ok i have to admit, there may be a problem

JughedJones

JughedJones
Eloy said:
I am not naive, so yes. No doubt there are such people. And most of them lead other people.
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You actually think that folks who kill players in game are apathetic about victims of murder and sexual assault in real life?

get help, brah.
 
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Mortifa

Mortifa
kingchub said:
I dont like whiners, i hate when people bang on and on about people killing u for no reason. i thought they might be exxaggerating becuase this was not my experience in the game.

however

i just convinced one of my steam friends to try this game. i decided to take him to a res and earn him some good cash tog et him started.

i instructed him to wait outside the RES so that i could go in and check it.becuase if it was a bad RES with low value pirates i could come out and go back in to reset it.

so there he is waiting outside combat rating harmless and sitting in a sidey.

im checking the res when he says to me oh ive been interdicted.

im coming i said and started leaving the res. he says dont worry this has happened before ill just warp off.

ok i think but i continue on toward him just in case.

he starts saying omg im dying. so i pick up the pace. cant find him in space. so i instructing him on how to activate a wingman nav beacon.

he activates it and i activate nav lock. eventually i get pulled out of SC.

and what do i find.

my friend in a harmless sidewinder. is being set upon by a player ina python.

.

im in a python as well, fit for combat. i start to boost towards the enemy python opening fire as i do roughly 3km out.

i dont make it in and time my friend dies.

i was and still am absolutley disgusted.

i chased the enemy python into a nearby res. but he immediatley eneterd sc again. io followed but then got a proximity warning and dropped out of warp and lost him.

my friends and fellow CMDRs this behaviour is simply unacceptable.

there is no challenge no real victory in doing what the enemy CMDR in the python did. its like an adult picking on a child honestly.

it appauls me.
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Sorry for your friends bad experience. I firmly believe that setting a bounty system up with a high enough bounty and people being made aware of the killer is needed for these incidents.

And no, claiming the game is called Elite:Dangerous is no excuse.
 

Xenomorph

Xenomorph
CMDR Zadian Lichtfrost said:
And strangely I've never been interdicted by a NPC ship that was "much bigger class" than the ship I was flying. I think my first interdiction by a NPC Python was while flying a T-7. In a sidewinder? I think the biggest ship that interdicted me was a Cobra.
I would be very surprised if the developers didn't "balance" the ships that interdict players based on the ship the player is in.
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Exactly. An experienced player doing this to an obvious newbie is calculated, that's the difference, there's no point to it and nothing to gain. It's just ganking.
 

kingchub

kingchub
Jackboot said:
Your friend lost nothing. Absolutely nothing. I don't see what the problem is at all.
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he lost a little bit cos he had already upgraded to some A class modules on the sidey. Then when he died to the python he respawned at the station buying his ship with insurance.

he tried to leave the station and gets rammed continuously by an orca. died again.

its not what he lost, its the principle of it.
 

JughedJones

JughedJones
Xenomorph said:
Exactly. An experienced player doing this to an obvious newbie is calculated, that's the difference, there's no point to it and nothing to gain. It's just ganking.
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so what?

get over it. be better or move to solo/private group.

terrible wingman got his friend's free ship popped in open. end of riveting story.
 

Reaver 2.0

Reaver 2.0
I've been playing online games for a few years and one universal truth I've come to realize is this:

when it comes to PvP, most of the people that go in for this type of play are not at all interested in fair, competitive and balanced encounters. All they want are easy kills to make themselves feel powerful to offset feelings of powerlessness in their sad little lives.

If you understand this going into a PvP game, it's easier to cope with these cowards.
 

Eloy

Eloy
JughedJones said:
You actually think that folks who kill players in game are apathetic about victims of murder and sexual assault in real life?

get help, brah.
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no brah, of course not necessarily
I just wanted you to think immersive. I think that´s the problem of some discussions here. Clashing perspectives.
Peace & out
 

Kayweg

Kayweg
Xenomorph said:
Exactly. An experienced player doing this to an obvious newbie is calculated, that's the difference, there's no point to it and nothing to gain. It's just ganking.
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Of course it is ganking, but how can the OP not KNOW that it is taking place and act all surprised about it ?
 

JughedJones

JughedJones
kingchub said:
he lost a little bit cos he had already upgraded to some A class modules on the sidey. Then when he died to the python he respawned at the station buying his ship with insurance.

he tried to leave the station and gets rammed continuously by an orca. died again.

its not what he lost, its the principle of it.
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so... we're concerned about principles in a pvp game huh? good grief.
 

Xenomorph

Xenomorph
Reaver 2.0 said:
I've been playing online games for a few years and one universal truth I've come to realize is this:

when it comes to PvP, most of the people that go in for this type of play are not at all interested in fair, competitive and balanced encounters. All they want are easy kills to make themselves feel powerful to offset feelings of powerlessness in their sad little lives.

If you understand this going into a PvP game, it's easier to cope with these cowards.
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Amen dude.
 

Straylight0

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If there were loads of PC pirates or bounty hunters after money, fine. Instead, we have an inordinate number of plain psychos, a lot of them exploiting the loopholes in the game to boot (and showing no sportsmanship). Not roleplaying or in keeping with the game universe.

If this goes on too long we'll have open play as a PVP-only zone with added annoyance
 

Sandmann

Sandmann
Are you enjoying all the justifications so far? All the "dont play open if you dont want pvp" etc... as if a python attacking a sidey was anything other than shooting fish in a barrel. These are the same ats who will tell you there's no such thing as griefing. It basically only happens in open... try one of the many groups that don't welcome these jerks. Mobius is my favourite (nearly 8000 players in there who don't like jerks) but there's plenty of others too... find one that suits your tastes and join up. You can always migrate back to open once your friend has learned how to fly and has at least a small chance of defending himself against morons. (Though the same people who will tell you there's no such thing as griefing will also cry bitter tears at the idea of noobz having a safe place to learn how to fly.)
 
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JughedJones

JughedJones
Surly_Badger said:
Truth, that.
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good grief you guys a fragile.

if someone kills your ship, you have insurance and you move on. quit acting like it's some kind of reflection on complex social issues.

it's not. it's a fun game where people lose sometimes. you don't always get the trophy and save the princess.

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Sandmann said:
Are you enjoying all the justifications so far? All the "dont play open if you dont want pvp" etc... as if a python attacking a sidey was anything other than shooting fish in a barrel. These are the same ats who will tell you there's no such thing as griefing. It basically only happens in open... try one of the many groups that don't welcome these jerks. Mobius is my favourite (nearly 8000 players in there who don't like jerks) but there's plenty of others too... find one that suits your tastes and join up. You can always migrate back to open once your friend has learned how to fly and has at least a small chance of defending himself against morons. (Though the same people who will tell you there's no such thing as griefing will also cry bitter tears at the idea of noobz having a safe place to learn how to fly.)
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sandmann, I like you. I like what you have to say usually. ( I even repped you when I bitterly protest your post) but this is ridiculous.

have insurance. learn to suck it up when you die. don't cry over a game.
 
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