lol, if only!
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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lol, if only!
I really don't get the anger here, I understand the disappointment, but not the fury, the malicious comments and the threats.
People are acting like Frontier DELIBERATELY mislead them to steal their money, Frontier wanted to provide a fully offline option, they said so from the start, and I'm sure that they looked into every conceivable way of making it viable, time spent I may add which in the run up to launch was very developmentally precious.
I fully imagine Frontier are equally disappointed that they where unable to find a solution and despite knowing that there would be a backlash, opted to inform the community now, prior to launch.
The last few weeks leading up to the launch of a game is a very delicate time PR wise, Frontier know this and yet still choose to divulge this bombshell knowing it was likely going to impact on their sales.
I for one applaud that honesty!
The behaviour of some people in this thread is shocking, the abuse, vitrio and use of threats are an embarrassment to this communities usual adult behaviour.
I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'd like to point it out here, people have accused Frontier of not caring and of deceit, yet look at Mr Michael Brookes's comments history page: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/search.php?searchid=283379
..you will see nearly three pages of comments, all posted on a Saturday I may add, all devoted to calmly explaining how this unfortunate conclusion was arrived at and why, in many cases his comments where met with abuse, yet despite this he continued to devoted his day off to being open and honest with us all.
That to me is not the behaviour of a company who does not care or one who's goal was one of deceit.
People are acting like Frontier DELIBERATELY mislead them to steal their money, Frontier wanted to provide a fully offline option, they said so from the start, and I'm sure that they looked into every conceivable way of making it viable, time spent I may add which in the run up to launch was very developmentally precious.
I fully imagine Frontier are equally disappointed that they where unable to find a solution and despite knowing that there would be a backlash, opted to inform the community now, prior to launch.
The last few weeks leading up to the launch of a game is a very delicate time PR wise, Frontier know this and yet still choose to divulge this bombshell knowing it was likely going to impact on their sales.
I for one applaud that honesty!
The behaviour of some people in this thread is shocking, the abuse, vitrio and use of threats are an embarrassment to this communities usual adult behaviour.
I've mentioned this in another thread, but I'd like to point it out here, people have accused Frontier of not caring and of deceit, yet look at Mr Michael Brookes's comments history page: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/search.php?searchid=283379
..you will see nearly three pages of comments, all posted on a Saturday I may add, all devoted to calmly explaining how this unfortunate conclusion was arrived at and why, in many cases his comments where met with abuse, yet despite this he continued to devoted his day off to being open and honest with us all.
That to me is not the behaviour of a company who does not care or one who's goal was one of deceit.
You don't understand. At all. It's not about access to Internet, it's about access to Elite game servers, which may or may not exist when those of us who paid for the game want to play 4-5 years or more down the line, perhaps not even that far into the future.
That's the complaint in a nutshell. The person who responded to you only replied to your half-baked conceptualization of the issue. I've attempted to provide a more full realization of the inherent problem of ED lacking an offline mode.
At first I agreed with Braben's decision to cut it, assuming that if they really delivered on dynamic ingame events (which they haven't yet), created an evolving game world (which they haven't yet), and so on and so forth, then playing online would be the only way to fully enjoy the game. Now I'm not so certain I'll even be able to see my Sidewinder in a couple years.
Sorry for any hostility you may have picked up. Your sarcastic retorts to a strawmanned argument that you constructed were getting a bit annoying, however.
problem is not what they posted AFTER the news, but what they did NOT say BEFORE.
there are loads and loads of reasons yet people still jump in and talk...just load 2 pages back and take a read PLEASE
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When a child steals something and when asked tell the truth, you have to reward their honesty, but it is just as important to discipline the stealing, maybe more so.
Unfortunately, there are many here who are saying just that. That is the disheartening part.
Well it seems that you can't have it which is sad (I'd like it too).
Situations change. I expect you weren't born yesterday so you're aware of this element of life.
You said you're getting a refund so get it and life goes on.
What's the point of staying around spewing vitriol all over the forums?
Very well said rep in-bound.
People act as though FD wanted to release this information a week before the premier event and annoy this "offine gamer" crowd for evil reasons.
Obviously they didn't want to annoy anyone and they could have waiting a few more weeks and not told us till the 16th. Such reasoning seems to escape some people.
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Thanks for your response. That makes sense. I haven´t noticed censoring either. Just wondered what he meant.
we are still waiting for an actual response on the matter that is something diffrent from : "open a ticket and we'll see"
Oh, now you have done it. More power to Shields.
I have heard this argument repetitively for hundreds of pages as well as watching nausea inducing youtube video's about it.
Sorry but the idea that hackers, mods and you deserve the right to the intellectual property of the Dev team, DB etc is not a valid reason or excuse for all of this ranting.
No they do want to pass over their intellectual property to every tom and harry that wishes to mod it or pirate it over night and put it on a torrent site and that is -in my opinion- a very good idea and representative of the modern gaming world.
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if they really did not want to annoy anyone they could:
1: Tell it before
2: Announce it PROPERLY and not in a hideous newsletter full of "upgrade your beta here!" "buy there!" newsletter
3: Discuss the matter in the thread with backers first
4: Give us at LEAST some reason other than "we did not want to spoil the secrets of the galaxy"
Well, that's good that you couldn't care less about offline. In which case it doesn't effect you, but try to understand that it does effect others. Even if that effect is just that they wanted an offline game that they can play on their own which isn't internet connected, or that they want a version that will be as long lasting as the 3 Elites before it, that they'll be able to play long after the ED servers have been taken down.
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Some of it is nostalga, some of it is preference, and some of it is genuine need. Yes there have been knee-jerk responses with some claiming instant refunds without really thinking it through first. I think they should've waited to see what further announcement FD made on it before acting. And as for haters. I feel there have been such people on both sides of this argument. Don't you feel they've done damage as well?
I've played a heck of lot of games in my time and they've all been solo offline games. I've never played an MMO. However this is the FIRST online-only game that has caught my eye. Frontier have 110% of my support and I sincerely thank them for making this great game.
I think part of the problem is that people think that Kickstarter = The Game the Way I Want It. The reality is that you are simply backing developers to make the game they want to make. Yes, the developers can listen to their paying audience and make changes but it's still their game. If they want to change things then that's the risk you took backing them. Kickstarter is not about buying games, it's about risk.
I still can't believe people think they can simulate the galaxy, along with its complex economy and events, on their own computer at home and play on it at the same time. I think the galaxy has gone mad!
I think part of the problem is that people think that Kickstarter = The Game the Way I Want It. The reality is that you are simply backing developers to make the game they want to make. Yes, the developers can listen to their paying audience and make changes but it's still their game. If they want to change things then that's the risk you took backing them. Kickstarter is not about buying games, it's about risk.
I still can't believe people think they can simulate the galaxy, along with its complex economy and events, on their own computer at home and play on it at the same time. I think the galaxy has gone mad!
But they did it quite successfully with the first 3 games. Offline players aren't asking for the same galaxy as the online one. It's been stated by those that want offline that a closed, static galaxy, different from the one online will be perfectly acceptable.
Had it occurred to you that the reason it had not been announced until now was that they where still desperately attempting to find a way to get it to work, surely you can't imagine Frontier WANTED to drop a bombshell like this in the weeks leading up to launch and risk a PR nightmare.
I would bet that the lack of ships and features is in part down to the amount of development time being spent to find a solution which would allow offline or semi offline gameplay
The original Elite just called, it would like to discuss it's galaxy, economy and so forth with you. So would the X series. So would the simcity series. So would Limit Theory. Shall I go on?
Honestly, this is starting to get silly, people seem to have taken leave of their senses or replaced their brains with cottage cheese and pineapple. Simply take a look at just about any recent sim game and you'll find they're infinitely complex and subtle. Hell, Banished is a perfect example of the interplay of multiple complex and discrete simulations at work. Really, try to at least think before you post.
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Balls. As a seafarer who works away from home for three months at a time without any internet connection, that's seriously knackered my experience. I'll still play it in my three months at home, but damn, I wanted that at sea. It's not like I can even play solo and update when I'm in port, if the initial log in screen remains the same as the beta. Oh well, back to Oolite.
326 pages?I've missed quite the crapstorm.My solidarity to those who bought the game and wanted to play offline.
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