Now that "Arena" has been floated off.....

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Either way (assuming they don't drop it), at least the Ship Computer recognizes "the error" and marks "the one that doesn't belong there" red :D

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I don't get this Arena stuff. FD took CQC, spinned it off the 'main game', named it Arena, made it cost $$ and called it a brand new game? Or am I missing something?

Yes, you are actually.

What they did was to take Elite: Damgerous, strip everything from it other than CQC and started selling it for a much lower price. They are certainly not calling it a brand new game.
 

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Sorry - no idea as I haven't had a chance to play it as yet :)

But as it is CQC but just accessed via another door so to speak, I am assuming that my current rankings and stats are not affected.
 
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I still think that is a made-up reason. If "enjoyment" is the criteria for including some aspect of in the game, I might as well request the "trading" rating to be removed from the HUD, because I think trading is boring as hell. Likewise, I know many esteemed explorers in ED with a "Novice" combat rating who say they don't like to fight in the game, so they might demand to remove that rating from the HUD.

In the end, FD decides which game elements are part of the game, and obviously they decided that CQC and its ranking are indeed valid parts of the game (a very good decision, IMHO), you can take it or leave it, it's your choice. The game is not a "configuration tool" where you select only those parts you like most and build your own custom HUD accordingly.

It still baffles me how the inclusion of the CQC rank in the ranking panel causes so much discomfort with some players. Does it really hurt your self-esteem so much that there is a small "helpless" hiding beneath those other proud rankings? :p

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Get some rep for that Dude reference! :D

And I still think the objections are "made up reasons" I have explained multiple times the difference between what are effectively "trades" or job descriptions within the Elite universe and a virtual sport, even if you think trade or combat or exploring are boring within Elite it is almost certain that your rank in all of them will eventually change as you progress through the game.

The CQC rank is for a virtual sport not real life (as represented with the game) it is also the only one that currently requires you to actively leave your game and log in to another game to effect it, so if you have no interest in playing any kind of sport and do not wish to stop playing Elite and start playing CQC Arena pew pew your ranking will forever be there mocking you every time you check your HUD for anything.

It is made worse by the rank which has been chosen to represent someone who has no desire to play it at all.

To keep making objections based on a dislike of trading or exploring just show that not only do you not bother read (Or understand?) many peoples writing on the subject but you also ignore those ranks were part of the game before the CQC Xbox mode was even added, it is by far the most incongruous thing FD have tried to add, just does not fit the style of game and it is failing to attract players who mostly just don't want it.

Rather than just give up on it FD seem determined to irritate many of their existing customers by forcing it's effects on the actual game we bought.
 
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And I still think the objections are "made up reasons" I have explained multiple times the difference between what are effectively "trades" or job descriptions within the Elite universe and a virtual sport, even if you think trade or combat or exploring are boring within Elite it is almost certain that your rank in all of them will eventually change as you progress through the game.

The CQC rank is for a virtual sport not real life (as represented with the game) it is also the only one that currently requires you to actively leave your game and log in to another game to effect it, so if you have no interest in playing any kind of sport and do not wish to stop playing Elite and start playing CQC Arena pew pew your ranking will forever be there mocking you every time you check your HUD for anything.

It is made worse by the rank which has been chosen to represent someone who has no desire to play it at all.

To keep making objections based on a dislike of trading or exploring just show that not only do you not bother read (Or understand?) many peoples writing on the subject but you also ignore those ranks were part of the game before the CQC Xbox mode was even added, it is by far the most incongruous thing FD have tried to add, just does not fit the style of game and it is failing to attract players who mostly just don't want it.

Rather than just give up on it FD seem determined to irritate many of their existing customers by forcing it's effects on the actual game we bought.

....Have some rep Sir! This exactly! If they want to keep it available within Elite for those that may like it, please allow us to have it removed from the UI at our option.
 
To keep making objections based on a dislike of trading or exploring just show that not only do you not bother read (Or understand?) many peoples writing on the subject but you also ignore those ranks were part of the game before the CQC Xbox mode was even added, it is by far the most incongruous thing FD have tried to add, just does not fit the style of game and it is failing to attract players who mostly just don't want it.

And they were added to the "only real Elite Rank, which is for combat" for the sake of pleasing those who don't think combat is the be all, end all of things.
This entire game is mocking me, every time I start it!

My Explorer rank will most likely never be at Elite, since I don't really enjoy Exploring all that much. My trader rank requires me to mindlessly "grind" stuff, which is every now and then, so it's already lagging behind and then CQC. I just quit MOBAs and now they add this useless feature to my dear pew pew spacegame.

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That was the sarcasm part up there :D

ermm, your point is pretty clear and understandeable, however you percieve things from that point and don't seem to want to acknowledge that there's other players with different wants (who also percieve things differently .. a ocd "overachiever" type of player would want to fill all of the 4 ranks, regardless if he likes the activity or not .. yea, I was kinda compulsive and overachieving at one point :D ) .

I really don't care about CQC .. or playing in open.
It's just .. it doesn't really matter, since I play the stuff I like and there's plenty of that.

UI customization to hide stuff you don't want to see? All for that - but don't really see it as a priority feature that has to be added on the "soon to be done" list.


Oh, and can you guess what I saw in that announcement somewhere?
They'll add some of the eye candy that CQC has to the main game. Clear win. Those arenas do look pretty nice (there's videos on youtube and sometimes a streamer is in CQC).
If they need some small-scale area to test some more complex structures that they later add to the main game, when they get the procedural generation for that stuff down .... yay CQC. Best feature ever. :D
 
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It won't be moved I'm afraid. According to FD when CQC was first announced, your CQC ranking will be relevant to missions on the BB. I do agree, though, that CQC should be "hidden" in a similar to the way PP is. :)
 
It won't be moved I'm afraid. According to FD when CQC was first announced, your CQC ranking will be relevant to missions on the BB. I do agree, though, that CQC should be "hidden" in a similar to the way PP is. :)

Sorry if this seems a little OT but what you've said is rather interesting... A PvP component that allows for possible PvE content. Not saying it's a bad thing or that it's good either. Do you happen to have a source? Not to worry if not. :)
 
No, leave it where it is! I absolutely enjoy having the option to play a round of CQC during deep space exploration trips like the current "Distant Worlds" expedition without having to return to a station in the bubble to do so! I'd rather suggest to have the following features in addition to selecting CQC from the main menu:
  • have an option to start CQC from the station interface (with the ship being parked in the hangar and the pad being freed for other commanders, effectively logging the player out of the current game in the background for the duration of his CQC activity)
  • add a "spectator" mode to the station interface allowing you to watch live matches of CQC
  • have GalNet "eSport" articles cover results of CQC tournaments to better integrate it into the game lore
  • show highlight reels of specific matches on the holographic displays around stations and in hangars that are just used as advertisement places for ship manufacturers at the moment.
  • add CQC decals so I can show off being an eSport champion within a game galaxy :D
All of this would be wonderful, nice suggestions.

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And I still think the objections are "made up reasons" I have explained multiple times the difference between what are effectively "trades" or job descriptions within the Elite universe and a virtual sport, even if you think trade or combat or exploring are boring within Elite it is almost certain that your rank in all of them will eventually change as you progress through the game.The CQC rank is for a virtual sport not real life (as represented with the game) it is also the only one that currently requires you to actively leave your game and log in to another game to effect it, so if you have no interest in playing any kind of sport and do not wish to stop playing Elite and start playing CQC Arena pew pew your ranking will forever be there mocking you every time you check your HUD for anything. It is made worse by the rank which has been chosen to represent someone who has no desire to play it at all.To keep making objections based on a dislike of trading or exploring just show that not only do you not bother read (Or understand?) many peoples writing on the subject but you also ignore those ranks were part of the game before the CQC Xbox mode was even added, it is by far the most incongruous thing FD have tried to add, just does not fit the style of game and it is failing to attract players who mostly just don't want it.Rather than just give up on it FD seem determined to irritate many of their existing customers by forcing it's effects on the actual game we bought.
So it's different because you say it's different, sure, that's a sound argument. You might "accidentally" trade as much as you might "accidentally" slip into CQC. These requests to remove it are silly and amount to temper tantrums. It's one little bar on a side panel that you never need take note of. It is now part of the game, as much as anything else is, and it's wonderfully fun.
 
With the announcement of Arena as a standalone game, could we please have CQC/Arena and all of its info removed from the main game's screen real-estate?

For me at least it was a total misfit and it made no sense to me that I cannot select a location from which to start my gaming session (from any one of my many stored ship locations), but magically I can jump to a CQC arena as if by magic from the other end of the bubble.

Totally inconsistent and at odds with itself this game sometimes. :D

Yeah that would be nice, I really don't like the CQC stuff in my status screen.
 
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