No Single Player offline Mode then?

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Ok then you should know that a game like ED has already gained a complexity that would not be developed over a weekend like you seem to represent it.
I developed computer games in our company, for PC games and for mobile phones and we used procedural techniques as well as scripting, we wrote our own graphics engine and AI engine. I also worked several years in QA, release management/change management for big companies. Currently I am team lead of a team for load testing & test automation for very big projects. So I worked in several small as well as very big projects..
And I think I am able to estiamte if I am looking at an easy project or a difficult one.

The difficulty comes together with the complexity. If you are developing a small game, you only need a simple design, simple specifications, perhaps a handful of people.
However when the complexity of your product increases you need plenty of people for filling up roles you never had the necessity before.
Now you need to control/manage your teams and this increases the complexity of your business from another side.

I wouldn't compare a small game that includes some procedual elements with a project like ED.
Just take a look in the DDF to get a smell of the complexity of the specifications we had worked on.

That's nice. I was one of the Tier 3 nix admins for the London Internet Exchange. I'll just leave that and you can work out the kind of workload that entails. Understand, in the world I used to live in before my immune system got messed up, a minute of unplanned downtime triggered Service Level Agreement penalties into the high seven digits on some clients. Now we're done comparing epeens, can we get back on topic? :D

I still stand by what I said, people deserve a better explanation than what's been given at this point.
 
and give as much detail about your circumstancies as possible.

Really?

Why does he have to give any details at all? It's none of Frontier's business I would have thought. If he's in the UK, the "Distance Selling Regulations 2000" allow him to request a refund without giving a reason.

Pretty sick of this "why do you care about offline" nonsense. It doesn't matter what the reasons are. People's reasons can be their own. :(
 
Those people don't play online. I was in a hardcore MMO guild and they basically told people with kids not to play with them as wipes would happen.
I was in Club FU (Everquest, Bristlebane) and you couldn't get much more hardcore than that.
We had moms with kids on raids, yes. We made it work. Just be flexible and ready to change gears quickly. =)


What if you lost your backup?
What if you died?
How would you play then?
 
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I agree, that somehow you could do an offline-version.

I think the main reason why they don't want to do it is simply because they fear that content could be hacked and brought out via youtube videos exposing all the beauty of ED in a single week!
Sorry, i don't want this to happen.

So don't watch the videos then.

Offline games get hacked, cheats published, it happens. It's always happened since the 8-bit days.

It's not a valid reason... sorry.
 
I agree, that somehow you could do an offline-version.

I think the main reason why they don't want to do it is simply because they fear that content could be hacked and brought out via youtube videos exposing all the beauty of ED in a single week!
Sorry, i don't want this to happen.

Or it could be exactly what they say, and its a matter of resource effort to result.... ie To take time to make it would take time away from developing the live evolving game that is the vision for ED. And the end result would be a poor copy and would mean both versions would suffer.

If you want to read the official answers direct from the horses mouth, have a look here?
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php?t=59481
 
Go through the process in the store,
https://store.zaonce.net/cancellations-returns/
and make a support ticket..

They will take every request seriously, just keep it respectful and pleasant and give as much detail about your circumstancies as possible.

All the best and I'm very sorry to see you go.

Please, can someone from the FD give us some more detailed explanation that does not insult the common sense and inteligence? I mean, FFE worked well offline and many of us played it for years and enjoyed it even without fancy dynamic stuff and "exciting posibilities". Your explanations are just suspicious as much as requirement to be online all of the time to play the game. some of us pledged exclusively because of offline play and we deserve answers. This is terribly unpleasant situation and I do not want to be forced to ask refunds. Why are you treating us like criminals since we have supported you?

what with us that need to pause the game due to other things we have to do or when we are on trips and want to play elite? Not all of us can afford to play most of the day or uninterrupted for hours. Your decision is very uppseting.

and, no, this is not just some minor feature, this is a game mode that is Frontier and Elite itself!
 
Why is there a need to go from the average into the extreme? There are enouh guilds not hardcorely playing. I experienced alot of wipes due to telephones, girl/ boyfriends disturbing, internet or power outtages and so on....

Sorry that i didn't make myself clear enough.
yes a pause feature is definatly sth speaking for an offline mode, just the statement online can't be played due to real life circumstances could riuin your experience made me think of hundreds of wipes i encountered and somehow got used to and didn't find that it made gaming ultimatly impossible.
 
Those people don't play online. I was in a hardcore MMO guild and they basically told people with kids not to play with them as wipes would happen.

So yeah... Shame those people can't have any games to play, no?

Shame that this isn't really have ED functions, as there aren't hardcore guilds.

You can quite easily escape in supercruise if you want to, where you can safely exit. Might take 20 - 30 seconds tops.

Also arranging playing time - thing even people with no families do - can help.
 

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It doesn't all have to be calculated.

The only parts that need to be calculated are where there is a player nearby. They don't store 400 billion systems & all the AIs (that get instanced within them on an ad-hoc basis) on the server. It's all generated on the fly, as needed, using PG and coding rules.


But then the experience will not be the same because the galaxy will feel differently, more static - not the way FD wants to create it.

FD want to create a dynamic galaxy where events influence other events and so on, not randomly but step by step. Don't you understand? They are creating a dynamic universe which would exist even without the player being there. You will be able to observe it evolving, conflicts being fought between factions having dedicated effects on surrounding markets and so on ...
 
You hope the GOG has not gone bankrupt then. This goes the same if you lost your install CDs/DVDs/Bluray of any game or movie. You lose it, it's gone. At least GOG allows you to download any time you want.

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Thankfully GOG being supported by CDProjektRed who are currently making the Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2070, I doubt that's going to happen any time soon. The Witcher 3 is looking like it's going to do what the Witcher 2 did and pull a Conan on RPG's.

What's a Conan? Glad you asked : "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women."
 
Really?

Why does he have to give any details at all? It's none of Frontier's business I would have thought. If he's in the UK, the "Distance Selling Regulations 2000" allow him to request a refund without giving a reason.

Pretty sick of this "why do you care about offline" nonsense. It doesn't matter what the reasons are. People's reasons can be their own. :(

Indeed it can. But you have to be prepared to be overruled.
 
Quick question about gog, what if they went out of business and you lose your install, what do you do?
Since it's DRM-Free, it's up to you to backup the install exes.

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Not only that, GOG encourage you to backup the files. It saves them having you access their files.


... And if you do lose your backups you can get the games from them again, (if you're lucky and they are still in business)
 
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