Just wanted to say... the SRV wheels look ace lol
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For added immersion you might want to consider trying out voice attack along with the pimax. Personally I prefer my Logitech headphones so run voice attack with the free KICS responses (thanks to Ripley galactic for the free voice responses) makes immersion a whole new experience. It's just a shame pimax in their wisdom decided not to include a discrete mic in the headset
Eno
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as a side note, if anyone is interested in setting up voice attack i will be more than happy to help, will offer this to the pimax vr group for the time being.. have done about 8 setups so far without issues.
voice attack does have a free version you can try out. I think it will give you about 20 commands - the paid version gives you unlimited commands. I think i have about 200 or so, will be happy to help you using either the free one or the paid one.
if you wanted to see VoiceAttack and the Kics responses in action, have a look here (video made by the creator of Kics 4.2): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2hx7FzfjrE and this one is me using it just before i got my Pimax when i was using 3 screens. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YxzuILrWDs&t=11s
regards
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it looks so clean after hours of driving thanks to self cleaning effect of the forceshield..
just FYI in case you are on the fence to join the club 
[video=youtube_share;0OPCZ4tBvAw]https://youtu.be/0OPCZ4tBvAw[/video]
more in this thread:
http://forum.pimaxvr.com/t/comparsion-sde-pimax-4k-vs-htc-vive-vs-oculus-cv1/1989
[video=youtube_share;0OPCZ4tBvAw]https://youtu.be/0OPCZ4tBvAw[/video]
more in this thread:
http://forum.pimaxvr.com/t/comparsion-sde-pimax-4k-vs-htc-vive-vs-oculus-cv1/1989
If it's that simple to produce the above over the Vive and Oculus, then why didn't both HTC and Oculus produce the above quality we see on the Pimax above? There has to be a catch somewhere?
Ok i need som advice i have a hdk 2.0 (if anyone knows anything about them you will know they were, whem i got it 9 months ago, the worst to set up) but am ready for an upgrade i can get a rift or a pimax. I think i can add positional tracking myself using osvr but wondered which would people go for?
Basically if they were the same price and pimax had positinal tracking what would people recommend?
Basically if they were the same price and pimax had positinal tracking what would people recommend?
The Catch is the Pimax can only do 60Hz. I would rather have 90HZ its so much smoother.
i gave a review earlier in this thread and i have a pimax, and have also tried oculus and vive. If you can get positional tracking on the pimax, and to be honest i have lateral drift issues on my pimax then i would be going for that model. even using oculus dev SDK and upping the pixels and the vives room scale. we are talking about elite dangerous here, not a lot of point in room scale to be fair.
the vive is very good at games where you need 360 room scale and want to jump and duck etc - the SDE is bad. probably the worst in all 3 of these headsets, but it has great controllers - most expensive
the oculus is good for a standing or seated game, the controllers were extra and it also has some SDE in game. this can be minimised using various tweaks which can be found on google search. - 2nd most expensive
the pimax has great screens, but the piplay software is pants and it has no positional tracking and the drift which i get is bad, but the visuals are definatly the best out of the 3, there is some ghosting using their latest drivers but the ghosting is minimal using the 1.1.92 driver that uses steamvr's code, the later drivers use pimax's own driver and it is still being tested by the community. and yes it does use 60Htz, but to be fair, i dont know a pc that can run 90Htz in 4k vr at this time? - 1/3 the price of a vive.
I would be interested if you could provide me on 'how' you would setup pimax and positional tracking to reduce lateral drift without using a sensor? im sure the pimax forums group would be keen to know as well.
Eno
the vive is very good at games where you need 360 room scale and want to jump and duck etc - the SDE is bad. probably the worst in all 3 of these headsets, but it has great controllers - most expensive
the oculus is good for a standing or seated game, the controllers were extra and it also has some SDE in game. this can be minimised using various tweaks which can be found on google search. - 2nd most expensive
the pimax has great screens, but the piplay software is pants and it has no positional tracking and the drift which i get is bad, but the visuals are definatly the best out of the 3, there is some ghosting using their latest drivers but the ghosting is minimal using the 1.1.92 driver that uses steamvr's code, the later drivers use pimax's own driver and it is still being tested by the community. and yes it does use 60Htz, but to be fair, i dont know a pc that can run 90Htz in 4k vr at this time? - 1/3 the price of a vive.
I would be interested if you could provide me on 'how' you would setup pimax and positional tracking to reduce lateral drift without using a sensor? im sure the pimax forums group would be keen to know as well.
Eno
Im not sure i could do anything about the drift as thats most likely hardware driven issues with the gyro.
In terms of poisitional im going to see if i can set the pimax up
On osvr but this may not be poasible. If i can then i can use a kinect. But im still 50/50 between pimax and rift.
I think that red might be right. I don't know much but I do know that the pimax developer are releasing new versions of their piplay that supposedly improve the Giro drift issues, and for some they have found improvements, but for me living at the bottom of Nz closest magnetic pole being south! The drift is still bad.
I remember pimax champion crony box discussing trying to get pimax on osvr on a 6 month old thread on the osvr forums I came across.
But if you do manage to get positional tracking with some led's and a PS eye or kinect then please share your findings. Would really appreciate it
Eno
I remember pimax champion crony box discussing trying to get pimax on osvr on a 6 month old thread on the osvr forums I came across.
But if you do manage to get positional tracking with some led's and a PS eye or kinect then please share your findings. Would really appreciate it
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Refresh rate is lower and the LCD panel makes black look like gray.
I will qualify myself up front as a Rift/Touch owner and have not tried other VR hmd's.
I think LukeB and Enopho have both done a nice job in laying out a balanced view of Pimax as it exists at the moment from their individual perspectives. As a seated experience there is compelling evidence that Pimax can offer, those on a restricted budget the opportunity t to taste these types of games at good quality in the general sense of the term.(all caveats accepted.) The chance to experience ED in VR, alone, will be reason enough for many to dismiss the negatives. SDE is often the offered up as the "holy of holys" when talking of Pimax . While that is not without merit, the sde in the Rift and Vive are in no way problematic and soon not even noticed by most. I'm not saying the Pimax doesn't have a better solution on that and crispness, it's is just in no way the deal breaker it is sometimes made out to be.
Here's the quandary as I see it. I like many, spent most of my gaming in sims. I hear often in this forum the statement "I only want VR for ED (or sit down play". If one can live with that and not renege, then Pimax would seem to be well worth considering for those purposes. If it were Jan 2016, I likely would have ordered a Pimax as that was my attitude then. I did not order Touch when it first arrived for similar reasons, but when I did VR morphed into a whole new spectrum. The Vive community was right about the Rift being an incomplete VR experience without "hands in game". I want to stick the rest of my body in there now. Games that I would never have considered playing before now take up half my game time.
Once you get even a Pimax and experience VR your going to want more, if you are any kind of gamer. Consider it training wheels. One might also consider the gpu analogy. You get what you can afford, then upgrade as the infection takes hold and budget allows. One thing seems likely, though-none of these hmds will be your last.
I think LukeB and Enopho have both done a nice job in laying out a balanced view of Pimax as it exists at the moment from their individual perspectives. As a seated experience there is compelling evidence that Pimax can offer, those on a restricted budget the opportunity t to taste these types of games at good quality in the general sense of the term.(all caveats accepted.) The chance to experience ED in VR, alone, will be reason enough for many to dismiss the negatives. SDE is often the offered up as the "holy of holys" when talking of Pimax . While that is not without merit, the sde in the Rift and Vive are in no way problematic and soon not even noticed by most. I'm not saying the Pimax doesn't have a better solution on that and crispness, it's is just in no way the deal breaker it is sometimes made out to be.
Here's the quandary as I see it. I like many, spent most of my gaming in sims. I hear often in this forum the statement "I only want VR for ED (or sit down play". If one can live with that and not renege, then Pimax would seem to be well worth considering for those purposes. If it were Jan 2016, I likely would have ordered a Pimax as that was my attitude then. I did not order Touch when it first arrived for similar reasons, but when I did VR morphed into a whole new spectrum. The Vive community was right about the Rift being an incomplete VR experience without "hands in game". I want to stick the rest of my body in there now. Games that I would never have considered playing before now take up half my game time.
Once you get even a Pimax and experience VR your going to want more, if you are any kind of gamer. Consider it training wheels. One might also consider the gpu analogy. You get what you can afford, then upgrade as the infection takes hold and budget allows. One thing seems likely, though-none of these hmds will be your last.
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I have the Vive and the Pimax. The Pimax's motion tracking issues make it unsuitable for ED - at least on my system. Some others have said the same thing. We were hopeful that NoloVR would sort the issue, however, it appears it hasn't been implemented correctly. At this time, I'd recommend not wasting one's money on the Pimax, at least if ED is the game of choice. Just save up the money for a Vive or Oculus, or wait until the next round.
This is the big issue along with the fact that it uses LCD instead of OLED. LCD doesn't do blacks well at all. They have done a lot of research and a lot of people get motion sickness bad when the frames are under 90 FPS. This I think is the big reason Oculus and the vive stuck with the lower resolution displays. I still think we are at least a generation or two away from having GPU's that will give us smooth 90 FPS 4K VR.
wrong. nether you need perfect black nor you need 90fps to enjoy VR
I own Pimax and can tell you that much ED or not..
Call it a "Happy Accident" but I was one of those who ended up getting the "BE" edition of the headset. Sure, it's lower resolution @ 1440 instead of 4k screen , but it's got a much better refresh rate.
With the combination of 1.2.89 driver and the latest firmware I am seeing less and less drifting in Elite. I also have a button on my HOTAS mapped to re-center, so a quick tap of that every so often is not much of a big deal to me.
I am running with an Nvidia 1060 6GB card and am really enjoying the game in VR.
With the combination of 1.2.89 driver and the latest firmware I am seeing less and less drifting in Elite. I also have a button on my HOTAS mapped to re-center, so a quick tap of that every so often is not much of a big deal to me.
I am running with an Nvidia 1060 6GB card and am really enjoying the game in VR.
Apparantly, the Pimax 4k BE version has refresh rate over 90hz AND uses OLED lenses not LCD!
I don't own one but have noticed this from research. Someone who owns the BE version may comfirm this for us? Also, screen door efffect still better than oculus/vive?
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