No Single Player offline Mode then?
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You single-handedly reject every person's grievance in this thread based on the following statement: "I know at least several people who play on regular basis on shady connections. Solo online is really usable for majority of people"
Are you omnipresent and omniscient?
Once again: "some few thousand people will try to get refund. Few hundred will get it.". Are you trolling or pushing some agenda? Why do you have a vested interest in swamping people's legitimate grievances with these ridiculous all encompassing generalisations and predictions?
You are either sincerely misguided, trolling or taking a political approach to your thread posting.
I'll say it again; those of you making up lies, using rhetoric, amusing yourselves at the expense of others, or just clueless about how the real world works, need to take a breather and leave this thread until you decide that logic, rationale and some sort of empathy will be guides for how respond in this thread.
The real reason so many of you are expressing so much happiness in others misfortune is that this decision doesn't effect you. But one day, FD are going to pull the exact same stunt in some form or another, if you think that you are somehow exempt because of your special golden sunflower status, then you are living on the banks of De Nile.
See what I did there? But my sweeping generalisation actually contains some truth, think about it before you go frothing at the mouth coming to FD's defense.
And this on the kickstarter page, answering some DRM-related potential issues (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous/posts/376335?cursor=1998331#comment-1998330):
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Problem is game is still in development and Michael said yesterday that they still looking for things how to make solo online less prone to shady connections. Online is getting better btw, it rarely hits 30k/sec now, when no one around those are few kB in sec.
Along with the "You're not going to get the 25 ships we promised you for launch. You're going to get 30 ships! But really, you're still not getting 25 at launch.".
Yes, and that second part of message is meant that they have unofficial pledge to give out server software in case they decide to stop ED project. Context matters.
I knew there would never be an offline mode. Right from the beginning, I knew it. It seemed like they were just saying it to get people to back it. And I also knew the semantic argument of "needing to log in to a server is not DRM" argument would be used as soon as I saw the words "DRM-Free" in the Kickstarter.
So I'm not surprised. But I'm most disappointed in how they waited until the last minute to tell people, when it was obviously never on the agenda. And even then they weren't really up front. They used murky placating language to cover up what they did. Really disappointing, and I'm tempted to ask for a refund on principle.
So I'm not surprised. But I'm most disappointed in how they waited until the last minute to tell people, when it was obviously never on the agenda. And even then they weren't really up front. They used murky placating language to cover up what they did. Really disappointing, and I'm tempted to ask for a refund on principle.
I'll just leave this here...
Yep - all evidence is based on this one post. Not a promise though was it.
So at the time David said this (and as I have said before I can't speak for the man) he believed it was true.
He just announced that it is no longer viable due to the way development has progressed. You heard it from him the same as the rest of us.
I'm sure he wishes he has a time machine to go back and undo that post though.
For those wanting a refund or feel that they've been lied to, cheated, mid-sold please approach frontier directly, for the rest lets get back to beta testing, this has gone on long enough and shows how important people feel they have become as individuals, this has actually become very entertaining and if I was a psychology student I would probably use these forums right now for a dissertation.
As for those who say "but I work away from home many weeks of the year" get over it I saw my family 21 days last year, "I have a bad internet connection" guess what that's not frontier's issue.
This constant public bickering and complaining is why we cannot have anything nice, sympathy given at the announcement time? Some. Sympathy given now? None, I thought I worked with petulant children at work, then I read through some of the posts here.
Some of the posters need to take a look at their state of mind I feel, but that's just an uneducated opinion.
As for those who say "but I work away from home many weeks of the year" get over it I saw my family 21 days last year, "I have a bad internet connection" guess what that's not frontier's issue.
This constant public bickering and complaining is why we cannot have anything nice, sympathy given at the announcement time? Some. Sympathy given now? None, I thought I worked with petulant children at work, then I read through some of the posts here.
Some of the posters need to take a look at their state of mind I feel, but that's just an uneducated opinion.
Thus proving that it's not a technical impossibility, which makes my hope for some holiday space exploration a bit stronger. Now, if they could just do it fast, so that we can all enjoy the game as we respectively planned to enjoy it at its inception, that would be great.
Now who's reading a bit much into it. The training missions are just that. Training missions, not an offline game. They are severely limited.
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It's not technically impossible. Michael clearly stated that they won't give out server software (before finish of ED project for all times) for game being heavy bent on exploration and galaxy containing all secrets in server data.
Hehe. Except that it feels more like:
Customer: May I have the beef dinner but without the onions or garlic sauce as I'm allergic to them. I can't eat here if you can't do this.
Waiter: I'll just go and ask the chef...
[Waiter goes and asks the chef and returns]
Waiter: Yes Sir. I've asked the chef and we can do that for you.
Customer: Thank-you. Most excellent service.
[time passes... waiter passes by]
Waiter: Your special meal without onions and garlic sauce will be with you shortly Sir.
[more time passes, the waiter turns up with the meal.]
Waiter: Here's your meal Sir. We changed it to garlic beef with an onion dressing for you, as it's far better and the chef said that he couldn't do anything without garlic. It was a difficult decision for us to make. But if you don't like it, the door is this way.
Waiter: I'll just go and ask the chef...
[Waiter goes and asks the chef and returns]
Waiter: Yes Sir. I've asked the chef and we can do that for you.
Customer: Thank-you. Most excellent service.
[time passes... waiter passes by]
Waiter: Your special meal without onions and garlic sauce will be with you shortly Sir.
[more time passes, the waiter turns up with the meal.]
Waiter: Here's your meal Sir. We changed it to garlic beef with an onion dressing for you, as it's far better and the chef said that he couldn't do anything without garlic. It was a difficult decision for us to make. But if you don't like it, the door is this way.
This is why people are upset.
Who gives a damn?! They were unequivocal positive response to the the very direct request of whether there would be an offline mode! No ifs, buts or maybes. The most galling thing is leaving it until the eleventh hour to announce that this will not happen. I do not believe FD, not even for a second, that they did not know until now that they would not deliver offline play.
Honestly, your unceasing blind support for FD aside, I don't even know why you're bothering with this thread... people are peeved and you will not change their minds - all you're doing is perpetuating the conversation and probably making people even more peeved with your casual dismissals.
Those are two separate statements. "It will be playable without server connections" and "we will make it playable if the servers shut down". How does the second statement change the first? In fact the second statement is really kind of irrelevant if he was telling the truth here. But it sounds like he's just covering bases.
Your analogy falls short because your customer WANTED features removed but got the full product
I see this as FD allowing people to vent off steam here and if they bury their heads in the sands for long enough, the problem here will just go away, eventually everyone will just forget about it and they'll do what they planned to do all along.
FB, I think you've opened the digital version of "Pandora's Box"
I think they may have vastly underestimated the will of the people. These people after all are the ones who're paying their wages and like I said before, upset enough of them and they'll vote with their feet.
FB, I think you've opened the digital version of "Pandora's Box"
I think they may have vastly underestimated the will of the people. These people after all are the ones who're paying their wages and like I said before, upset enough of them and they'll vote with their feet.
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