No Single Player offline Mode then?

[sbdags]

The Mods are volunteers, not FD staff members. That's not going to change regardless of how many times you and others state that they are FD Staff. They have no special insight or corporate access do they?

No, (having been a mod myself on another large forum) and you also can't speak for the company as you are not part of the decision making process. Often you don't know much more than the official website.

It's clear here that the mods were not aware of the contents of the newsletter - that should have been handled a bit better as well.

 

[DhuAlan]

But thats the point .. You cant ask for a refund simply because you don't like on-line only games ... IF you LITERALLY cant play the game without offline then that's fair enough.

An offline version may have been a (small) touted feature, but it was pretty obvious from the start that this would be an online game.

And this isnt me defending FD , I am going to the premiere on Saturday, and if I get the chance I will be bringing this up with the senior staff. I have also sent a PM directly to Michael over this issue. As a shareholder I feel its my duty to make them aware (although I am sure they) about the feeling overs this, and that something needs to be communicated.


Of course if you reply in away in this thread that certain people dont like suddenly your defending FD to the hilt, which is very much not the case.

I understand its not you defending FD, it's you expressing your views as I am expressing mine. The fact of the matter is for me, I would not be having this discussion with you and others here now if offline was not a feature. I may not be entitled to refund may be I will, but as the refund policy is on a case by case basis it is appears as murky as the sales pitch.

As I said I'm considering my options, but I'm definately more than a bit disappointed in this 11th hour change, as I'm sure you would be too if one of the features got pulled that was the primary one for your purchase.

 

[Driver]

Solo Offline was one of the selling points for me as well. While I have currently have a decent internet connection; that may not always be the case. I would also have wanted to be able to play ED after the servers went offline.

It is disappointing that FD chose to delay telling us about this missing feature until now.

KS Backers who wanted the Solo Offline mode should be offered full refunds.

 

[Vlodec]

Wha the 180 page thread does illustrate is that FD should really work on their PR and communication.

Amen to that.

 

[Riktar]

But thats the point .. You cant ask for a refund simply because you don't like on-line only games ... IF you LITERALLY cant play the game without offline then that's fair enough.

An offline version may have been a (small) touted feature, but it was pretty obvious from the start that this would be an online game.

And this isnt me defending FD , I am going to the premiere on Saturday, and if I get the chance I will be bringing this up with the senior staff. I have also sent a PM directly to Michael over this issue. As a shareholder I feel its my duty to make them aware (although I am sure they) about the feeling overs this, and that something needs to be communicated.


Of course if you reply in away in this thread that certain people dont like suddenly your defending FD to the hilt, which is very much not the case.

And whoever is working PR for Frontier had a serious lapse in judgement when they sanctioned this kind of statement so close to a public coming out party.

If you think the developers have been working long hours, consider the whole marketing department going without sleep until they come up with a way to resolve this before the event!!!!

 

[sbdags]

I understand peoples frustration with the decision, I understand it means some people will not be able to play the game as a result. Is it better to have a new Elite game or not? Is it better that FD flesh out the existing game or spend that resource on building ED offline with its limited subset of features? At some point we all need to stop, take a deep breath and find a way forward for the good of the game as a whole? The longer this goes on the more likely it is that the negativity is reflected in the press and casts a deep, dark shadow over the launch and possibly the longevity of ED.

I agree but I think the damage has now been done. Including members of this community deliberately threatening to make things worse...

 

[littleminxundr]

Well to turn the argument around, have you actually tried playing the game in Solo mode for any length? Does it work? Im not defending anything other than common sense here because as per usual its completely gone out of the window.

you want a refund? Fine get on with it, leave the forums for the people that can play the game before you ruin it for the rest of us, and more than likely ruin FD as a company. There is a quite a lot at stake here, and people need to put it into a little more perspective than they currently are. Next there will be people organising some sort of rally to march on FD's offices ...

Its a video game , get some perspective in life ...

Actually, I can play both modes just fine. Not a care in the world. I can even download 7 torrents in the background and have about 12 websites open. My rig and internet is that good. In fact, I have yet to find a CPU-load that brings the whole shebang to it's knees. No joy yet. The power of building your box yourself. Have I told you guys already I'm a nerdgirl? I bet I did somewhere, at least. (Sorry for the boasting, but is it boasting when it is true?)

Why I want offline I have explained in this thread. Honestly, attacking me is quite pointless. My reasons are pure.

 

[stimutacs]

Wha the 180 page thread does illustrate is that FD should really work on their PR and communication.

Also I have to say the way they have consistently failed to advance any upside whatsoever is really strange. The only positive part I can see so far - and I've been looking - is that it's sold as a change that will let the game shed its limitations. But don't worry guys with poor connects to Ireland AWS, honest, you only need it to update prices in the market and on stations. So basically I am getting a game that will either not work, or work poorly, because someone wants the price of gold to change accurately, based on the actions of people I can't see and events I can't change? This is the upside?


...

...

Seriously? For realz?

 

[CMDR Byrt Makklin]

I understand peoples frustration with the decision, I understand it means some people will not be able to play the game as a result. Is it better to have a new Elite game or not? Is it better that FD flesh out the existing game or spend that resource on building ED offline with its limited subset of features? At some point we all need to stop, take a deep breath and find a way forward for the good of the game as a whole? The longer this goes on the more likely it is that the negativity is reflected in the press and casts a deep, dark shadow over the launch and possibly the longevity of ED.

SHHHHH! Everyone who's annoyed! The press might find out and then FD will be in trouble and the game will fold and the people who can play the game won't be able to because the servers will be closed! And then they'll know how those who wanted offline and didn't get it feel like... which would be ... ummm... like getting your game unfairly taken away from you?

 

[PIXEL]

And due of Kickstarter nature some things announced doesn't make final cut. That's life.

You just don't get it do you Mr Pecisk ?
There are many people who bought into this game because there was an offline option and many others did the same since the kickstarter finished - how can you deny this.

Please get off your very tall horse, which I doubt is named "Empathy" and get down to the level which there are many upset about losing something they wanted/needed and were encouraged to part cash for.

 

[Jason S]

I don't get this, dear countryman. What is it about solo online that is in any way different for you? Heck, what do time constraints have got to do with even playing in the open. It's not WoW where you are doing raids with the clan.

You simply have no understanding.

 

[sbdags]

And whoever is working PR for Frontier had a serious lapse in judgement when they sanctioned this kind of statement so close to a public coming out party.

If you think the developers have been working long hours, consider the whole marketing department going without sleep until they come up with a way to resolve this before the event!!!!

It's going to be an interesting twitch feed of the live event that is for sure

 

[mbpoblet]

I am not defending anyone. FD made mistake promising that feature, period. I have said this many times, they should have stuck with original vision. But that's all I will say. Everything else is blown up out of proportions anyway.

If they hadn't promised it the kickstarter might very well not have succeeded; it looked like it was stalling and wouldn't make the goal, until they started clarifying the availability of an offline mode.

 

[OriginalBadBoy]

When my wife or daughter ask me to do something when I'm delivering a precious cargo to somewhere and am in a dogfight defending the said cargo, I'd like to pause the game and go to them, rather than tell them that "no, just wait with that disaster while I play this game." And, yes, those calls do happen frequently when you have a kid.

Moreover, my kid wants to sit on my lap while I play and then get off my lap etc. I need to pause my action games in order to not get killed all the time.

So what you do .. like most people with kids is play games when they have gone to bed ...

Don't take this the wrong way I understand the argument for an offline version in that situation, but in the end, generally having kids and playing video games never works (unless its a Wii).

And to be frank FD cannot be held accountable for YOUR personal circumstances, or anybody elses for that matter, as I have stated previously I spend three nights a week in a hotel , every week. There wouldnt be any point in me trying to play ED at that time. Would an offline version help? Yes maybe, but its not the end of the world, I just do other stuff instead, and then play ED at home when I can.

Your situation is no different, an offline version would help, but the fact that there isnt one does not completely kill the game for you.

 

[Skeloton]

You simply have no understanding.

Ah the Picard Facepalm, I believe it is second only to the facepalm of Jesus.

 

[Ian Phillips]

Fellow forum members..... please do not make personal comments about other forums members. These are against the forum rules. Comment on the post, not the poster.

 

[Riktar]

It's going to be an interesting twitch feed of the live event that is for sure

And I will most definitely for sure be tuning in,,,,,

 

[stimutacs]

If they hadn't promised it the kickstarter might very well not have succeeded; it looked like it was stalling and wouldn't make the goal, until they started clarifying the availability of an offline mode.

Whoa, good catch there. Actually I remember reading that at the time. You know GAF's thread on this was originally

David Braben is totally failing to kickstart Elite

and then ... promises!

 

[littleminxundr]

I understand peoples frustration with the decision, I understand it means some people will not be able to play the game as a result. Is it better to have a new Elite game or not? Is it better that FD flesh out the existing game or spend that resource on building ED offline with its limited subset of features? At some point we all need to stop, take a deep breath and find a way forward for the good of the game as a whole? The longer this goes on the more likely it is that the negativity is reflected in the press and casts a deep, dark shadow over the launch and possibly the longevity of ED.

Yes it is better to have a new Elite. One without an expiry date.

 

[Adept]

When my wife or daughter ask me to do something when I'm delivering a precious cargo to somewhere and am in a dogfight defending the said cargo, I'd like to pause the game and go to them, rather than tell them that "no, just wait with that disaster while I play this game." And, yes, those calls do happen frequently when you have a kid.

Moreover, my kid wants to sit on my lap while I play and then get off my lap etc. I need to pause my action games in order to not get killed all the time.

Ah. Thanks for the clarification.

All I can say to this is that my old squadron mate flew an interceptor in Allegiance with a baby on his lap

I understand limited free time just fine. I'm currently having trouble finding time to fly even once per week. Still, solo games are what they are, and one should be able to play when te baby is asleep. Parents need to take time to have a private life as well. Hopefully your partner also manages to do some not-baby-related things.

Good luck though, and congratulations.