care about this feature, and if you do you're stupid".
Honestly, just because the feature isn't important to you, it doesn't mean it's not important to other people.
And don't mention things like 'vocal minority'. There's no way to know who is the majority or the minority.
Remember a lot of people on this forum are just lurkers.
2/3 of the people browsing the forums aren't even logged in or might not even have an account and browse as guests.
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You do know that you can input your commander name in the backers app right?
That way you won't stay a number forever.
Sorry, this thread need a bit of humour every now and then.
Have you seen anyone continually trashing a game in this thread?
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Personally I was in the Offline camp but as the game has evolved it has become less important. Of course I would like an Offline mode as an insurance policy for if the servers ever went down but it's not like FDEV are planning to create a 5th incarnation of Elite and thereby plan to pull support for Elite: Dangerous. Frontier Developments was founded thanks to the Elite franchise (the company name even comes from the franchise). Elite: Dangerous can clearly be considered their flagship title and I fully expect it to still be going strong 10 years down the line and become a much richer experience than any of us can possibly dream of right now.
I genuinely feel bad for those who have an genuine reason to need Offline mode eg hospitalization, deployment or really flaky internet connection and I hope FDEV honours refunds if Offline mode is a genuine game breaker for you.
I genuinely feel bad for those who have an genuine reason to need Offline mode eg hospitalization, deployment or really flaky internet connection and I hope FDEV honours refunds if Offline mode is a genuine game breaker for you.
As I said in the other thread - https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=58838 - here is the tradeoff:
* you can now buy gold for 999 space bucks or 1000 space bucks depending on whether someone you can't see and don't care about is buying or selling gold
* you now have critical connection issues to the game and may not be able to play entirely
That's an awesome deal and I'm amazed that anyone could fail to see the upside to that.
Most would choose to get what was paid for. That option is removed, now it is:
- play online
- ask for a refund
You do know that you can input your commander name in the backers app right?
That way you won't stay a number forever.
Sorry, this thread need a bit of humour every now and then.
All good man, I myself was trying to imply that I was just a backer number
gravityztr
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but anyways, going to go play the beta.
big surprise ! woohoo ! the game will be online now
lol haha but dont care. its a funny surprise
big surprise ! woohoo !
the game will be online now lol haha but dont care. its a funny surprise
Alternately they could look for games offering offline options yes, like you know Elite dangerous was?
Good for you. I'm glad you have so many choices. I can choose Time Warner Cable, or DSL over a 4 wire phone line. I'm not asking anyone to compromise their gaming, but you guys just cant seem to get past that can you.
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