Notable Stellar Phenomena really should be in FSS & map

foxoplasma

foxoplasma
It is... a really big surprise to me, that as far as i know, Notable Stellar Phenomena appear in neither the discovery scanner, nor the system map.

Only if you take an occasional look through the left-side navigation panel, which explorers rarely have reason to do, will you know if you have discovered one.

Now, i will admit, that i have not discovered a Notable Stellar Phenomena completely by myself yet.

But i do not remember that of the ones i have checked out that other have found, none of them appeared in the system map, or discovery scanner.
 

varonica

varonica
AIKI_ZVEZDA said:
It is... a really big surprise to me, that as far as i know, Notable Stellar Phenomena appear in neither the discovery scanner, nor the system map.

Only if you take an occasional look through the left-side navigation panel, which explorers rarely have reason to do, will you know if you have discovered one.

Now, i will admit, that i have not discovered a Notable Stellar Phenomena completely by myself yet.

But i do not remember that of the ones i have checked out that other have found, none of them appeared in the system map, or discovery scanner.
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They appear in the FSS, don't confuse ring based stellar phenomena with open space based stellar phenomena. The ring based phenomena are designated as part of the ring features, much like surface sites on planets and moons, you have to get close enough or scan with the DSS to find them, space based phenomena such as Lagrange Clouds appear in the FSS otherwise you could never find them since they are only around 10klms across and floating in open space, finding the right area of space would require crossing backwards and forwards across the system until you were close enough for them to show up in the nav panel.

The first ring based phenomena I found was purely accidental after flying to a Lagrange Cloud in orbit around a gas giant.
 

Ian Doncaster

Ian Doncaster
AIKI_ZVEZDA said:
But i do not remember that of the ones i have checked out that other have found, none of them appeared in the system map, or discovery scanner.
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They can appear in the discovery scanner in the "concentrated signal source" region.

The catch is that - like other concentrated sources such as stations - they automatically resolve once you've resolved the parent planetary or stellar body they're bound to. That makes it very hard to spot when you've resolved one (and in the case of an L4/L5 cloud, it might be a long way from the main body anyway)

If you check for resolved signals in the signal source band (the little circle with a number) once you've completed a planetary scan you should be able to tell if they're there at all without scrolling the entire navigation list.

For Frontier: it would be nicer if when a signal source is auto-resolved as a result of resolving another one, you at least get a detection message for it as well.
 

mono_no_aware

mono_no_aware
Sorry for the bump, but I have seen a couple of people reference this thread stating that it is evidence of Non Sequence Stars and Stellar Phenomena not appearing through the use of FSS and DSS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you use the Discovery Scanner then the FSS, you will see any Notable Stellar Phenomena (including those in rings) on your FSS Spectral Analysis (and in your navigation panel!). You do not need to fly up to rings to find them. Sometimes they may automatically appear in the navigation panel after honking, so you won't need to use your FSS. To find Hotspots in rings, you will need to surface scan the ring, but for Lagrange clouds etc that is not necessary.

Source: Circumnavigated the galaxy and submitted 2bn credits in exploration data last weekend.
 

varonica

varonica
mono_no_aware said:
Sorry for the bump, but I have seen a couple of people reference this thread stating that it is evidence of Non Sequence Stars and Stellar Phenomena not appearing through the use of FSS and DSS. Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you use the Discovery Scanner then the FSS, you will see any Notable Stellar Phenomena (including those in rings) on your FSS Spectral Analysis (and in your navigation panel!). You do not need to fly up to rings to find them. Sometimes they may automatically appear in the navigation panel after honking, so you won't need to use your FSS. To find Hotspots in rings, you will need to surface scan the ring, but for Lagrange clouds etc that is not necessary.

Source: Circumnavigated the galaxy and submitted 2bn credits in exploration data last weekend.
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My original post was quite a while back, during the beta and I think am certain ring based NSP's didn't appear in the FSS during the beta, I distinctly remember when first exploring Lagrange clouds that some ring based NSP's suddenly popped up when getting close to a ringed GG and they were never present in the FSS at the time. They do of course appear now in the FSS but since that was the beta maybe that wasn't working correctly at the time.

Your are of course correct, they do now appear in the FSS correctly, the behaviour in the beta may have been a bug of some sort related to life forms found in rings. People shouldn't be using a thread posted during the beta as a reference since all things may change after the beta.
 
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