Petition to bring back the DDF/DDA and get back on track.

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Dude, if you disagree with anyone with more than 5 green pips above their avatar your automatically classed a troll on this forum.

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so you say "no" because you blame the people on the DDF despite having no clue what it is?

My mind is blown!

To answer your question go to the DDA (in the archives) and read up some of the stuff.... in those lists are literally ideas which are golden, fully fleshed out features of complex but logical mechanics, it really is good stuff.

Got any personal favorite ideas you would class worth reading ?
 
I was not privy to the DDF, what is so different about the DDF "game" and the one we ending up with ?

You can still read the archives I think?

The DDF steered the game in the right direction, a true update of the simply amazing Elite games. Now it's veered off from that and is aiming to be far easier to play and less challenging to attract the console $$££€€.

I have trust and faith in the DDF and I'm willing to bet they could get it on track (no, I'm not a member, couldn't afford it at the time) but I think there's utterly zero chance of Frontier and DB listening to us.
 
Dude, if you disagree with anyone with more than 5 green pips above their avatar your automatically classed a troll on this forum.

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Got any personal favorite ideas you would class worth reading ?

No, making comments just to get a reaction is trolling. Go read the DDA and come back later....
 
No, making comments just to get a reaction is trolling. Go read the DDA and come back later....

Didn't expect a reaction. But if you wanna keep reacting I can't stop you. It was never meant to spike people, but like I said if go against anyone with 5 pips below their name your a troll irrespective of what you say.

I went against the grain and now your all jumping down my throat, just like you lot always do.

I asked questions and would like to hear from people who were there when the DDF was being drawn up about their favorite ideas, but yet again I find everyone just being rude and unhelpful.

Go figure, sir.
 
Considering what the most noisy subsection of users ask for on the forum, I'm happy for FD to do their own vision and not make it some semblance of a democracy. If it was, we'd end up with Care Bear Space Trucker 2015. No.

-1 No. It's purpose on the forum would be at best a facade since if FD had any brains they would totally ignore the vast majority of posts on it. And we already have a pointless sub forum for that. "Suggestions"
 
For me our main function is as a sounding board of people who're not afraid of losing their jobs.

'Cept... we've lost our jobs...

It was a good run though.

some of it was fun, tons of it was tedious. well to me anyways.

so i agree with senor ryan, though i am not convinced that FDEV can actually make much use of it, cause

1) the demographic of its participants

2) the somewhat stretched resources at FDEV

hence our (the lovely DDF'ers) slide into obscurity. well there is always the FSD :cool: :cool: :cool:
 
Got any personal favorite ideas you would class worth reading ?

the whole thing is worth a look, from the exploration, the mining mechanics, salvage, smuggling, pirate factions and bases, the reputation system, persistant NPCs which tie into the mission generators, crew in your ships. You could pick any single suggestion and bring it in fully and it would be a great addition.

personally I never looked at any of the competitive PvP elements as none of that interests me. That is not to say there is not good stuff there either, but the stuff which excited me *personally* was the huge amount of PvE content which was hinted at.
 
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Didn't expect a reaction. But if you wanna keep reacting I can't stop you. It was never meant to spike people, but like I said if go against anyone with 5 pips below their name your a troll irrespective of what you say.

I went against the grain and now your all jumping down my throat, just like you lot always do.

I asked questions and would like to hear from people who were there when the DDF was being drawn up about their favorite ideas, but yet again I find everyone just being rude and unhelpful.

Go figure, sir.

sorry, can't give anymore rep to you for now. maybe more "pips" in rep does actually help. may you also become one of the higher caste ;)

edith: lol kinda ninja'd by cody ^^
 
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People aren't allowed to disagree with me? SANDERSON!

I can't disagree with you, the pips won't allow it!

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If those of you that don't know what the DDF is or what's in the DDA would take the time and effort to read the DDA you'd be better equipped to talk about the thread topic.
 
Didn't expect a reaction. But if you wanna keep reacting I can't stop you. It was never meant to spike people, but like I said if go against anyone with 5 pips below their name your a troll irrespective of what you say.

I went against the grain and now your all jumping down my throat, just like you lot always do.

I asked questions and would like to hear from people who were there when the DDF was being drawn up about their favorite ideas, but yet again I find everyone just being rude and unhelpful.

Go figure, sir.

Interestingly, it has been pointed out by backers that wings and pp have roots in dda. Many chose to ignore it because it pretty much invalidates this whole dda=holy reverence. Without specifying what people want from it this whole topic is just a giant "make my dreams come true" request.

Dont say that aloud though, we burn heretics. ;)
 
Considering what the most noisy subsection of users ask for on the forum, I'm happy for FD to do their own vision and not make it some semblance of a democracy.

Well, given that the content of the DDA is STILL FD's design, most of us would agree with you. And it seems like there are large numbers who would like the vision FD laid out in the DDA, rather than the new vision that they seem to be implementing.

Hence this thread.
 
Another 'where's game DDF describes' thread?

No, I don't think FD has abandoned DDF. Yes, they don't implement it 1:1 - because that's what they said when they created that place. Some concepts most likely will change quite radically, and some new ones will come never shown up in DDF.

And no, we don't need to repeat same process over and over again - at least for core gameplay. It's done, sealed. For expansions however I hope they will get some feedback.

Let FD do their jobs with making ED even more awesome, using DDF as one of sources for inspiration.
 
No, Im getting tired of the 'reinvent the wheel' approach to ED game design. Maybe spend a few months putting in a few tried and true staple features that are a good fit for ED and common in the gaming industry. Figure out what it is other games have or do that ED does not and implement it instead of creating new things that look ground breaking on paper, but turn out to be CG's or PP's please. Ive found myself and others not engaged by these kinds of developments.
 
Personally I have no problem with PP at all. it seems to be something close to the devs hearts and I completely respect that. politics and sneaky infighting and all that subterfuge is something many find exciting and if it is what interests the devs then it should be bought in...... hopefully along side some of the other stuff as well however :)
 
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Well, given that the content of the DDA is STILL FD's design, most of us would agree with you. And it seems like there are large numbers who would like the vision FD laid out in the DDA, rather than the new vision that they seem to be implementing.

Hence this thread.

They don't implement some new vision never heard by us. At least there's no evidence for that. Please stop assuming that GC and PP aren't part of game design, it is. Mike Evans three months ago (I think) openly said that DDF is their dream todo list, and he said that if time and money forbids, they will implement most of it.

Please stop spreading idea that FD have changed their mind. They haven't.
 
Another 'where's game DDF describes' thread?

No, I don't think FD has abandoned DDF. Yes, they don't implement it 1:1 - because that's what they said when they created that place. Some concepts most likely will change quite radically, and some new ones will come never shown up in DDF.

And no, we don't need to repeat same process over and over again - at least for core gameplay. It's done, sealed. For expansions however I hope they will get some feedback.

Let FD do their jobs with making ED even more awesome, using DDF as one of sources for inspiration.

The DDA you mean buddy, the DDF has officially been abandoned. I live in hope the DDA hasn't been abandoned.
 
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