Patch / Update? all I see is tumbleweed

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Why should anybody of FDev reply here? What are the consequences of ignoring the forums? None, if you ask me. The more vocal and concerned community in the forums is only a small part of the active players. I watch this forums since I have the game (not very long, around 2 months now). I even participate from time to time, but I am about to give up to think about the game, or thinking of suggestions. All things here are just ignored. And why not? No consequences at all. Many here post angry or disappointed views. But they still play, at least most of them say they play, and they still buy things from the Livery store. All is well, from FDev's point of view.

What would bring a strong and fast response would be refusing to play, and more important, refusing to buy anything. No chance for this to happen. So they string us along with promises from time to time, and that's it.

The posters here (not including me, or only in a very small part) are all very interested in the game. But all I see are always the same people posting, discussing, (constructively) criticizing the game and making suggestions. I estimate there are around 50-100 very active long time members here posting often, and again 200-300 different players posting from time to time. This is less than 10% of the player base (around 7000 according to the last Steam charts, and this does not include people like me playing without Steam). Lets say that probably even less than 5% of all the players post here. Why should they react?

I have thought of posting several suggestions - but I will not take the time to do it. All the things posted are discussed here - by less than 5% of the players, and I am sure they all are completely ignored by FDev. They do not even read the threads, I think. No consequences, remember?

Bug fixes - the idea of 'voting for bugs' is just a clever plan to 'pacify the masses' here. What else should it bring? More attention to a bug? It is and remains FDevs responsibility alone to decide which bugs they fix. And looking at the last few weeks they have decided. So they can live perfectly without communicating, and they earn enough money without the need to fix any bugs. Why should they act differently? The 'professional pride' to have a program (or game) mostly bug free and working as intended is dead long since. Not only here.

The only thing of (rather massive) value these forums have is the help content and the willingness of experienced player to help others. This is the only reason I am reading the forums here. I would have given up weeks before without the hints here...

So - better play as long as it makes fun, and forget FDev. Forget about the bugs - I just avoid them by not doing a lot of so called 'content' which is buggy, not working or just not designed well to spare me the aggravation. And at some point in the future I fully expect to lose interest, and then, without regret I will - maybe - play the game every other week for a few hours. We will see...
(And no, you can't have my things :p)

I wish i could post this on the top of every thread. You just nail it here: from their perspective, it's a win win situation.

"Who cares if people stop playing now or are bothered by bugs. They'll likely give us money again down the line when we finally release the spacelegs. Not to mention all the new people coming in, and the hardcore guys who believe that Elite is the best game since Pong who'll keep buying paintjobs."

Frontier are a for profit company, and they can rely on a community of players who will keep the game alive no matter how slow, poor, bug-ridden and half-baked the development is. This is why they could say: "wait 18 months of radio silence peeps, the future will be EXCITING!!". Any other game would be doomed. Not Elite. For as long as people are happy circumnavigating barren planets in SRVs, the game will not die. Nor evolve.
 
Why is it that the community have to stand in and suggest that Fdev are fixing bugs? Why is it that the community have to stand in and state that an announcement is coming this month? Where are the community managers? They are employed to communicate with the community, however and all too often, it ends up the community trying to reassure the community.

I've been around since the inception of ED and it really is time something changed, I thank the community for their optimism and insite, however I'd love to hear from the staff.

I think you make an excellent point.
 
Why is it that the community have to stand in and suggest that Fdev are fixing bugs? Why is it that the community have to stand in and state that an announcement is coming this month? Where are the community managers? They are employed to communicate with the community, however and all too often, it ends up the community trying to reassure the community.

I've been around since the inception of ED and it really is time something changed, I thank the community for their optimism and insite, however I'd love to hear from the staff.

This is just so accurate! so so accurate imagine if you called up for a problem with your internet connection and it was just other customers going "hey guys don't worry it'll probably get fixed......"
 
Thank you - I think it speaks volumes, I've noticed another thread on the topic has kicked off, so hopefully a community manager might make an effort to give us some solid feedback.

Maybe a funny pic will attract more attention?
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Why is it that the community have to stand in and suggest that Fdev are fixing bugs? Why is it that the community have to stand in and state that an announcement is coming this month? Where are the community managers? They are employed to communicate with the community, however and all too often, it ends up the community trying to reassure the community.

I've been around since the inception of ED and it really is time something changed, I thank the community for their optimism and insite, however I'd love to hear from the staff.
Community managers are much like Satan in that they do their best work when their very existence is questioned.
 
Look how half-baked some aspects of the new mining are... When is that going to get "microwaved" so it's done?
 
Why should anybody of FDev reply here? What are the consequences of ignoring the forums? None, if you ask me. The more vocal and concerned community in the forums is only a small part of the active players. I watch this forums since I have the game (not very long, around 2 months now). I even participate from time to time, but I am about to give up to think about the game, or thinking of suggestions. All things here are just ignored. And why not? No consequences at all. Many here post angry or disappointed views. But they still play, at least most of them say they play, and they still buy things from the Livery store. All is well, from FDev's point of view.

What would bring a strong and fast response would be refusing to play, and more important, refusing to buy anything. No chance for this to happen. So they string us along with promises from time to time, and that's it.

The posters here (not including me, or only in a very small part) are all very interested in the game. But all I see are always the same people posting, discussing, (constructively) criticizing the game and making suggestions. I estimate there are around 50-100 very active long time members here posting often, and again 200-300 different players posting from time to time. This is less than 10% of the player base (around 7000 according to the last Steam charts, and this does not include people like me playing without Steam). Lets say that probably even less than 5% of all the players post here. Why should they react?

I have thought of posting several suggestions - but I will not take the time to do it. All the things posted are discussed here - by less than 5% of the players, and I am sure they all are completely ignored by FDev. They do not even read the threads, I think. No consequences, remember?

Bug fixes - the idea of 'voting for bugs' is just a clever plan to 'pacify the masses' here. What else should it bring? More attention to a bug? It is and remains FDevs responsibility alone to decide which bugs they fix. And looking at the last few weeks they have decided. So they can live perfectly without communicating, and they earn enough money without the need to fix any bugs. Why should they act differently? The 'professional pride' to have a program (or game) mostly bug free and working as intended is dead long since. Not only here.

The only thing of (rather massive) value these forums have is the help content and the willingness of experienced player to help others. This is the only reason I am reading the forums here. I would have given up weeks before without the hints here...

So - better play as long as it makes fun, and forget FDev. Forget about the bugs - I just avoid them by not doing a lot of so called 'content' which is buggy, not working or just not designed well to spare me the aggravation. And at some point in the future I fully expect to lose interest, and then, without regret I will - maybe - play the game every other week for a few hours. We will see...
(And no, you can't have my things :p)
You make some good points. Just a note about steam charts, the 7000 are people who are playing at the same time (=concurrent players). Unless you assume everyone plays 24/7 in order to be active the real number is more like 150.000 to 250.000.
 

Lestat

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Hi Fdev,

It's been a while since the announced big thing in Xmas 2020. As part of that announcement of 'something coming eventually' you mentioned some updates along the way.

Well now we have the issue tracker which really helps identify some of the most wanted fixes for those most annoying bugs affecting your player base, that includes me :)

Thing is though, it's all gone quiet, much like the Thargoid and Guardian 'storyline'. I was wondering if you could just address some of the bugs while we wait for xmas 2020?

If you don't have anything for us then please just say that, really don't think I can stand to hear another 'we will fix something eventually' news story.

How about set a date for a patch? No need to commit to what it will contain, just that we will get something on a particular date. Something to spur us on... not sure about other players but I feel like we have been abandoned for an unknown duration...

Many thanks

Nutter

o7
Question you should ask your self. Do you want them to add something Finished or unfinished?
 
Why is it that the community have to stand in and suggest that Fdev are fixing bugs? Why is it that the community have to stand in and state that an announcement is coming this month? Where are the community managers? They are employed to communicate with the community, however and all too often, it ends up the community trying to reassure the community.

I've been around since the inception of ED and it really is time something changed, I thank the community for their optimism and insite, however I'd love to hear from the staff.

I'm sorry, but you signed the Official Secrets Act when you bought this product.
 
At least they could reply to one of these threads...

They are really completely ignoring the community for now. No idea what they're up to.
I don't want to know what's coming. I want to be surprised.
Besides if they did release what was coming. The crying would be heard from here to beagle point.
It's not a community game, it's FD's. Deal with it.
Most of the forums ideas are crap. I'm glad they look but don't have to listen.
 
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