Whilst simultaneously creating a ridiculous strain on the development team as they try to figure out a way of getting all the shared online information into the offline version of the game. This would likely take a lot of time away from developing the rest of the game for the people who are more than happy to not have an offline mode. How is it in any way fair to devote time and resources to pleasing a minority of the customers whose contention in absolutely no way prevents them from playing the game?
No Single Player offline Mode then?
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Whilst simultaneously creating a ridiculous strain on the development team as they try to figure out a way of getting all the shared online information into the offline version of the game. This would likely take a lot of time away from developing the rest of the game for the people who are more than happy to not have an offline mode. How is it in any way fair to devote time and resources to pleasing a minority of the customers whose contention in absolutely no way prevents them from playing the game?
I, I, I, I...yea we get it you want a lot of things, some of which even go against the original design mechanics of the game.
If you are only thinking of yourself then yes go ahead and continue complaining about a feature that if added will hurt the overall project and give you an old fashioned and stale offline one player experience.
Don't expect any change on the decision tho, just in case you thought repeating the same mantra over and over might make a difference i'd suggest reading the FD posts on why this change was made first.
I never said I was happy with the situation either - I think I've been very open and honest in saying I think Frontier mis-communicated this completely - like other said, they dropped the ball.
But unlike others here I look at their decision, take stock and see it as a jumping point to move on to a much better game where Frontier can focus their resources to make the best online game possible, not two half-baked different games.
I've certainly not read all 5000+ posts in this thread - but essentially what I see is a general crying about Frontier removing the offline mode option .... is it REALLY that big of a deal? Sure if you don't have any internet I can understand - but for those complaining even when they do have internet - I really don't see the point other than you're complaining for the sake of complaining.
Sure it's just like other less-favourable companies have done, but I believe Frontier have not made this decision lightly and I have faith in that they know what they are doing and talking about.
Solo online mode doesn't take much bandwidth so just go with that and stop complainingAnd for those without broadband - sorry - not sure what you can do.
yes it is, because people are in the forces (?!?!?!) or they have children and it's VERY IMPORANT for them that they have access to this game whenever they want and not just when the internet allows them to
but really though i've been told on this thread that people are on deployment fighting for my country and that is in someway relevant to why a videogame should have an offline mode
the nutters are out in force
Anyone remember the disastrous launch of Xbox ONE and what happened to “always online” in the final product?
It was also “impossible” to remove but somehow in a few weeks time the dev team made it possible again.
I really hope ED comes to reason and do the same or else they will get so much bad will by previously a really dedicated, and also laud, fan base!
It was also “impossible” to remove but somehow in a few weeks time the dev team made it possible again.
I really hope ED comes to reason and do the same or else they will get so much bad will by previously a really dedicated, and also laud, fan base!
Like some kind of mode which blocks online, some kind of 'offline' mode. I think I'll suggest it myself. Thanks!
I am sure you did the right thing parking in "a safe secluded area"
this would be good thing for all commanders to do when needing to make drinks/dinner/having a party/ leave those ships parked in a nice safe place like a space station, that is all.
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In the end, I think it is better to have one great online only game, rather than a mediocre game which can be also played offline. I still want an offline version though...
Hence why I said I didn't read them all - I suspect there are some valid reasons beyond not having an internet connection - but I also suspect that to be in the very small minority? Much like having broadband connection.
I was just giving an opinion, I am not affected at all for this issue, actually I paid $350 USD for online game not an offline bored game.
And finally may I suggest you (and quite a few others) to stop telling people how to run their lives !
This thread is getting ridiculous and bringing some odd folk out of a very dark bunker
Hereby unsubscribed - over and out.
I think this is crux of this case. Situation sucks and FD earns every hit because of mistakes during KS. However it doesn't mean it has to end like this. Let's improve case.
If you want your kid play ED but don't want to access internet? See FD to hear this so they can implement parental controls. Worried about future of the game? Let's get FD to pledge server software in case they shut project down.
Sorry man...it an discussion between Gamers which right now in such good mood....maybe better ask Frontier Development about an Interview.....just only my 2 cent
IMO the announcement timing is suspect...
The timing of this no offline announcement seems to me to be suspect. Leaving the announcement for so long, you cannot tell me that it has taken them all this time to realise, "Damn! You know what? Offline just aint going to work! We'll need to ditch that promise." is just ridiculous. There are potentially positive financial incentives for leaving the announcement till this late in the development.
Think about it like this;
As you can see, at some point the post-Kickstarter sales will reach a point where they will more than cover any potential losses from refunds. Any person worth their salt going into business (especially when managing multi-million currency budgets) will have done the financial projections and estimations for everything I've mentioned here. This stuff isn't fantasy... Whether or not the plan was intentional from the beginning or it just became a cost of doing business for them, only they can say for sure.
NOTE: Before Anyone replies to this post and flames me for never having posted on the forums or being a noob or that you like the game being online so I can sod off or some other childish rubbish. Know that I have paid almost £200 toward the Elite Dangerous project and *that* gives me the right to post whatever criticism I wish.
I will be considering the situation carefully and possibly exploring my legal options for refund as a key reason for my pledging to this project was the desire to play Elite offline. Others may be happy with the decision that has been made and I am happy for you. For me it is a clear breach of the trust I placed in the developers and that is not acceptable. I have yet to decide what action I intend to take.
The timing of this no offline announcement seems to me to be suspect. Leaving the announcement for so long, you cannot tell me that it has taken them all this time to realise, "Damn! You know what? Offline just aint going to work! We'll need to ditch that promise." is just ridiculous. There are potentially positive financial incentives for leaving the announcement till this late in the development.
Think about it like this;
- Devs want to make a game but have no money.
- Business planning... Including estimating the number of people you expect to fund the project and amount of money you might lose (£Z) if you drop promised features.
- Kickstart the game and tell people all the cool stuff that will be in it (including features you don't know or think will be possible).
- Clear £X of Kickstarter funding.
- Use the Kickstarter funds to begin development.
- Identify what features you might need to drop.
- Start selling other things; early access, lifetime passes, paint jobs, ships etc.
- Begin receiving additional funds from post-Kickstarter sales. £Y income is generated.
- Determine that; (X + Y) - Z = enough money to be financially successful.
- Announce the key features that will not be in the final product.
- Refund requests that you must by law fulfil.. Ignore/deny any you aren't under legal requirement to fulfil.
- Release financially successful game and let the storm blow over.
As you can see, at some point the post-Kickstarter sales will reach a point where they will more than cover any potential losses from refunds. Any person worth their salt going into business (especially when managing multi-million currency budgets) will have done the financial projections and estimations for everything I've mentioned here. This stuff isn't fantasy... Whether or not the plan was intentional from the beginning or it just became a cost of doing business for them, only they can say for sure.
NOTE: Before Anyone replies to this post and flames me for never having posted on the forums or being a noob or that you like the game being online so I can sod off or some other childish rubbish. Know that I have paid almost £200 toward the Elite Dangerous project and *that* gives me the right to post whatever criticism I wish.
I will be considering the situation carefully and possibly exploring my legal options for refund as a key reason for my pledging to this project was the desire to play Elite offline. Others may be happy with the decision that has been made and I am happy for you. For me it is a clear breach of the trust I placed in the developers and that is not acceptable. I have yet to decide what action I intend to take.
Firstly i'd suggest you make sure you know the facts. Single player is NOT being dropped.
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To a degree I agree with you. If they'd announced it in a better way, apologised to those affected and offered a full, unconditional refund to the few (according to many here it's only a vocal few) affected then it would have been a shame... but a respectful and decent way to deal with it... then move on with the bigger and better online only game.
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