I mean him. So I'm asking, do you want to be able to blow it up while you're asleep?
Open-Only in PP2.0?
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I have to say, I actually have no idea what you're talking about. I can't parse your sentences to get a solid meaning.
I can't do anything when I'm asleep, that's because I'm asleep. Also, fleet carriers can't be blown up.
Yeah, I agree it was too much.
Okay, I'll make it simple:
Why do you think that people playing in single player mode can harm you, but people playing in an open game with you but at a different time (when you are sleeping) can't harm you ?
It isn't a single player mode. PP is meaningless without other players. Nobody plays it in solo- not for very long, at least.
The fundamental desire here isn't for a game where anyone can be killed at any time. It's for fun gameplay, for the majority of players. PP is most fun when everyone is in open, and most that play PP regularly will tell you that.
I've been in the game since 2015, and I've seen a lot of statements like this in that time. Usually all these piles are not long-lasting in the game, after 2-3 years the whole pile quits playing and pulls all those who are in this pile with them.
I think we will come back to this conversation in about 5 years.
Good luck.
I never said they could harm me from solo.
But powerplay is like playing tug-o-war. People in solo are playing without anyone at the other end of the rope. They can just move the goal unopposed. They can attack your systems without anyone coming to stop them, because they're hiding in solo.
Why forbid them to do it? Why not do the same to them?
I suspect your experiences are not in PowerPlay, because the groups the play it tend to last a long time. I've been around since 2018, and until Odyssey, many of our leadership were around at the beginning of PowerPlay.
I agree, I'm a loner and it's hard for me to visualize it.
Maybe you are right and large groups with a clear hierarchy can exist for a long time.
I just play the way I want to play and I don't like anyone telling me what to do at that moment.
A lot of people that oppose OOPP don't draw a clear distinction between PowerPlay and the rest of the game, and mostly that's because they aren't involved in it. But I don't think there's any serious push to make the whole game open-only- speaking for myself, I frequently go into solo to do engineering etc. PowerPlay is a unique beast because of the kind of thing it is.
I do want to encourage you, though, to maybe try going outside your comfort zone and give it a go. I'm not a very social person either, but if you can find the right kind of community, people that align with your perspective to some degree and who welcome you, working towards a common goal can be very rewarding. I know it's a cliche to say that being a part of a greater whole feels nice, but it does. I've learned a lot about myself from it.
It may work in the mainstream but alas it is unlikely to work for me.
First of all, I have always been and remain with the point of view that the BGS should not be played !
In the second I played a long time in the PP, I liked to have a rank, get a salary of 50 million and do what I need to do for my chosen force, and to do it relying only on the game menu and not any side platforms outside the game.
Third (most importantly
) You have no idea how old I am, I still do not use as I do not understand why you need any messengers and the like. There are e-mail and forums, it is enough for communication and allows me to answer thoughtfully and at a time convenient for me.
Because there is no point in war if the enemy can't show up to defend themselves.
The defense can be different. Or do you think that playing Chess is not fighting?
If you can't fight back against your enemy, it's unfair.
No, chess is not fighting.
Besides I am a radical 100% supporter of open-play only for everything (daughter and me account for thousands hours in open)... it wouldn't be unfair if the game provides appropriate counter features to solo/PG exploits, i.e. like using AFK or semi-AFK winged turret boats to win wars or storing alts with billions of explo/bio data to insta-win elections.
All right, let's move on.
Why do you think it's fair not to let your enemy punish you ? At his convenience.
P.S. Although after saying that Chess is not a battle I got sad ...
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I'm having a lot of trouble with the way your word things, and the general use of English. The more this goes on, the less sure I am about what you mean when you say things.
"Why do you think it's fair not to let your enemy punish you?"
Not sure what this means. But I'm going to just use key words in there to make a response.
The enemy SHOULD be able to fight back. If you're undermining a system, the players of the controlling power should be able to come and directly fight back.
If you're undermining a system in solo, the enemy players can not come and directly fight back.
I'll try to write more simply. Sorry for the translation but I don't want to offend anyone.
I always see and think that people encouraging everyone to play open game are trying to deceive others as they only look at it when it is convenient for them.
They don't want their FC's destroyed when they are asleep they are not asking for it. When it's convenient for them they switch to solo mode and farm materials but will never admit to it etc.
Maybe it's just my fantasies but I'm hard to convince that it's not true.
I love Elite, I want to play it in those modes when it suits me. I believe that others also have the right to play the game as it suits them. I do not have the right to demand that other people are restricted in their game !
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I will agree with you on that. Chess is fighting, to win that chess match. It is an outsmart, and out maneuver your opponent type of game. It is not a game of bash someone over the head with a mace or club to win the match.
I think alot of OOPP players really just want to try and blockade the star systems they want to control and then kaboom all other Cmdr's not on their team.
PP 2.0 remains an unknown. Hopefully Fdev gives open players and solo players lots of things to do, using both the outsmart and fight types of activities.
I keep telling you that FCs can not be destroyed.
I have no problem if people want to go collect mats in solo, that's the irrelevant.
If people want to do Powerplay the should have to be opened.