Peops who log off during a dual!!

They need a slap full stop, happened a few times now!! I like a bit of piracy you know blow peops up steal there cargo.

But hey guess what when you nearly destroy them they log off!!!

Open play is flawed this needs fixing like many others things.

Rant over

Bosh

Maybe he just needed to go to the toilet really badly?
 
For some people, open play is meant for cooperation, not competition. Is that not also a valid point of view?

So co-operate by guarding your trading mules in fighters for a cut of the profits while the pirates try to pick you apart. In this scenario, everyone wins. Fun is had for everyone.
 
For some people, open play is meant for cooperation, not competition. Is that not also a valid point of view?

Piracy is not competition. It's also not "PvP" in the traditional "duel" sense. It is, by its very design, someone trying to force another player into abandoning (parts of) his cargo -- but this is not "griefing" either, it is part and parcel of Elite : Dangerous. The sheer size of the galaxy, combined with the protection provided by stations (and the option to go "Solo" for the time it takes to get to some other trade route) makes it next to impossible to "serial pirate" a trader.

Actually, unless your group has explicitly agreed to not do player-on-player piracy (which, sorry Moebius, I think is a grave mistake potentially unbalancing the game), you have absolutely no point to complain if this should happen in "group" play either, because it is part of the game.

Yes, a well-armed pirate attacking a Type 9 is not "fair" in the sense of "even ground". It's not intended to be. The balancing factor are the relative scarcity of pirates versus the insane profits the Type does reap with each run.

And yes, there is very good reason to attack player traders instead of NPCs. NPCs often carry low-value goods, like clothing, grain, HE suits, the like. Players pretty much always carry high-value goods, like precious metals, slaves, tobacco etc., or even rare commodities.

So please make a very clear distinction: A player pirate Commander certainly is a "bad guy" from the point of view of your Commander.

But the player at his computer is neither a "bad guy", nor a "griefer". He's playing the game, just the same as you are, and he doesn't need your consent any more than you need his. You are there, so it's OK to attack you, for whatever reason.
 
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Let's make something clear, from now on. A few points need to be made for all who wish to post in this thread:

The 15 second timer currently does not work. It only shows up if you try to exit the game in the normal way. If you kill the process of the game, your ship disappears instantly. So NO, the 15 second timer is available, but not working as intended. Stop using it as an argument, since it isn't.

The 15 second timer does work exactly as intended. I've used it, it says something like "your ship is in danger you have to wait 15 seconds before logging out", and you might have to click another confirmation so its actually more like 16 or 17 seconds. It is a game mechanic introduced and endorsed by the game developers, its use is acceptable. You have no right to tell people to stop using it as an argument, get back in your box.

People yanking the power cord or hurling their computer out the window is a separate issue. But who can honestly say they get through a day without being randomly disconnected from the game several times? What is going to happen if my ship persists after a disconnect during an approach to a space station (hard object), during docking, near a landing pad, near a station entrance (psychotic object), while fuel scooping or in a fight with an AI? I'll log back in to a pile of smoking wreckage and a multi-million credit damage bill, through no fault of my own. There is no way the community is going to put up with that going on all the time.

So, basically my advice to PVP fanbois, thieves, vandals and miscellaneous antisocial personalities is that some people want to fight you, and some people don't. If someone jumps out, logs off or hurls their computer out the window to avoid a fight, move on and find someone who does want a scrap. There are, apparently, plenty of you.
 
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First of all, who are peops? Sounds like an egyptian pharaoh to me. Then...what is a dual? I dont wanna be in a dual with you, im really sorry, it sounds naughty.
Last but not least: I do have a really terrible internet connection that is not fixable. Since they stole pure solo mode from us who wanted it i think it would be rather harsh to punish people for losing their internet connection, which happens to me at least 5 to 10 times a day.
 
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