Maybe I'll sign up for Archon. He does have the best burgers.
Open-Only in PP2.0?
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I'm going by what people have said over the years. You also have a large group that simply wants goodies. The difference is one group values the strategic side while the other does not.I wouldn't make claims about what the majority of people attracted to PP are interested in, but personally speaking, if the mechanics are interesting for me, i'll be happy to do a wide range of activities, like i do in regular play. Sometimes combat, sometimes hauling, perhaps turning in exploration data, if all this is possible to help the power.
As long as I can do it all from PG or solo
Well, they would need to start having GMs to deal with antisocial behaviour, trolling and gankers.
Frontier has always been unwilling to have an active game manager, so they gave us the modes and an improved block feature.
Perhaps if people stopped with the "childish" attitude of wanting to ruin other people's game time, then we wouldn't need the tools to deal with them.
Robert Maynard
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No point assessing size / volume if they won't hold liquid. Tray.
Given that Powerplay 2.0 seems to be "simply play the game while pledged" I expect it will be trying to appeal to players just playing the game, "a lot" of whom don't engage in combat.
We'll see how much it will appeal to players in general in due course.
Ive been doing PP for 2 years, not as long as some folks but i have no interest in PvP or PP combat based activities at all.
I'm pretty sure I'm not alone in that.
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Like I said, its (currently) the top area of the graph where most activity in PP occurs. For example in the livestream (obviously subject to change) you had the amounts of merits and tiers- what was shown (IIRC Tier 5) had something like 68000 merits. Now, people can and have done that in a week (mainly via prep races). When I was part of a snipe I did 10K as a casual while others much, much more. So depending on how its calibrated, current players in PP who do the work will jump right up almost from cycle 1 of PP2.
And while every part of ED counts its not clear when it counts or by how much compared to traditional Powerplay tasks- tasks that revolve around avoiding or dishing out violence.
I was the same when I was doing PP. I've never had an interest in PvP in the main game. I did* CQC when it was added.
It was the module tourism that put me off PP in the end, so I'm glad that has been dealt with in the new system.
[Edit = Edited a typo out.
* = I did do some CQC when it was added until I found out how people were cheating in it, and then I stopped playing it]
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PP2 removes the need for module shopping though. You'll still get some people signing up to get the modules, but should be less of a problem than before with people jumping from power to power.
Yes, but you will still have unguided 'work' as they do whatever they can wherever they can to get them as fast as possible.
This is why very early on in V1 PP you had shoppers prepping, expanding and dumping in systems close to the capitals.
Some shoppers (generally from rival powers) would politely ask where to put the 750 merits but with V2 I am curious to see how they'll pepper things about.
Robert Maynard
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Given what seems to affect Powerplay 2.0 it's highly likely that "unguided" will become the norm rather than the exception.
We will have to see, which is the interesting part. Things might go the way of what BGS groups do and 'advertise' expansions to the unguided.
No it won't (thank Brabus), however its just illustrating my point that you'll have a group that does not value the strategic aspect of that activity. Its when you do things go wonky.
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That was my impression. Its not like the old idea of powerplay specific missions that was floated early on. It just seems like if you're aligned with a power then your activites automatically affect the power if in a relevant system. So, running missions because you want to make money, get materials, or whatever your motivation, might affect your power or an opposing power.
Being more unguided might result in a more interesting and dynamic powerplay situation then.
It very well might- although I also wonder if you'll have half 'pre-prepared' systems littered everywhere stuck with half done mini CGs as outlined on FU 4 (that is if it does not eventually degrade or is cancelled by the tick). Just as the devs said on stream, its one thing to take a system, its another to hold it and its this that I think will either make people go to groups (for more oomph) or they'll go 'sod it' and just do anything.Being more unguided might result in a more interesting and dynamic powerplay situation then.
FD really didn't think about that acronym.
Anyway, if that is the case, it will apply to all powers to some extent, unless certain regions simply don't have much in the way of randomly pledged players in and only coordinated ones.
Thats the interesting part, and I'm looking forward to seeing it evolve given its a highly evolved version of how BGS factions expand.
I've joined now too, will be heading in there for CG's in the future.
Wow, alot of ideas I like in that post. I wonder if Fdev could pull that off. But giving some risk/meaning to the pointless waste of time to a non pp interdiction would be a start.
Fdev never said the modes would be equal, did they? They only said you could play the game in any mode and do what you wish. To each their own. And part of that choice is currently how it will affect the background simulation and your chosen power. Maybe Fdev assume's people play for fun and not to win?
See above. Fdev never said balancing the modes was or would ever be a goal. Pick the play style you like and go for it, that is all.
Again, Fdev made no promises on mode selection being 'fair'. Are you playing for fun? Or to win?
That was a YT poll, about Elite, there have been other YT polls as well. Anyone in the World could have voted in them, so it #'s are useless compared to actual Elite players. Scam Citizen and Eve players probably voted
No one said modes would be balanced. Just that each player would have a choice
Any YT or forum only poll that does not require the voters to have a licensed copy of said game is useless to me at least
Fdev never said fair or equitable. Just a choice for each player to make.
But it's spiced rum season already??
You are most definitely not alone in that
Was there a better way?