Unfortunately, it was just TS discussion so beyond "sounded american" i can't give anymore info. They weren't kind enough to say thier names clearly befire incriminating themselves.
Ok can the game be hacked?
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Unfortunately, it was just TS discussion so beyond "sounded american" i can't give anymore info. They weren't kind enough to say thier names clearly befire incriminating themselves.
dayrth
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It could well be this. I have seen some quite dramatic effects caused by a poor connection (not mine), but it could also be cheating. It happens sometimes unfortunately. Best thing to do if you see it again is get the commander name (and a video is you can), and report it to FD. They can check the server logs and take action against cheaters if that is what was happening.
I never said that the guy who killed me was a cheat. It was an easy kill tbh as I was sat doing something else whilst waiting for a free pad. The first I knew was when my shields went offline. From then on I was toast really. He was a griefer though 100%. No pirating intentions shown whatsoever.
My OP about cheating/hacking was the crazy 'impossible' turn move another guy was doing. The ships don't behave like that and I wish I had turned my video capture software on prior to seeing him doing it.
It's worth pointing out that the hacks seen in the wild all seem to affect the P2P area of the game which means combat interactions. I've not heard of any hacks that get around the transaction server side of things allowing users to hack more money or upgrade ranking.
Also, reports on reddit recently indicate that the existing available hack tools don't work with newer version of Elite which the client detects and crashes out. So it's not like Frontier are sitting back doing nothing.
Also, reports on reddit recently indicate that the existing available hack tools don't work with newer version of Elite which the client detects and crashes out. So it's not like Frontier are sitting back doing nothing.
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But it's also probably safe to say that such tools will most likely be back up and running within 24 hours of the release of a new version.
Hurricane Moon
Banned
cheat engine and scripts.....thats how its done fellas.
and the guy above is correct ....there is no current script that works without crashing...yet.
dont do it myself,but intriged by the way this stuff works.....(the cracking of codes and the making of scripts ect)
big War Games fan from the 80s you see lol....
and the guy above is correct ....there is no current script that works without crashing...yet.
dont do it myself,but intriged by the way this stuff works.....(the cracking of codes and the making of scripts ect)
big War Games fan from the 80s you see lol....
players using cheats isn't new and you will be surprised at how many players actually use them, just check out the elite reddit and you even have an ama with someone who makes them for elite dangerous, he goes into detail at how easy it is and how easy it is to run them he also feels that frontier turn a blind eye to it on most occasions.
im sure frontier try to block these hacks during updates but these type of people enjoy the challenge of creating new ones for players to use, im sure you will begin to see cheats being used after CQC is launched.
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Anyone else remember when people hacked/cheated in games for fun?
Example, In World of warcraft, Vanilla- early wotlk, when people would have a bunch of level ones characters form some website, then die? (Ignoring the website, and only focusing the characters and what they do)
Runescape, When people would line up campfires in a line, or in a giant LOL
Or just the people that mod the game for fun, to make people have a good laugh. (Games like tf2, counterstrike, gmod) where you see ovbious bots trying to be human, but instead just end up messing around (On purpose) If you want a good idea about that, look up Robot rebels (by criken) to get an idea on the type of hackers im talking about.
Less "LETS HACK TO GET AN ADVANTAGE, MUHAHAHAHAHA" And more "Lets get a bunch of level 1 orcs, named all the lyrics of a song just walk in a stright line from the starting zone, to the main city.
(sorry if bad spelling occurs, new keyboard im not compleatly used to)
Example, In World of warcraft, Vanilla- early wotlk, when people would have a bunch of level ones characters form some website, then die? (Ignoring the website, and only focusing the characters and what they do)
Runescape, When people would line up campfires in a line, or in a giant LOL
Or just the people that mod the game for fun, to make people have a good laugh. (Games like tf2, counterstrike, gmod) where you see ovbious bots trying to be human, but instead just end up messing around (On purpose) If you want a good idea about that, look up Robot rebels (by criken) to get an idea on the type of hackers im talking about.
Less "LETS HACK TO GET AN ADVANTAGE, MUHAHAHAHAHA" And more "Lets get a bunch of level 1 orcs, named all the lyrics of a song just walk in a stright line from the starting zone, to the main city.
(sorry if bad spelling occurs, new keyboard im not compleatly used to)
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They actually fixed that in the script that's being given away for free within a few days, according to the site, it's working fine currently, AND they had the 1.4 beta release the moment it was released, which tells us that KS backers are among the crowd using the hack, big shocker there eh?
I used to hunt hackers and the people who created the hacks, started as a hobby(I was a hacker myself, white hat) and then as part of my job duties(worked for game hosting companies and ISPs). Name a game, online OR offline, on the PC or Mac, there's a cheat/hack for it somewhere out there, including the big MMOs like WoW(there's more than just scripted bots), and there always WILL be. Hell, even PS and XBox games have hacks now, my son-in-law has had quite a few XBox Live accounts banned and had to replace the actual console multiple times for using them before he finally stopped(and we've made sure my grandson knows that if he even THINKS about doing that, we'll string him up by his toes).
FD is aware of the problem, the site that releases the hack has made mention multiple times of FD countering what they've done and how they have had to work to get around the counters, and they are very clear that they do NOT want the hack used in Open because that is how it gets busted. FD isn't ignoring this issue, they just aren't being real vocal about it, which is the industry standard response.
As to how FD punishes people caught using hacks, that's entirely up to them, and you can be sure we don't KNOW what's happening. I'm sure they are using the soft approach Agony_Aunt talked about, it's typical, I did it when I running servers for a company as opposed to running my own/team servers where we didn't play nice to people we busted with hacks, instant permban. Working for companies however, it was a warning with a tempban, often 3 days, and then we'd watch them when/if they returned. Continue to use a hack, we'd give them a month long ban. When/if they returned, if they used the hack again, permban. We'd give them multiple chances before we got hardcore on them however, and I'm sure FD is doing the same thing, it's good business.
When it comes to taking a reactionary stance and relying on reports to investigate there are two things that I don't understand - one is I have just looked and it's very easy to find and it's just a script with source code, if that's just sitting there for all and sundry why aren't these holes closed as and when the new ones are found? Secondly, despite it being p2p there is still a server involved, and you are required to log your position as soon as you exit jump on the server, I'm going to assume that the info is stored in the db with a time stamp, so it should be dead easy to weed out the infinite jump crowd etc?
A quick SQL query, show me all cmdrs who jumped more than 30ly in the last 24 hours, including ship type and fsd class...
The script makes for some grim reading if you care about elite
A quick SQL query, show me all cmdrs who jumped more than 30ly in the last 24 hours, including ship type and fsd class...
The script makes for some grim reading if you care about elite
The guys trying to ruin the game via hacks apparently hold the moral high ground in their own heads, because "offline mode". They claim there are no innocents here, that every player is complicit in the swindle that FDEV pulled on them, and so all are viable targets for retribution. I'm sure I've heard something like that before...
Sounds like a Darwin candidate.
Hurricane Moon
Banned
cheats have been around since the home computing era of the golden 80s...
hell i had a game genie for laughs for my megadrive ..
most games allow cheats,or the ability to use cheat engine say to manipulate values as long as they are not stored server side.
i think its fun if in a single player enviroment.....but not to ruin a online game thats a supposed level playing field.
i have a trainer for most of my games...because when my lad plays a few of them he gets frustrated at dying all the time and likes to do his own terminator type thing lol...gta v and mgs v tpp or mad max for example.....and i enjoy playing god,after all they are only games
each to his own...as long as it doesnt get into anyone elses aura
hell i had a game genie for laughs for my megadrive ..
most games allow cheats,or the ability to use cheat engine say to manipulate values as long as they are not stored server side.
i think its fun if in a single player enviroment.....but not to ruin a online game thats a supposed level playing field.
i have a trainer for most of my games...because when my lad plays a few of them he gets frustrated at dying all the time and likes to do his own terminator type thing lol...gta v and mgs v tpp or mad max for example.....and i enjoy playing god,after all they are only games
each to his own...as long as it doesnt get into anyone elses aura
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People really are that dumb. Especially the script kiddies, and those who think that endlessly pinging from a Windows box is going to do anything more than make your average user laugh.
The funniest part here is that the evidence on both ends can be cooked up easily. And people running portscans on their ingame peers is something new, although expected.
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Running a port scan isn't that dumb and I also doubt it is illegal. Following through to get your private data would be illegal, but here the guys who can check their netlogs are likely safe and others just won't notice
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Have you reported this ?
It's easy to level un substancistied claims but where's the proof ? have you reported them and how did you know it was code that DoSed your system .
It's easy to level un substancistied claims but where's the proof ? have you reported them and how did you know it was code that DoSed your system .
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That's easy to obtain - ask your ISP for traffic logs, match them up with your own network logs. Whoever wants to be playing naughty in Elite will usually have some form of interaction with their target - wether that be pew pew or message. Screenshots of that, Elite's own logs, corroborating evidence of the offending CMDR posting somewhere "I'm in CODE" and tying that to their CMDR name on Reddit or whatever would be nice.
Still - it's a lot of work over basically nothing, and there is no way to prove that whoever owns that CMDR account was the person actually doing naughty things.
As for portscans - they happen all the time for good (and bad) reasons, and are generally not worth worrying about. Targetted attacks can and do occur though - especially as the attacker knows you have an active and open port that he has access to - you're playing Elite via it.