I was replying to a post by someone saying with the introduction of squadrons he would miss the current conversations he has in discord, which as I've pointed out he can still have.
Anything else only exists in your head.
Petition To Allow CMDRs To Join Multiple Squadrons
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I was replying to a post by someone saying with the introduction of squadrons he would miss the current conversations he has in discord, which as I've pointed out he can still have.
Anything else only exists in your head.
Counterpoint: wars, alliances, and such are not a thing. AND being on both sides wouldn't matter anyway.
No its about being able to identify friend and foe on sight.
And that is the biggest problem with squadrons. FDev is competing with discord here, so they need to deliver something where people look at what they've been doing for the past three years and say, yeah this is better than discord. If squadrons has any problems where the solution is to use discord, they've lost. If I have to use discord for this one (not very rare) case, why not just use it for everything.
That's easy already... blue square = friend. Orange square = potential foe. Red square = confirmed foe.
/Signed
I thought the idea for squadrons as a ways and means for people to work towards common goals and communicate effectively
I thought there might have been CG squadrons where people could join,
Share tips and locations as well as find Cmdrs to wing up on an Ad Hoc basis, just as there being Squadron for events and expeditions to build on that sense of community
As well as a Cmdr belonging to a Faction/Power squdron and or a Service squadron like the Fuel Rats and the like.
Joining communities and keeping in the information loop
I thought the idea for squadrons as a ways and means for people to work towards common goals and communicate effectively
I thought there might have been CG squadrons where people could join,
Share tips and locations as well as find Cmdrs to wing up on an Ad Hoc basis, just as there being Squadron for events and expeditions to build on that sense of community
As well as a Cmdr belonging to a Faction/Power squdron and or a Service squadron like the Fuel Rats and the like.
Joining communities and keeping in the information loop
You bring up an interesting point here... someone a few hours ago was asking to be able to see a given player's entire allegiance history. What happens if someone is both a fuel rat and a member of a BGS group, and they get assigned to refuel someone from a competing BGS group? Would the one asking for fuel demand to be assigned a different rat?
If they called the fuel rats they won’t be in much position to negotiate.
It all depends on how serious they are about allegiances. Death before dishonor and all that. I mean, in real life people have refused medical help because it came from the wrong kind of human being. So in a game where it's all made up, I'd expect this to be more prevalent.
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However, you can have multiple jobs and belong to multiple organisations and clubs. The question is, is the purpose of squadrons only to fulfill combat scenarios or is it meant to be used in a wider perspective to group together players with other goals? Deep space miners, explorers, traders, etc. Perhaps there's a trading company and another mining company, and one player would like to belong to both depending on what they're playing at the moment. Now, the problem is rather that having two or three jobs is possible, you can't have conflict of interest where you work for two competing companies. And that perhaps could be solved with some "category" selection, like "Combat", "Trading", "Exploration", ... and you can't belong to two of the type.
^yes, sounds like some people are conflating squadron membership with activity of the day. It could be useful, however, to have an 'allied/affiliated' option to allow people to temporarily (at guild leader/officer discretion) join a squadron chat/comm during a session without being a full member - so you may have a dozen X squadron members working towards something, with some allied individuals from Q, Z and R squadron all pitching in, temporarily (session) part of chats, comm, etc. but still showing their own squadron tags.
Discord is obviously a lot better since you can belong to multiple groups in there, which you can't in squadrons, so squadrons will never be able to compete.
Then that’s on them. Fuel Rats are an NPO of sorts. They go out of their way to help others. If that help is refused, then they can well call in a friend of their own or face a Rebuy. I doubt it’s any skin off their backs. On a side note, when Fuel Rat System was under assault a massive number of players from all over the place joined together and helped save their minor faction from losing control. Discord was a part of helping to spread the word and organize people throughout. In the future, if squadrons are allowed to interact officially with one another, they could help with things like this in game.
I can be done, or at least attempted. An extreme example is what star citizen did for their built-in voice chat, which (in typical over the top star citizen style) is to hook it up to a webcam and have it figure out your facial expression, so the game can map it on your avatar: if you smile in real life your avatar will smile as well, if you frown it will frown and so on. It's not new (other games have had that for a few years now) and I have no idea if anyone other than youtubers are going to be using it six months from now, but it's a good example of something that Discord doesn't even try to do.
It'll operate as part of the game discord can't really compete with that and doesn't really need to. It'll carry on as a supplemental thing for those who want it much as it is now.
Inara will be the same as its a notice board for current PMF objectives and discussion, in game or out. It's also a handy info resource.
Extra's not replacements.
All I know is that a few years ago when my IRL friends still played ED, I'd try to get them to use the builtin voice chat because IMHO it sounds amazing, but they always went back to discord because it sounded clearer and was also more reliable.
It doesn't really matter, if discord is better or they prefer it for voice chat people will stick with it and use squadrons as well anyway. Choice is good.
No doubt “all of the above” will be my rout.