Let's just say that if Frontier Developments are to regain any shred of respect, it will take action in a whole new direction for the company, not just empty words and (including this one) three carefully worded (to avoid liability) non-apologies. It would probably need replacing parts of their staff who are far too set in their ways to be retrained for advanced new concept like "telling the truth" and "factual comparisons isn't hate speech". The efforts I've seen so far points in the entirely opposite direction of trying to regain respect, and more like trying to silence dissent. As D2EA pointed out, so far the numbers indicate you can still get players back IF you fix things. But. Alienating them by the sheer arrogance displayed on your supercruise news will cost you far more than your botched release did. It will cost you any chance of regaining the respect, because those you have alienated will have moved on and turned their backs on you. No matter what you do, they will not see it. Nor will any of them ever touch any product from you again, because they will ASSUME it's as bad as this one currently is (Even after more than a month of fixing stuff that NEVER should have made release!), no matter how great it is. The credibility you are burning, is LITERALLY the sales of any future product, unless you intend to stick to children's games. But even then you should remember that it's the parents that are paying for those games. Remember how we all laughed at the scene in "The Naked Gun" with the police officer shouting "nothing to see here" through his bullhorn to those looking at the corpse in the water? That's exactly how the people praising fdev now look. The rest of us aren't laughing. We're sad.
Down to earth astronomy. One of the Twitch/youtube content creators who have been VERY HELPFUL towards making educational material for Elite Dangerous, and have been EXTREMELY positive towards Elite Dangerous, without ever becoming the kind of insufferable white knight some of the content creators have been. Most of the "toe-the-party-line" forum members were singing his praises until he dared the sacrilege of stating that the emperor was infact wearing nothing. Also known that not only was Odyssey a buggy mess, it also didn't actually have any content. Then, all of a sudden, the people who had been singing his praises, started saying he was a content creator who wanted to "create strife and drama" to increase his income (those U-turns are why I worry about the mental health of some of the forum members. They are behaving more like cult members than game players).whos D2EA?
Never heard of himDown to earth astronomy. One of the Twitch/youtube content creators who have been VERY HELPFUL towards making educational material for Elite Dangerous, and have been EXTREMELY positive towards Elite Dangerous, without ever becoming the kind of insufferable white knight some of the content creators have been. Most of the "toe-the-party-line" forum members were singing his praises until he dared the sacrilege of stating that the emperor was infact wearing nothing. Also known that not only was Odyssey a buggy mess, it also didn't actually have any content. Then, all of a sudden, the people who had been singing his praises, started saying he was a content creator who wanted to "create strife and drama" to increase his income (those U-turns are why I worry about the mental health of some of the forum members. They are behaving more like cult members than game players).
Never heard of him
Ah he’s the German accent chap. I stopped watchI got as it got boring watching him use a logging exploit over and over and over - maybe I looked on a bad day.That is a shame because he is one of the few that I have any time for. Look him up, here is his channel (it is not all Elite by the way).
There have been few specific commitments to timing or content of updates.I thought the Updates are every 2 weeks and Update 6 should have been released now? Has the release timing changed or due shortly?
That's great news, please point link to timing for Update 6. I cannot find it.There have been few specific commitments to timing or content of updates.
D2EA has a "day job" (I know this because he said he had taken a couple of days off work for the launch of Odyssey) therefore he does not depend on following the trend to keep his viewing figures (and income) high. Other channels had to jump straight on the salt train to ensure they could still earn a living from their videos (the only kind of ED getting watched these days) but D2EA gives his honest opinion, so when he started criticising the DLC it was beyond clear all was not well with it.Down to earth astronomy. One of the Twitch/youtube content creators who have been VERY HELPFUL towards making educational material for Elite Dangerous, and have been EXTREMELY positive towards Elite Dangerous, without ever becoming the kind of insufferable white knight some of the content creators have been. Most of the "toe-the-party-line" forum members were singing his praises until he dared the sacrilege of stating that the emperor was infact wearing nothing. Also known that not only was Odyssey a buggy mess, it also didn't actually have any content. Then, all of a sudden, the people who had been singing his praises, started saying he was a content creator who wanted to "create strife and drama" to increase his income (those U-turns are why I worry about the mental health of some of the forum members. They are behaving more like cult members than game players).
I think there's been a misunderstanding of what @Vallysa said.That's great news, please point link to timing for Update 6. I cannot find it.
My point, which you evaded, is that the self-righteous "everything is great" crowd has been perfectly ok with the content creators, as long as they stayed true to preaching how great everything is. The moment any of them criticised ANYTHING they started screeching like criticising Frontier Developments was an act of blasphemy. Every. Single. Time. It's time for even the most pious Elite Dangerous fan to stop treating criticism of Odyssey like it was apostasy.D2EA has a "day job" (I know this because he said he had taken a couple of days off work for the launch of Odyssey) therefore he does not depend on following the trend to keep his viewing figures (and income) high. Other channels had to jump straight on the salt train to ensure they could still earn a living from their videos (the only kind of ED getting watched these days) but D2EA gives his honest opinion, so when he started criticising the DLC it was beyond clear all was not well with it.
Is it negativity to point out disingenuous CL4P TP when someone is spewing disingenuous CL4P TP?More negativity please. So entertaning.
Bring it up with FDev, ultimately they're the one's who have left precious few alternative outlets for player frustration through the mishandling of communication. I suspect had they handled it better, it would have defused player negativity immensely.More negativity please. So entertaning.
The released "roadmap" (terrible name for that thread) was for patches 2-5. Path 6 was announced by David in this thread, but there is no ETA for it at this stage.That's great news, please point link to timing for Update 6. I cannot find it.