No Single Player offline Mode then?

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There is only one point i understand: offline mode is my universe. Possible solution: If i play solo online i simply pretend that this universe is mine.
 
Who's laughing? No one is laughing! People, like me, are afraid that FDev is going to be thrown to the dogs over this issue. Then the only game in the last 20 years I have ever wanted to see made is in danger of never actually being made, or might be made but because lawsuits and pettiness will end up being taken off line, because you were disappointed.

Sorry it is not working out for you, are you trying to ruin it now for the rest of us?

So you feel so passionate about the game you've waited 20 years for and you're worried that you might not get it that you're doing everything you can (IE posting all over this thread) to try and protect that dream.... So you do understand then?
 

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what about to start a new kickstarter for an offline version of Elite Dangerous ?


Great, we can ?

who will endorse the project ;) ? Bill gates ??


and also make sure to specify the game won't be wireframes graphics ;)
 
If the intention was to allow people to duplicate the disc or distribute the installation package online freely with no restriction on playing the game after installation, the qualifying text would not have been included.

omg..that text is there to reassure people they still have the OPTION to use the online account, you really are grasping at straws here. All this stuff was talked about during the kickstarter and rquested, that is why they added it afterwards!
 

gravityztr

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GolemXIV said:
There is only one point i understand: offline mode is my universe. Possible solution: If i play solo online i simply pretend that this universe is mine.


no no, the universe aint yours lol
 
So you feel so passionate about the game you've waited 20 years for and you're worried that you might not get it that you're doing everything you can (IE posting all over this thread) to try and protect that dream.... So you do understand then?

We are in the same boat. You're rocking it. I'm asking you not to. Natural really. Understand your pain points, but they are not everyone's pain point. Let's get on.

Edit: Oh, I have been told to get off this post... as if my opinion is not important or someone does not want this point of view put forward. Bullying I suppose.
 
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Who's laughing? No one is laughing! People, like me, are afraid that FDev is going to be thrown to the dogs over this issue. Then the only game in the last 20 years I have ever wanted to see made is in danger of never actually being made, or might be made but because lawsuits and pettiness will end up being taken off line, because you were disappointed.

Sorry it is not working out for you, are you trying to ruin it now for the rest of us?
I don't think anyone wants for the game to fail and the company to go into bankruptcy and I don't understand anyone who would take any schadenfreude from this situation except if he is possibly trolling.
Personally I am not here for the money (I will probably give more money for games that I will never play by the end of the month) but I feel that I would be cheated if I won't get a refund for a pre order of a game after they publicly changed requirements.
I believe I did my due diligence regarding the matter before pre ordering and I believe this whole mess wouldn't have existed if they the end scope of the game was more clearly advertized. I don't believe pre ordering a game from a shop should need so much scrutiny from the buyer I didn't even know the existence of these forums before Saturday as I don't know for the vast majority of my games.
 
David explained his thinking on this. A 'client running the whole game' solution will be hacked within hours of release - and the hackers will no doubt publish the locations of every earth-like planet in the galaxy, and assorted other valuable locations. Spoiling the game for everyone. The alternative is that Frontier build a separate galaxy definition for the offline-only game, and that runs into the objection that Frontier don't have the resources to develop two separate games. David's answer seems reasonable enough to me.

Doesn't seem so reasonable when the galaxy is procedurally generated, and you can generate an infinite number of completely different ones just by changing the seed (except for the ~150,000 or so actual stars pulled from stellar catalogues, but even then you can easily strip any Fronter-specific overrides), though...
 
Wrong in what way - given that there is no mention whatsoever of boxed sets or DRM on that page (from 7th November 2012 - a day or so after the launch of the Kickstarter)? Pledge tiers were added later however, I maintain that I do not believe that an active pledge tier could be amended.

wrong in this way...

http://web.archive.org/web/20121127...arter.com/projects/1461411552/elite-dangerous

the DRM free Box sets were added about the 20/21st, and that's the reason why i pledged and hadn't done so before!
 
No it doesn't.

It means that before a wipe there would be a snapshot. You still would need a server, the client wouldn't suddenly become self supporting...

In which case we still would not be able to play the game unless the snapshot could be packaged to run on the client machine or someone provided another server to install it on, so a reassurance goes, it’s useless then.

I took it as implied that the server snapshot would have to be able to run on an end user machine in order to enable them to still play the game once Frontier take the servers down. If that’s not the case why does anyone find it at all reassuring?
 
hey, last minute idea:

what about to start a new kickstarter for an offline version of Elite Dangerous ?

I would rube it if Frontier would say this, "We're going to Kickstart a true update of Elite '84. This will purely be a graphical update of the original '84 code, which in turn will be updated to reflect advances in coding. It will be called Elite: Tribute."

What would the amount of money be that they need? 100, 200K? It will be funded within an hour I guess.
 
I would rube it if Frontier would say this, "We're going to Kickstart a true update of Elite '84. This will purely be a graphical update of the original '84 code, which in turn will be updated to reflect advances in coding. It will be called Elite: Tribute."

What would the amount of money be that they need? 100, 200K? It will be funded within an hour I guess.

I do not think so as it would seem the majority neither care nor want a pure offline version.
 

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omg..that text is there to reassure people they still have the OPTION to use the online account, you really are grasping at straws here. All this stuff was talked about during the kickstarter and rquested, that is why they added it afterwards!

There is no option stated in the text. At the time of the addition of the boxed set pledge tier reward (I believe) the offline mode had not yet been confirmed, i.e. the game was only going to be online, therefore no option but to use the online account - so the "online account" did not need to distinguish between "a players online account with Frontier to be able to play the game at all" and "online access to the game".
 
I would rube it if Frontier would say this, "We're going to Kickstart a true update of Elite '84. This will purely be a graphical update of the original '84 code, which in turn will be updated to reflect advances in coding. It will be called Elite: Tribute."

What would the amount of money be that they need? 100, 200K? It will be funded within an hour I guess.
Maybe. It would also raise some questions like "So you're doing what Oolite does, but charging money?"
 
Here's a thought...

In the future release an Offline DLC. It doesn't have to be big, exciting and dynamic, it can be essentially beta offline. Yeah, I know that's not just tapping your heels, but it's probably doable after you've gone through launch. Crappy DLC? Probably, I wasn't exactly pshyched about Hearthfires for Skyrim, it was small, inconsequential to the game world and cheap. I'm talking essentially a side-game, like the solo training missions... something to do while you're connection is down or you're out and about doing whatever it is you do.

Here's the catch though, you have to give it for free for anyone who backed kickstarter or bought the game before NL49 (or gamma), to be safe. They did pay over retail to support you and were on this premise, after all.

Offline players get to practice their skills and pass the time while offline, the galaxy is very limited, so there's no secrets to uncover inside the "Pill" from beta, and you might make some money with the post-beta players that might cover further development costs.

It won't resolve the problem, but it's something. Better than the current situation that's equivalent to "Yeah, I owe you money, you lent it to me when I needed it, I promised I'd pay you back, but, well, things change, so I'm not gonna... you'll be angry for a while, so vent, curse, but hurry up and cool it off and suck it up. Cheers."
 
We are in the same boat. You're rocking it. I'm asking you not to. Natural really. Understand your pain points, but they are not everyone's pain point. Let's get on.

Edit: Oh, I have been told to get off this post... as if my opinion is not important or someone does not want this point of view put forward. Bullying I suppose.

If you really mean we are on the same boat, than why don't you support the people you are in boat with? You are asking them to support you, but you didn't said: "Hell, that just isn't right! We are all in this right from the start. We shoul'd all make FD to recomnnsider this since many of their fans feel let down and they have the right to play this wonderfull game in the way they want and were promised for."
If that actually happened, FDs woul'd also act differently and nobody woul'd even talk about refunds or lawsuits and taking any revenge against FDs.

By stating :"I got what I want and who cares about the others. Do not ruin my game!" you only add fuel to the fire.
 
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It will be interesting to witness the change of attitude with some, if and when some expected feature near and dear to these previously unaffected masses, hits the cutting room floor.

We'll be all "I don't want to say 'I told you so', but... I told you so".

Let's look at the bright side... at least it'll bring the community back together again. :(
 
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