Obsidian outpost...

Get real. He just needs to put in a ticket like the rest of the explorers that get bugged.
Whit a ticket they CANNOT give you exploration data back, and tagging. When data is lost is lost also for them. They can give you back money, around an esteem of what money you think you have made. They can give you back your ship if you weren't insured. But ranking, tagging, and probably the most important thing to us, the explorain data in your map, are lost forever.
 
As much as i feel sorry for the loss in the video, loosing data is the ONLY risk in the exploration. When we stay out for months it's the only chill. So for game mechanics sake, even when it's completly not your fault, the data mechanics should not be saved.
Not referring to this loss in the video, but making it back is an huge thing in exploration, as it always has been in human history.
Well that is true, however I would argue that the payout from exploration in terms of time put in, is very small even with improvements, it still in terms of hours invested vs payout is very low, is it also low risk? yes so far, though they have indicated that this might change, and armed exploration might become something people should consider, until then we will see. But giving people a chance to go out and get their stuff again when they have put that much time into it seems reasonable, note, I am not saying it should be a 100% chance or 100% recovery, I don't know the specifics yet, that can be worked out but I think the idea has merit. Maybe the amount of data they recover could deteriorate over time? there are many idea's that could be given to modify the suggestion, rather then simply shooting it down?
Decay could be random element in system going from detailed discovery to 'normal' then to unexplored and then when all elements are unexplored could vanish from the log?
Thoughts?

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Get real. He just needs to put in a ticket like the rest of the explorers that get bugged.
This was not a bug on frontier's end, I haven't heard about anyone getting stuff back other then from server crashes and similar causing disconnects and ship destruction when it should be.
In this case he didn't need to fly that close to the black hole to begin with, sure he didn't expect anything to go wrong, but that it did isn't really frontiers fault as much as it sucks?
If you've heard of cases where its been restored, link please?
 
No other 'Class' would accept this level of loss, I don't understand why Explorers accept it.

I knew what I was signing up for, and when I lost 4 months (Sunny Side Up was my ship...) to what seemed to be a Windows glitch, where the DEL key press in Explorer got sent to ED as well and turned on Silent Running, I took a week off and then started again.

Stuff happens, I actually quite like that there are significant consequences in the game. Even having been on the receiving end and even if it wasn't entirely my own fault (although panicking and not saving myself when I could have if I'd kept my head is all on me) I would still decline such an option were it optional and if it was a built in mechanic that couldn't be turned off feel that the game had lost something.
 
I knew what I was signing up for, and when I lost 4 months (Sunny Side Up was my ship...) to what seemed to be a Windows glitch, where the DEL key press in Explorer got sent to ED as well and turned on Silent Running, I took a week off and then started again.

Stuff happens, I actually quite like that there are significant consequences in the game. Even having been on the receiving end and even if it wasn't entirely my own fault (although panicking and not saving myself when I could have if I'd kept my head is all on me) I would still decline such an option were it optional and if it was a built in mechanic that couldn't be turned off feel that the game had lost something.

Sunny Side Up Incident is famous now through Erimus, not to say that it wouldn't have been better returning home safe, but this kind of parachutes are really something.
 
I knew what I was signing up for, and when I lost 4 months (Sunny Side Up was my ship...) to what seemed to be a Windows glitch, where the DEL key press in Explorer got sent to ED as well and turned on Silent Running, I took a week off and then started again.

Stuff happens, I actually quite like that there are significant consequences in the game. Even having been on the receiving end and even if it wasn't entirely my own fault (although panicking and not saving myself when I could have if I'd kept my head is all on me) I would still decline such an option were it optional and if it was a built in mechanic that couldn't be turned off feel that the game had lost something.

That's fair enough, and I'd rather it was a module to be bought rather than something hard-coded into the game; hard-coding I'd vote down. A module would offer choice.

Sunny Side Up Incident is famous now through Erimus, not to say that it wouldn't have been better returning home safe, but this kind of parachutes are really something.

*Shrug* As a module it would be a choice, don't buy it.
 
That's fair enough, and I'd rather it was a module to be bought rather than something hard-coded into the game; hard-coding I'd vote down. A module would offer choice.



*Shrug* As a module it would be a choice, don't buy it.

well, to conclude my personal opinion on the subject, if a mechanic is implementied, autonerfing isn't fun. If an accident happens then "why he didn't use the recovery data thing", RP goodbye and epic tales gone.
i second a recovering data mechanic only when exploration will be dangerous.

Btw, rep for the civil discussion, I'm going to love this forum after years in the steam one...
 
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Get real. He just needs to put in a ticket like the rest of the explorers that get bugged.

Unless something has changed since January, its impossible for FD to restore lost exploration data. I lost everything I achieved throughout Gamma and early release, including first discoveries of VY Canis Majoris, Shapley 1, several clusters, and the ETA Carina Nebula, stuff I surveyed and provided proof to game support via the New Horizons video series I made at the time. Over 2,000 surveyed systems wiped out due to a bug and a game support screw up.

The best they could offer me was 6,000,000 credits in compensation as I quote "we're sorry, but unfortunately there is no way for us to restore lost exploration data".

Its one of the perils of being an explorer I suppose :/
 
In this case he didn't need to fly that close to the black hole to begin with, sure he didn't expect anything to go wrong, but that it did isn't really frontiers fault as much as it sucks?
If you've heard of cases where its been restored, link please?

Head over to the main forum, cmdr's get there money and ships back for screw ups that are blatantly there own fault.. I don't agree with it but it happens a lot. I'm not talking about hardware glitches or software faults, this is guy's flying around without insurance in big ships and then crying when a NPC slaps them up
 
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User errors or hardware issues can have very dramatic result.

But this is Elite "Dangerous"

Insurance and absolute concentration are vital to have
 
This has happened before - an explorer losing 4 months worth of data due to an unfortunate incident. The 'Sunny Side Up' incident out in the Perseus rim springs to mind.

If Obsidian wants to name the system he died in and to preserve the event with others that unfold in our background history, it could be added to the mapping project as an historical point of interest... Similar to how other historical exploration events have been.

I doubt FD will go around creating outposts in honour of player events like this, nor achievements, since players have circumnavigated the galaxy, crossed from one side to the other, and even Zulu Romeo's trip to Sag-A, all special achievements that never earned a mention on GalNet, never mind having FD build outposts in their honour.

It's down to us fellow explorers to preserve and honour the events and history we're creating via the great exploration diaries and story threads on these forums. Being a storyteller too, I'm sure Obsidian would agree.

I believe the best way to honour Obsidian Ant's sacrifice is to learn from his experience;

1. Unbind any unnecessary commands while exploring (like silent running)
2. If you are having any controller issues, get somewhere safe and sort them out
3. If you have to divert your attention from what's outside your canopy, zero throttle or point your ship in a safe direction.
4. If you find the ship's voice annoying, turn off all messages EXCEPT warnings

From this day forth, I shall think of this as The Obsidian Protocol.

Fly safe Commanders.

R.
 
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Head over to the main forum, cmdr's get there money and ships back for screw ups that are blatantly there own fault.. I don't agree with it but it happens a lot. I'm not talking about hardware glitches or software faults, this is guy's flying around without insurance in big ships and then crying when a NPC slaps them up
Really?.....dang
 
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Such a shame to go in such a way after 4 months on the road. Hats off for taking it so well cause had that been me i would have lost the plot... :D

While a lot has been lost at least everything leading up to it is still there for all to see. Hats off to you ObsidianAnt for a wonderful series and i look forward to future episodes.

I am currently about 30k out scanning neutrons and watching OA go up in flames has made me feel rather uncomfortable all of a sudden. I am heading back home shortly regardless cause i think i have enough ATM to reach Elite.
 
UPDATE - On a comment to one of his recent YouTube videos he says that FD have put his ship back in the same location and given him the credits for his data. The data itself is gone however.

Good news
 
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