Who says that?
Ganker wannabe.
All legit reasons but you missed one...(shoot on sight for kill warrant scanner).I'm sure some players consider me a griefer. I suspect that's how it starts. Rationalizations..
"I'm not wanted"
"I don't carry notoriety"
"... never over 1.. "
"He deserved it"
"He's wanted or he was last week"
"He refused my help!!!"
"I dont like his avatar"
"he uses a docking computer"
"he bumped me coming out of the station!"
I hope I don't wake up in a year and find myself clubbing noobs like the worst of em. For now I'm still Lawful Good ... at least Chaotic Good
Open is a Griefer Heaven.
Because FD has so far Failed to actually provide a Proper Crime and Punishment System that would provide any actual Risk to Griefing.
Do you know why some Hardcore PvP Games have far less Griefers then ED Open ?
Because there if you Murder Someone you cant just Park the Weapon with which you Murdered Someone in a Station and go about your Business Normally again after 5 Minutes.
You wanna be an Outlaw who Randomly Murders People ?
Well then you can be that. Just then YOU ARE an Outlaw and will be Treated as such for pretty long because becoming Clean again is quite an effort.
Dont know what Head Space is supposed to be referring to.
But Yep. I am Playing Solo and Open.
I am already Part of a Private Group
Thanks for the offer tough.
And No. I dont think of PKs as Griefers either.
Neither do I think that Robbers and Pirates are Griefers.
RPKs however are.
Gankers are.
And Sealclubbers are.
If you Kill someone Randomly without there being a Solid Reason or Requirement to Kill him.
Then you are Killing him because you have Fun when he Suffers.
Hence your a Griefer.
If you Kill someone by Ganking him with several People or a Vastly Superior Ship. Then you dont Kill him for any actual Gain to your own Game nor are you doing PvP.
You are Griefing because you have Fun when he Suffers.
And if you Kill Noobs which have neither the Skills nor the Ships to Provide you with any Reward or Challenge then you are in Fact a Griefer as well.
Because Obviously once more your Fun is the Demise of someone else.
I can be Friends with PvPers.
And even with Pirates. (Which is not Surprising because in many Games I was one lol)
But not with Gankers.
Sorry.
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WorldsGreatestForumDad
Banned
Is this like a AA meeting, Okay Im a griefer. What am I supposed to do now? What are the 12 steps?
Do I get a monthly coin? Do I get custody of the kids when its over?
I need to know these things.
Warg I'm insulted Phisto made your list and I didn't. He's not even really a ganker at the moment. Just for that I hope Krash ganks you.
EDIT: ganks you again.
EDIT: ganks you again.
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She already ganked me.
You didn't make the list because you've not posted here in several days.
I've updated the list because of this oversight.
I'm glad you're back.
Bingo. Cue the, "but, but, bad gankabois and gankagals only attack weak targets b/c they can't do real PvP"
Misguided but a fun/variety break from ganking ;-)
Open is a Griefer Heaven.
Because FD has so far Failed to actually provide a Proper Crime and Punishment System that would provide any actual Risk to Griefing.
Do you know why some Hardcore PvP Games have far less Griefers then ED Open ?
Because there if you Murder Someone you cant just Park the Weapon with which you Murdered Someone in a Station and go about your Business Normally again after 5 Minutes.
You wanna be an Outlaw who Randomly Murders People ?
Well then you can be that. Just then YOU ARE an Outlaw and will be Treated as such for pretty long because becoming Clean again is quite an effort.
Dont know what Head Space is supposed to be referring to.
But Yep. I am Playing Solo and Open.
I am already Part of a Private Group
Thanks for the offer tough.
And No. I dont think of PKs as Griefers either.
Neither do I think that Robbers and Pirates are Griefers.
RPKs however are.
Gankers are.
And Sealclubbers are.
If you Kill someone Randomly without there being a Solid Reason or Requirement to Kill him.
Then you are Killing him because you have Fun when he Suffers.
Hence your a Griefer.
If you Kill someone by Ganking him with several People or a Vastly Superior Ship. Then you dont Kill him for any actual Gain to your own Game nor are you doing PvP.
You are Griefing because you have Fun when he Suffers.
And if you Kill Noobs which have neither the Skills nor the Ships to Provide you with any Reward or Challenge then you are in Fact a Griefer as well.
Because Obviously once more your Fun is the Demise of someone else.
I can be Friends with PvPers.
And even with Pirates. (Which is not Surprising because in many Games I was one lol)
But not with Gankers.
Sorry.
Open isn't "griefer heaven." That kind of hyperbole is what I mean by giving them your head space. Folks are so afraid of "griefers" they let their thought process and actions be influenced too much. Reel it back in. Get some self-esteem and self confidence. They will only ruin your game if you let them.
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It remains very much a non-problem. Not very many people are into PvP and even in high traffic areas the amount of people affected is very small.
Go where?
[puts the little cheese in front of the mouse hole, hides behind the couch, and waits...]
"griefer heaven" is an oxymoron. Maybe he meant "haven" i.e. sanctuary?
I don't think so, but perhaps he'll come back and elaborate.
I put ants in spider webs as a kid...
Phisto, please lay some Flaming Elmo on her. I would but currently on my phone.
For me the problem with ganking isn't the rebuy.
I can afford about 100 rebuys right now.
Flat out PvP against another player, with only the rebuy, would be entertaining.
The problem is rolling back to the port with 1 million in bounties and then gank.
The problem is taking 20 minutes to catch up to my buddy only gank.
The problem is finding gold, platinum, and unobtainium on a planet's surface and being curious about what it will fetch at market when gank.
Once things are engineered and I've got a billion credits none of those things will matter.
Right now, a gank can really be annoying.
I can afford about 100 rebuys right now.
Flat out PvP against another player, with only the rebuy, would be entertaining.
The problem is rolling back to the port with 1 million in bounties and then gank.
The problem is taking 20 minutes to catch up to my buddy only gank.
The problem is finding gold, platinum, and unobtainium on a planet's surface and being curious about what it will fetch at market when gank.
Once things are engineered and I've got a billion credits none of those things will matter.
Right now, a gank can really be annoying.
Thats what modes are for. Or buddies helping you. Sent you a friend invite by the way.
I figured.
Lure people into a trap - have others do the killing.
Its a pattern we've all seen before.