Not sure Frontier were wise.

[Derath]

I think the biggest problem is that it was marketed as an MMO. The expectation and crowd it attracts is radically different than if it were to be marketed as something closer to the X series.

One competent player is worth more than a hundred idiots in the long run if you ask me. FD really shot themselves in the foot in my opinion.

If it was marketed like the X series it would be even worse than as an MMO, other than X series fans tolerance for abuse being higher lol

 

[Druid]

Irony, a bit like goldy and silvery .

 

[GluttonyFang]

As a business maneuver to garner more income, FD was right to put the game on Steam.

Expecting people to have the patience to actually read in this generation? FD was either drunk, high, or out of their minds.

I say FD weighted its options. One hand, a burst of income, other hand, horrible reviews due to the complexity of the game (in the perspective of a non-reading illiterate people).

Evidently the income was more important.

 

[SuicideSmurf]

Evidently the income was more important.

...because who cares about so called reviews written by some idiots?

 

[PsychoFish]

Since it brings more money, as mentioned before, it was a good move for Frontier and us! Think about it. FD gets more money to (hopefully) keep on improving the game. The "idiots" that don't "get" the game or don't like it will just go leaving behind their money. We dedicated players profit from the income FD has made, because they will put back into the game.

The reviews haven't been all that favorable from the get go anyways. And I trust in people who will "get" ED to see through all the bad reviews saying "this game is sooo stoopid, i crashed into the station on my first flight".

 

[Flavio]

To help people"read" the instruction manual maybe they should have a few of the instruction videos download for viewing while the game downloads and is installed. People will then know what to expect when they first start to fly and may not be so quick to complain.

 

[Majic-12]

Here Are The Actual Steam Reviews

What they reveal is that this thread is actually a showcase of straw-manning, hasty generalization and psychological projection, rather than a rational assessment of the Steam community, or anything else, for that matter.

No need to blame an outgroup for negativity.

There's plenty of it right here.

 

[nats]

These sorts of comments are from computer gamers who have never played a space sim game nor a flight sim, both of which used to be the staple of PC gaming. They are coming to a new type of game and they dont fully understand it so are getting frustrated. When I myself came to Frontier many yearsa go I had already got a wealth of flying sim/space game knowledge from the Spectrum and Amiga under my belt so the gameplay came quite naturally. But rthese gamers have never played a game like this. The most they might have tried will be War Thunder but most likely just CoD or some other rts/fps clone (beleive me I am not trying to sound condescending here). I bet they havent played Eve or anything like this game before. They have been pulled in by the snazzy video, the review in PC Gamer and seeing it on Steam for the first time.

So we should be helpful to these newbies and welcome them into the fold. Admittedly that's not the best way to ask for help but that's the internet, and especially Steam, for you. But its still a cry for help. We should still try to help them out in realising that this game is a very different beast to the many rpg/fps/rts games out there.

 

[Xodz]

Since it brings more money, as mentioned before, it was a good move for Frontier and us! Think about it. FD gets more money to (hopefully) keep on improving the game. The "idiots" that don't "get" the game or don't like it will just go leaving behind their money. We dedicated players profit from the income FD has made, because they will put back into the game.

The reviews haven't been all that favorable from the get go anyways. And I trust in people who will "get" ED to see through all the bad reviews saying "this game is sooo stoopid, i crashed into the station on my first flight".

If it is put back into the game I would not call it profit. Profit is usually considered gains minus expenditures. I would not be surprised at all if some of the Profit was used to fund the DLC's they plan to sell us, if that's what you meant.

 

[Iskariot]

Hi gang.

You know I'm really not sure Frontier were wise putting ED on steam, even if you ignore the mass of backers who are rather irate at (possibly) not getting a steam key, the amount of Steam users posting nonsense reviews or moaning about problems that don't exist are amazing.

I've talked on Steam chat to many and they are asking the most silly questions like how to leave dock, pick up cargo, redock, whats SC, Why did I get a fine etc etc etc
I tell them to read the pdf manual but these people reply the same "I don't like reading and I'd rather ask questions"

Then they get stuck on something, get annoyed, quit the game and begin to badmouth it because they were too lazy to read!

This hasn't happened once or twice to me but many. seriously FD, you shouldn't have put the game on Steam, I'm obviously not saying all steam users are stupid or lazy.

Some actually quotes!!

"bought the game, went to undock and got fined for shooting, game is broken, want refund!"
"cant pickup pods, then hit station and blew up, this is a --censored-- game"
"ship won't fly right and something hit me, I want a --censored-- refund you --censored--"

I could list more. Needless to say, I never go in the steam chat room anymore but FD, you should have left the game on your site only and then only people who were really interested in the game would get it.

I sure won't miss that kind of players.
By the way there are a lot of that type of comments on this forum too.
A lot of the younger gen is used to games that hold their hands all the time.

 

[Lupis]

Yeah as a person who wanted this,bringing it on steam forced my hand. I went in fully thinking its be like dark souls but in space and I'm kinda right. Sadly the masses on steam don't have a brain between them. Many believe the game is an early access game.

It's not FD's fault that most steam users seem to be special snowflakes.

 

[FuzzySpider]

Since it brings more money, as mentioned before, it was a good move for Frontier and us! Think about it. FD gets more money to (hopefully) keep on improving the game. The "idiots" that don't "get" the game or don't like it will just go leaving behind their money. We dedicated players profit from the income FD has made, because they will put back into the game.

The reviews haven't been all that favorable from the get go anyways. And I trust in people who will "get" ED to see through all the bad reviews saying "this game is sooo stoopid, i crashed into the station on my first flight".

But FD will now have to share up to 30% of their profits with Valve. Do you think that Valve are going to put 30% of the development in? Nope, thus we ultimately end up with a weaker game unless the money they gain from Steam sales exceeds the money they would have gotten from simply not using the service.

 

[Coyote]

The game's development is already paid for, I bet. So 30% of the profit on Steam are just 30% of profits FD just puts in their pocket. They take whatever they get - I mean, even Star Citizen won't charge you real money for getting a mere paint job for your ship.

 

[Flavio]

But FD will now have to share up to 30% of their profits with Valve. Do you think that Valve are going to put 30% of the development in? Nope, thus we ultimately end up with a weaker game unless the money they gain from Steam sales exceeds the money they would have gotten from simply not using the service.

For this reason, I would have thought that there would have been a price difference between the steam and normal version and if people wanted the steam key, they just need to pay the difference.

 

[Distance]

But FD will now have to share up to 30% of their profits with Valve. Do you think that Valve are going to put 30% of the development in? Nope, thus we ultimately end up with a weaker game unless the money they gain from Steam sales exceeds the money they would have gotten from simply not using the service.

Well since they've paid 600k for 1.4mil in profit it's not that bad of a deal.

 

[mojonaut]

What Bomba said ^^^ ... there's the same posts here on this forum, whining, ranting, demanding refunds, throwing toys out of the pram etc etc.

You missed Fanboyz and Sycophants

 

[Lupis]

For this reason, I would have thought that there would have been a price difference between the steam and normal version and if people wanted the steam key, they just need to pay the difference.

here is. I don't know how much the game via Fd is in USD but in steam its $60USD.

 

[SteveLaw]

here is. I don't know how much the game via Fd is in USD but in steam its $60USD.

$59.99.

https://store.elitedangerous.com/usd/elite-dangerous-cat.html. (select currency at the top of the page)

 

[Xodz]

Yeah as a person who wanted this,bringing it on steam forced my hand. I went in fully thinking its be like dark souls but in space and I'm kinda right. Sadly the masses on steam don't have a brain between them. Many believe the game is an early access game.

It's not FD's fault that most steam users seem to be special snowflakes.

Many believe it is an early access game that are not on Steam. The reason is not because they are snowflakes, it is because the game lacks enough content to be considered a Released game, for many. Just look at the forums here and you can see that.

Most agree that it has potential. Most agree it needs more than what it has. Some people are happy with it how it is. Some people aren't happy with it how it is and want more added so they can be happy with it.

 

[PsychoFish]

But FD will now have to share up to 30% of their profits with Valve. Do you think that Valve are going to put 30% of the development in? Nope, thus we ultimately end up with a weaker game unless the money they gain from Steam sales exceeds the money they would have gotten from simply not using the service.

It's all speculation, but less profit is better than no profit at all. You have to consider that some players from steam wouldn't have bought the game.