That's funny, it sounds like a moron taking advantage of the lack of appropriate consequences for killing clean players to me.
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ok i have to admit, there may be a problem
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That's funny, it sounds like a moron taking advantage of the lack of appropriate consequences for killing clean players to me.
OP, I understand your frustration. It's really sad, vile, stupid behavior. It really is and I dont know what IQ one must have to enjoy "playing" that way.
But, every freaking on line game has its good share of these morons!! And since you -or anyone else- can't control their actions, the only thing left is to adjust your reaction to that fact.
This behavior is not news at all for anybody here, like it or not. You knew, better probably than your friend, that an attack of that kind was perfectly within the realm of possible outcomes in that situation, and yet, you decide to get disgusted because it happened?
Sucks. I know. I got killed myself on my maiden fly. Did I get mad? Not really: I had been reading the forums for over a week by the time I get to play. So, I knew I was at risk as soon as I launched.
Finally, being a game, are you really gonna get that mad about it? Those poor people in Nepal are having a hellish of a time right now, to put things in perspective, but here we are giving importance to these trivial things.
I just hope you and your friend take it lightly and just move on. The world is unfortunately full of morons. It's your decision to let them drive your emotions and spoil your fun! Keep playing in open and in no time, you will find 10 cmdrs that are worth the experience instead of that stupid one.
But, every freaking on line game has its good share of these morons!! And since you -or anyone else- can't control their actions, the only thing left is to adjust your reaction to that fact.
This behavior is not news at all for anybody here, like it or not. You knew, better probably than your friend, that an attack of that kind was perfectly within the realm of possible outcomes in that situation, and yet, you decide to get disgusted because it happened?
Sucks. I know. I got killed myself on my maiden fly. Did I get mad? Not really: I had been reading the forums for over a week by the time I get to play. So, I knew I was at risk as soon as I launched.
Finally, being a game, are you really gonna get that mad about it? Those poor people in Nepal are having a hellish of a time right now, to put things in perspective, but here we are giving importance to these trivial things.
I just hope you and your friend take it lightly and just move on. The world is unfortunately full of morons. It's your decision to let them drive your emotions and spoil your fun! Keep playing in open and in no time, you will find 10 cmdrs that are worth the experience instead of that stupid one.
As if destroying a Sidewinder in a Python requires experience - LOL. Even getting the Python doesn't require experience, just time. But you are right, it's PvP.
so what?
you cry on a message board? them's the rules. he has a python for god's sake, he must know this.
his friend in a free ship got popped? who gives a hoot?
like I said, I've never seen such a fragile and sensitive community of people so worried about consequences.
Whoah!... NPCs have feelings too.
I'm sure the OP has killed a few NPCs in Sideys in his Python, with complete disregard to their well-being. What happens to them and their little NPC families, when daddy get's obliterated by the OP's Python? Does anyone care?
Seriously though, it'd be an interesting experiment to play the game without the mechanic of differentiating between Human and NPC players. Would you really think twice about destroying a lesser armed/defended ship if you didn't know if it was a human player or NPC? Just an interesting thought experiment to ponder.
IMHO - too much whining about griefing that isn't really griefing. As has been said time and time again - ad nauseum - it is Elite Dangerous after all. Dust off and move on.
Yep, you missed it. This has been going on forever. It was your fault to a degree, not for being a lousy wing man as earlier suggested, but for taking the new guy into open in a sidey. I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
Forget all the crime update talk, fix this, fix that...blah, blah, blah. The decent people just need to abandon open for solo and groups, and let the <redacted> play with other <redacted> in open. The best solution here is just to educate the community that open is gankfest, encourage them to avoid it, and let the mode and those in it, rot. Harsh words, but the truth.
King its just the way it is and to be honest man you just end up coming off a little whiny with threads like this. Don't get me wrong, I'm on your side and people that try to bully others simply because they are new and pose no threat to them are pathetic imo. If I ever find out that I'm in a player guild/group with someone like this I am quick to call them the cowardly little [masked swearing redacted - please avoid this thank you] they are right there to their "face" in TeamSpeak.
Like I said earlier, you just need to go into a game that has PvP with the understanding that this happens. Just move on and try to hang out with mature gamers that don't condone this stuff.
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Of course it doesn't bother them types. If the roles were reversed(you waiting outside the RES) Cmdr PepeLePewpew wouldn't have attacked an equal or slightly superior ship. Evidenced by the fact that he ran like a whipped dog with his tail between his legs.
What you really need to do...is look at the ED universe like the ocean. There are a multitude of different fish, some bigger, some smaller, some predators. You unfortunately left your small fish friend out in the open ocean and a big toothy predator wandered by. Just next time, take the little dude with ya. Atleast he lost a free ship. Definitely an experience to learn from to survive longer in open.
Yup. Or encourage your buddy to join you in a group like mobius.
in my defense, as I was the one who suggested it... bringing his friend into open and having him languish outside of a core system's RES in supercruise is, in my view, the very definition of being a lousy wingman.
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Amen to that...let em play with themselves...LOL
It's a game, we play for fun and entertainment. It's not a job where we are required to do things we don't want to do. How much fun and entertainment do you think that noob had? Do you think he logged out thinking "that was great, I wanna do that again" or would it be more like "what a bunch of ats, think I'll go play something else". I'll give you a hint... if it was the first one the OP wouldn't have had a reason to start this thread.
Noone is "crying", and that use of that term is nothing short of emotional intimidation, attempting to blame the victim. The amount of ire that certain people express every time someone mentions here that they don't enjoy being picked on and targeted by vastly more capable players... and even more so when someone suggest they go solo or to a group is very telling. Why do you care if someone plays in a group? Why do you care so much that you resort to emotional blackmail to try to prevent it? How does it affect you one way or the other how anyone else plays their game, and if it doesn't affect you why are you attacking tye OP for the post and me for the suggestion?
this is where you have it wrong Sandmann. you assume there's a "victim" in this circumstance.
'emotional blackmail' 'emotional intimidation' 'blaming the victim' these are all terms that should be reserved for very dire situations. Some dude's friend getting his free ship popped and whining about it on a message board is not one of those.
please, check yourself.
Some folks on here do, clearly, have some real life issues. If you think some meanie in a game is a reflection of how the world is... you may need some help.
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Maybe he just didn't like the idea of noobs in sidewinders collecting huge bounties from ships they could in no way kill on their own. You are essentially powerleveling him by killing large bounty ships for him. Maybe he is against that.
If that were the case, would that change "the principle of it" for you?
Maybe he was roleplaying a member of the pirate faction in the system you were in. Or maybe he was roleplaying as a fed in an empire system, etc. There are plenty of reasons why one might want to kill a sidey sitting alone just outside a RES.
Maybe he just wanted your friend to learn a lesson, or maybe he wanted you to learn one, about how to better safeguard your friend when you are in space that could easily be hostile.
Or maybe it was just a random act of violence. Does it really matter? It certainly sounds fun. It had to have been exciting for you to try to save your friend from an actual real credible threat instead of an NPC, and I'm sure you will know how to prevent someone from doing this in the future (stick together)
It is certainly more fun and excitement then you can ever expect to have playing alone in easy mode. I certainly wouldn't want to make these types of encounters impossible or more difficult in open, they are the reason I only play there, the uncertainty of it is the fun..
However, in most european cities, some guy shoot you in front of witnesses, he is bound to have a APB on him until killed or brought to justice to serve a sentence (for me, the sentence would be flying in disciplinary squads of non shielded Condors until the insurance debt is paid, each kill is worth 100 creds).
It brings challenge to PK and separate the boys from the men.
GTA would be far less challenging and interesting if you could shoot NPCs without any reaction from the local police.
And as a fun fact, wild west had a more strict gun control than most modern US cities now.
But completely agreeing on the "stop crying and saddle back, be more careful next time".
Awesome.
YES! This is why I play open. If I get set on by a bigger stronger player or players.....maybe I get killed...maybe I run for my life screaming like a little girl. Either way it's way more exciting than just bumping around grinding credits. I'll take excitement over boredom any day.
Yeah not griefers; call them gankers.