Paint, paintjobs, Livery and Decals discussion thread.

I want the paintjob on my ships to show -

  • More, LOTS more wear, grime and chipping!

    Votes: 77 64.7%
  • LESS wear. I want it pristine!

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • It's fine as it is.

    Votes: 26 21.8%
  • I don't care

    Votes: 11 9.2%

  • Total voters
    119
  • Poll closed .
1. Sells paintjobs for real money.
2. Says seeing the paintjobs isn't actually high priority
3. ???
4. Profit

Good Point

There are some good and available artists on this side of the wall.......FD could even sell user generated skins from their website, maybe offer the artist 10-20% on each skin sale..............
 
Good Point

There are some good and available artists on this side of the wall.......FD could even sell user generated skins from their website, maybe offer the artist 10-20% on each skin sale..............


This. See how much money is generated by TF2 and their hats, for example.
 
Good Point

There are some good and available artists on this side of the wall.......FD could even sell user generated skins from their website, maybe offer the artist 10-20% on each skin sale..............

I'd do it for the hell of it, I'd be doing it anyway.
I've spent massive amounts of time doing this sort of thing in the past and I enjoy it, so why not make use of my time FD?
 
Decals?

So, how fast after we achieve a new rank should the decal for it become available? It sure isnt within 30 minutes because I just "ranked up" in one category and I can't see the decal for it. I'm missing other ones I'm entitled to as well, which I've ticketed.

It's vanity, I know, but if I've earned it I should be able to paint it on my ship.
 
seriously? this didn't work and still dosn't work? FD's only fluff in their store to use in game is paintjob that you cant see becuase there is no ability to see an external view of your ship and even though someon ELSE can see it you cant by looking out of the window? If this is true... oh man, come on FD this really is pathetic :(
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
What rear view mirror ? ;)

Oh that one we've been requesting since beta ? The one that makes total sense from a combat perspective ? Call it rear view and lateral cam... you know like they had on most modern cars in the early 21st century !

Oh, you mean like the rear laser I had on my ships in Frontier......ooh yeah, i forgot about those.
 
Hello Commanders!

There is a task in the system to get paintjobs visible when viewed from inside the cockpit. Sorry I don't have an ETA. It's not high priority, but is in the pipe.

why is not a high priority? have you ammended the shop to state clearly that these skins are NOT visible to you the buyer as there is no external view and they are not visible by looking out of the window or added the line that they are ONLY visible to other players, not to you other than in outfitting? that woudl seem the least you coudl do to, you know, comply with our basic sale of goods act! A full refund offered from the same page woudl also be a nice gesture, given you have no plan to fix it yet.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
Out of curiosity, was the lack of visibility of the paintjob from within the ship ever addressed by FDev? I understand this isn't exactly the highest priority (personally I'm only slightly bothered by this :)) but it would still be nice to have it properly implemented, especially in the Asp.

AS this is FD's next source of income, you would think it would be a priority since people aren't buying because they cannot view their ship.

I want to know the reason why an outside view was never implemented
 
is anyone surprised that FD did half a job of this?

They did half a job of everything else - it just fits the company.

Except sound - that was a good job.
 
AS this is FD's next source of income, you would think it would be a priority since people aren't buying because they cannot view their ship.

Really? Or is this just something you made up on the fly?

I want to know the reason why an outside view was never implemented

Originally it was deemed to have some combat advantage, though I don't understand how.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
seriously? this didn't work and still dosn't work? FD's only fluff in their store to use in game is paintjob that you cant see becuase there is no ability to see an external view of your ship and even though someon ELSE can see it you cant by looking out of the window? If this is true... oh man, come on FD this really is pathetic :(

It's not a priority when they're taking your money.
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
Really? Or is this just something you made up on the fly?



Originally it was deemed to have some combat advantage, though I don't understand how.

Yes really or are you and FD both so out of touch about how ingame stores work and how many people are willing to pay for cosmetics? H1Z1 are basing their whole sales on cosmetics alone so yes, the priority of any company is future sales - how are you not aware of this and how easy do you think it's going to be to fix the cockpit view? I'm pretty sure a 3pp view wouldn't be too hard too and then guess what - people might start buying cosmetics!

As to the reason they gave that sounds ridiculous. They do realise they added a hud and and a radar right? That when your over a kilometer away the 3pp view isn't really going to help and in fact, I'd argue it's a hindrance to combat since you want to be aiming down your sights.

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is anyone surprised that FD did half a job of this?

They did half a job of everything else - it just fits the company.

Except sound - that was a good job.

No No they had a meeting and decided to reduce them to crap so it fits in with everything else - there's a thread about it too.
 
is anyone surprised that FD did half a job of this?

They did half a job of everything else - it just fits the company.

Except sound - that was a good job.

was...until 1.1 hit.

when you half bake everything, you can't have a single one nice working thing so they had to break it too to get it "in line " with the rest


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seriously? this didn't work and still dosn't work? FD's only fluff in their store to use in game is paintjob that you cant see becuase there is no ability to see an external view of your ship and even though someon ELSE can see it you cant by looking out of the window? If this is true... oh man, come on FD this really is pathetic :(

Have you actually played this game? You see your ship from multiple angles everytime you use outfitting. In order to apply a skin you have to look at the ship. I too was disappointed when I realized the ASP skin wasn't applied, fortunately I'm a 36 year old man, not a demanding child like some on this forum. It's just a small glitch guy's, it affects only one ship at the moment. Not a priority in the slightest
 
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Yes really or are you and FD both so out of touch about how ingame stores work ... !

If you read my other threads, you'll see that I'm more than willing to throw money at cosmetic items. I also have a great understanding on how MMORPGs, especially the F2P ones, rely on cosmetics and expansions to survive and how they get players to part with their cash.

For E|D, I have stated many times that an outside view is a good thing, but I have also read threads where people have spent lots of cash on skins, already, even without an outside view. I complained about the flag skins dropping from the shop without warning as I wanted to buy some, even without an outside view. The two things are not mutually exclusive, I think.

However, I also think that E|D dropped the ball, badly, by not stocking the shop with lots and lots of skins for all of the ships, there's a whole bunch of concept artwork in the Newsletters that show off variant skins for Eagles and Anacondas, for example and the big trading ships need some love, for sure. I was also amused to see the jazzy skins that wanted NPCs have, that aren't available to buy, so again there must be things lurking in the code that could be a quick win.

As to the reason they gave that sounds ridiculous. They do realise they added a hud and and a radar right? That when your over a kilometer away the 3pp view isn't really going to help and in fact, I'd argue it's a hindrance to combat since you want to be aiming down your sights.

You're pushing against an open door there, I can't see how say a fixed view slightly above and behind your ship is any worse / better than it is now. Internally, FD must have 'external' camera view in the code, as that's how they do their lovely videos.
 
Hello Commanders!

There is a task in the system to get paintjobs visible when viewed from inside the cockpit. Sorry I don't have an ETA. It's not high priority, but is in the pipe.

Thank you for the honesty, though...

1. Sells paintjobs for real money.
2. Says seeing the paintjobs isn't actually high priority
3. ???
4. Profit


Well, you beat me to it...

This. See how much money is generated by TF2 and their hats, for example.

You can NEVER have enough hats...



Though selling paint jobs, that a player can not see...
Emperors new clothes anyone...


Perhaps they are learning from SC selling you stuff that you can not use, see or even exists yet...


Maybe when you can see your own skin, they will sell more? I suspect we will need a guy with an MBA to work out if my theory makes sense...
 

Jex =TE=

Banned
If you read my other threads, you'll see that I'm more than willing to throw money at cosmetic items. I also have a great understanding on how MMORPGs, especially the F2P ones, rely on cosmetics and expansions to survive and how they get players to part with their cash.

For E|D, I have stated many times that an outside view is a good thing, but I have also read threads where people have spent lots of cash on skins, already, even without an outside view. I complained about the flag skins dropping from the shop without warning as I wanted to buy some, even without an outside view. The two things are not mutually exclusive, I think.

However, I also think that E|D dropped the ball, badly, by not stocking the shop with lots and lots of skins for all of the ships, there's a whole bunch of concept artwork in the Newsletters that show off variant skins for Eagles and Anacondas, for example and the big trading ships need some love, for sure. I was also amused to see the jazzy skins that wanted NPCs have, that aren't available to buy, so again there must be things lurking in the code that could be a quick win.



You're pushing against an open door there, I can't see how say a fixed view slightly above and behind your ship is any worse / better than it is now. Internally, FD must have 'external' camera view in the code, as that's how they do their lovely videos.

I have no clue what FD are thinking but just because you can get a bunch of guys that cane code video games does not mean they know everything about the market (and that is clearly proven over and over). No 3rd person view has already stopped sales as people have testified here. Someone said you can view them in the hangar, weeeee great seeing it from fixed angles and misses the point of skin entirely.

In fact, the no 3rd person thing is an exceptionally HUGE blunder on their part - what other game doesn't have a 3rd person but allows you to buy skins. If Euro Truck had no 3rd person there's no way I'd buy a skin pack. Not only that, but you've just also destroyed marketing for your game in video and pictures. How many times have you wanted to take a picture of your ship with a cool background? Can't do that and those lack of pictures don't make it onto the internet and don't advertise your game more. This is clueless on a grand scale.

Aren't their videos rendered?
 
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