People using hacks
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maybe you can try to turn your brain ON.
if you searched so carefully, you might now be aware on HOW those hacks operate.
namely, they get past the 3 layer obfuscation in order to freeze and / or modify variables value within the computer's memory.
that being said, tell me that it is harder to modify the variable in charge of ship's max velocity when you can already change the one responsible for the shield value, the weapons damage, the jump range etc...
THINK for 2 sec please
The problem is that it's also common practice to ignore cheats entirely. And although we'd all hope that they would carry out bans for cheating I haven't heard of this happening.
that's the result of poor design decision, they were made aware from the start on how easy it is to hack games based on P2P, they still choose it anyway.
this show how much they care about their legit player.
I think the banhammer may be swung after the first round of expansions have been sold. At the moment most publicly available reports indicate the vast bulk of cheating is happening in solo. The lack of video evidence of systematic cheating indicates it is only affecting a very small number of players. If it becomes prevalent then the banhammer will be swung sooner.
Perception matters more than absolute numbers. They also need to balance your point regarding sales against how many might not purchase the expansions (or even the base game) because of the perception that they are doing nothing.
FDEV stated that they will take actions against cheaters and exploiters and always told us to report the player in question so they can take care of it. They didn't tell us WHEN. I don't know IF they will be true to their word and swing the banhammer, but I do know that swinging it too early would only cause harm and lead to better cheats used by more people. So the best thing we can do is report the players and hope that FDEV knows what they are doing.
How do you know?
Have you even READ what I said?
Trouble is we aren't clear on what is a cheat or exploit. The obvious item at the moment is the shield regeneration 'tactic', where FD have stated that it's a placeholder due to shields not regenerating in SC and they want to change it. That doesn't make it clear that FD consider abusing it a cheat. There needs to be some communication in this area as it's bubbling up and threatens to overshadow 1.3.
It doesn't change the fact, that there is no way of fixing it.
The so called banhammer would only be effective if it scares people off, as the root of the issue cannot be fixed.
Now from what I 've read, those hacks are not detectable, as they seem to only alter the client.
So how do you swing a banhammer, if you cannot detect these hackers?
It is the same problem that another game I'm playing right now is having...Clash of Clans, with a rising number of botters.
They solely rely on videos, sent by players because there is no other way to actually prove any EULA violation.
That's not true, there are lots of ways of making p2p work in this situation. You could use a centralised arbiter for occasional confirmation, you could use peer verification, you could use peer agreement, and there are other methods and variations on the theme.
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Which unfortunately means that anything other than 1v1 PvP is effectively dead until they make the fix. Not a great situation.
Common sense should really apply here. Shields magically regenerating due to a transition in game mode is clearly not intended behaviour. Using it as a tactic to gain an advantage is an exploit, albeit one that would be hard for Frontier to detect. The same goes for magical transportation to your wingman's position: not consistent within the context of the game's universe, so that would also be considered an exploit. You may or may not get punished for using them. It's up to you as to whether you take the risk.
I'm really not convinced that these particular cases require a statement from Frontier to clarify them.
It clearly is intended behaviour because the devs have stated that they coded it this way. Another placeholder rather than shield regeneration working at a normal rate in supercruise. This didn't matter before Wings but now it does. They do need to make a call because right now it's ambiguous, but more importantly if they are going to label it as an exploit then they should do so to stop people from abusing it so freely.
Everything is detectable, at least in open play.
"This hack is 100% undetectable" - The guy who wants to make money with it.
what i´ve seen so far:
- invincible shields
- invincible hulls
- instant shield regeneration after shield drop
- speed hack (vulture crossing a combat zone in a second....several times...shooting players.....he left as 4-5 guys instantly hunted him (me included) dealing some damage every pass of this sucker)
- extreme powerful weapons, dropping shields in fractions of seconds
facts:
- there are cheats in use
- p2p is the root of this evil
- FD must do something, not only because of the cheats, but also because of the exploits in the game (combat logging, instant wing shield regen)
- invincible shields
- invincible hulls
- instant shield regeneration after shield drop
- speed hack (vulture crossing a combat zone in a second....several times...shooting players.....he left as 4-5 guys instantly hunted him (me included) dealing some damage every pass of this sucker)
- extreme powerful weapons, dropping shields in fractions of seconds
facts:
- there are cheats in use
- p2p is the root of this evil
- FD must do something, not only because of the cheats, but also because of the exploits in the game (combat logging, instant wing shield regen)
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