Nor did they design it to make PvP optional if you encounter another player, yet it doesn't stop people from making the case that there should be entire modes that subtract the features that they don't personally like.
Nor did they design it to make PvP optional if you encounter another player, yet it doesn't stop people from making the case that there should be entire modes that subtract the features that they don't personally like.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
True, both multi-player game modes are PvP-enabled - however additional Open "groups" (modes), where the rules could be different, were mentioned in the Kickstarter FAQ - so they were on Frontier's radar even then. Hardly surprising that they are sought now.
Hey, let’s not forget Maynard’s big idea is to functionally sequester PvPers in an in game ghetto.
Just bringing it back up because I find the idea that utterly and completely appalling.
Just bringing it back up because I find the idea that utterly and completely appalling.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
Misrepresented a bit there - the rest of the galaxy would be available to all players - the designated zones would only be accessible to players in Open (and players could enter or leave as they chose).
If anything it would be more of a gated community where not everyone can enter.
.... anyway, it's just one idea - of many - with just as little likelihood of being implemented.
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You know I remember sometime back certain individuals gloating about playing in private groups and snubbing Open. There were false claims that open was not populated and folks leaving on mass. We've heard it all, from the fuel rats describing people as miscreants to people comparing PvP to .
The reality, however, appears to be very different and as for the whining, well I've been around for a very long time, and the whining only ever seems to come from one side. Anything else is just a response.
Frontier have done pretty much all they can to eliminate PvP from the game without making it impossible yet you would wish us to believe 'PvPers' are the centre of attention. LMAO.
The fact of the matter is there are two types of player in this game. Those who got gud and those who are incapable yet managed to whine enough to convince the devs that they are the victim.
And what do you call a ‘gated community’ that me and hundreds of other Commanders won’t want any part of?
Sounds like ‘ghetto’ represents the idea pretty well!
Make no mistake: as far fetched as it sounds, there is a contingent in the community, given voice by many who constantly argue on these kinds of threads, who want exactly this kind of feature.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
If the idea is unappealing, suggest another - bearing in mind that, as current advertising states that players in Solo can still contribute to economy, politics and conflicts of the connected galaxy, it's unlikely that Solo and Private Groups will be cut-off from affecting the BGS.
Can you turn off the blue flair on your posts when having a discussion. Otherwise it gives you an unfair advantage when we discuss the game. Imagine if every post I made was highlighted..
The idea is more than just unappealing. It’s appallingly bad - so bad I don’t feel like discussing another with you.
Robert Maynard
Volunteer Moderator
My flair is off - you must have "show signatures" disabled.
I have it on and can see your blue just fine.
I'm now wondering if this is some kind of stupid mod joke.
People are complaining about a mod name being blue...... wow, how low some have sank.
With some of the Avatars and Sigs around here, a blue name is the least "stand out" thing I've seen recently.
If folks want to start complaining about that, I'd be happy to start the petition to remove everyone's customisation options - and we can all be the same?
With some of the Avatars and Sigs around here, a blue name is the least "stand out" thing I've seen recently.
If folks want to start complaining about that, I'd be happy to start the petition to remove everyone's customisation options - and we can all be the same?
It might have less to do with the color of letters and more to do with the fact that a mod so clearly invested in one side of a debate gives the appearance of partisanship in the way that the forums are administered.
Even if the mod hat is off and no rules are being broken, it's difficult to not see what is being seen.
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Sorry but if you play in solo or pg and you try to screw my bgs.... you can do it with out oposition, you doesnt be interdicted, nobody will stop you. Or try at least to stop your actions because nobody can see you. And only will see it when the thick happened. So again i dont see your point the solo and pg pve its something that affects all without risk of nothing....for thst i insist that elite isnt dangerous and the rest its poetry.....
By the way i do all in open if i want to screw a faction bgs i do that in open and i assume the risk of being blown to the oblivionif i get caught not like the solo or private group guys that are afraid of open sitting in their billions of credits and making this game elite not dangerous
Claiming Solo and PG don't have "risk" is horse crap and you know it. Some PG's are PVP based.. and even in Solo you don't just skate around scott free and do what you want. But you and others want to keep spreading that falsehood because you want to screw with PG and Solo to make things Open Only then scream and throw temper tantrums when we tell you No.
Yes we have been through this before, yet somehow you still think that we are "trying to do something to Open". Those of us who play in other modes DO leave Open alone, the problem is that those in Open don't want to leave the other modes alone. So some have tried to come up with compromises, but certain people always denounce them because they want things Open only... And by doing that they are screwing the other modes ... and you wonder why we are vocal?
Why does it not surprise me that it is you that took an idea by Robert and twisted it all to hell then claimed what you twisted it into is what Robert meant.
Really? Maybe I will have to learn to drive a front loader. You claim only one side whines... blatantly false, there also have been a few whiners about people blowing up someone's ship here and there. You ignore that Frontier's actions and the "elimination" of PVP from the game was due to the ACTIONS of certain PVPers. You write this whole thing trying to paint PVErs as aggressors and PVPers as victims... when it is a small subset of PVPers who are the aggressors and PVPers and PVErs are the victims... that is what all these threads are about. What the SOGS were about... PVPers demanding change because others being able to play the game and affect the universe and they couldn't kill them irked them off. Tough cookies.
We are perfectly capable of playing the game, you just are incapable and whine claiming you are the victim because you can't dominate every other commander in the game.
And you are right there are two types of players in the game. Those who PLAY the game, and those who whine and demand Frontier throw their whole structure away and make it so "they" can play and everyone else can't.... because they told others to "get gud" and they instead "got gone".
Bloody hell you just can't deal with things can you.... unfair advantage... what was that about people whining... good example here.
News flash for all of you ... Mods can have opinions as well and are fully allowed to express them. If you don't like it then you can get gud or go play in another thread.
Gonna go ahead and interpret your non-answer to my question as "none or next to none".
I'll make you an offer- again, totally serious. You wing up with me in open for an hour or two and we do whatever you want. We can explore, mine, bounty hunt, harvest mats in empty or populated systems- you name it. If we get attacked by a CMDR I'll buy you a paintpack. If we don't, you relay the story of that time you toodled around in open for a few hours and nothing at all traumatizing happened.
No tricks. No hidden gankers waiting for you when we meet up. You and many like you have a terribly inaccurate view of open- that it's nothing but a den of sociopath griefers, lurking in every system you jump into. It isn't like that- not even close.
Those who are most terrified of open are those who know the least about it.
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That's one theory. Another is that some people who don't like Open are the ones who gave it a serious try, maybe even for a long time, and got ganked and griefed one too many times for no reason other than trolls like trolling. They possibly even lost a lot of credits, or months worth of exploration data, simply because someone else felt like spreading some misery that day.
Ignorance is not why many people avoid Open. In fact it is very much the opposite.
I think those who oppose the existence of an official Open PvE mode are those who just don't understand why it's desired.
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Why is there this oft repeated idea that peeps are "terrified" of Open? There are plenty of PG-only CMDR's who enjoy PVP, and PVP only, in a "gated community" so they don't suffer lulzbunnies, risk inconveniencing vastly outmatched or unwilling CMDR's, won't see n00bs, and can generally enjoy their gametime as they see fit and proper for them - and everyone else who so chooses.
Others don't play in Open because of a variety of reasons, fear not among them, but a general distate for having their gametime affected by those playing on connections that are weapons-grade miserable, with a PC barely capable of booting, and a crisp packet as a wifi-antennae thieving distant broadband.