Planet coaster for MAC?

[BrandonR]

Running a Mac isn't by mistake. You make a conscious decision to purchase a Mac over a PC, and by doing so you're also shutting yourself out of most games. You shouldn't respond by demanding game developers create a game for Macs.

In the end making computer games is a business, and if the developers and their product planning teams determined creating a Mac version wouldn't be profitable, then how does one argue with that?

 

[Rikkkiee]

If i would buy a pc i don't know what to buy.
I did read somewhere that somebody did buy a PC secondhand and was done for 200,- euro's
But I only can find pc's for almost 1000,- but since if i would buy a pc its only for Planet Coaster ...

Could somebody maybe help. (by the way I'm dutch so secondhand pc's in the USA won't work..)
But maybe somebody can help, I need to besure Planet Coaster will work fine and smooth...
But i don't know how to look for it really,.,. Thank you if somebody will help!

 

[Rikkkiee]

how you build a cheap Planet Coaster windows box? @brett

 

[dalemac89]

If i would buy a pc i don't know what to buy.
I did read somewhere that somebody did buy a PC secondhand and was done for 200,- euro's
But I only can find pc's for almost 1000,- but since if i would buy a pc its only for Planet Coaster ...

Could somebody maybe help. (by the way I'm dutch so secondhand pc's in the USA won't work..)
But maybe somebody can help, I need to besure Planet Coaster will work fine and smooth...
But i don't know how to look for it really,.,. Thank you if somebody will help!

Haha, typical mac user. Says a lot!!

For what it's worth, I run bootcamp on an iMac at work, I just installed steam and PC and ran it for about 3 minutes. It was dog slow and looked like crap, because the built in GPU is terrible.

As others have said, when you decide to pay $$$$ for an underspec'd Apple product, you forgo your right to complain that games are not available on your product.

For the guy who said there are no decent screens 'comatible with windows' what are you talking about? There are literally hundreds of amazing screens. What really matters, is the amount of money you are willing to spend.

 

[Funrir Woulfe]

A lot of this sound like what Apple did is make a Mac version of a Net Box... A Net Box is a PC made with just enough secs to get online... Watch videos though a browser or whatever have you w/ good audio... way underpowered to run anything like a game... also not upgradeable due to the fact there is zero room for upgrades in the case... in other words a small case... a really low end budget PC namely... and well, you get what you paid for =P

I had a Net Box, for about a year or so, saved up for a better machine while using it as I ran into the same problems running games w/ specs beyond what the Net Box could support, and a lot of what people are saying sounds just like that kind of issue here.

 

[Ramm]

If i would buy a pc i don't know what to buy.
I did read somewhere that somebody did buy a PC secondhand and was done for 200,- euro's
But I only can find pc's for almost 1000,- but since if i would buy a pc its only for Planet Coaster ...

Could somebody maybe help. (by the way I'm dutch so secondhand pc's in the USA won't work..)
But maybe somebody can help, I need to besure Planet Coaster will work fine and smooth...
But i don't know how to look for it really,.,. Thank you if somebody will help!

best thing is to find someone who can put a pc together with you (im sure you know someone)

then you find the right parts. I usually use this site to look at price/performance (www.logicalincrements.com)

then you pick a PC according to your budget

I wouldn't cheap out of cpu though because the cpu (processor) is pretty demanded by planet coaster. I usually buy my stuff at a dutch pc store informatique, if you want i could put a pc together on that site for you if its close by. Then you can simply ask your dad or a friend to put it together for you

a mac simply cant play games (unless its browser facebook games). Also mac's are overpriced for their hardware

good luck

 

[KookyB]

If i would buy a pc i don't know what to buy.
I did read somewhere that somebody did buy a PC secondhand and was done for 200,- euro's
But I only can find pc's for almost 1000,- but since if i would buy a pc its only for Planet Coaster ...

Could somebody maybe help. (by the way I'm dutch so secondhand pc's in the USA won't work..)
But maybe somebody can help, I need to besure Planet Coaster will work fine and smooth...
But i don't know how to look for it really,.,. Thank you if somebody will help!

If you are able to build your own pc than you should considering doing so or aksing a friend if he could build you one. For example here is a list that i made that should made it possible to play the most games for the next years in FULL-HD for about 685€! Only thing you need is a monitor (you`ll get some decent ones for about 100€ and a keyboard and mouse) Here is my example list from a german seller...

if you can´t build it it there is the option that build it for you for about 99€ extra:

https://www.mindfactory.de/shopping...221fcedc3c401fda815369633d863047da365f74343da

If you want to save some more bucks you can switch the graphics card (maybe nvidia 1050 ti and maybe lower the ram to 8gb)

or here is an example for an pc that is secound hand refurbished and 1 year warranty... But to play games on this you should switch the power supply ( at least 500w) and the graphics card at least the nvidia gtx1050 ti or amd r470! With this switched you will end up at pricepoint about 450-500€ Here is the Link: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Fujitsu-Espr...233183?hash=item5d6b4e02df:g:yk4AAOSw4GVYOFtl

To sumerize, buy a pc with a cpu from intel (i5 or i7) with 4 cores (8 hyperthreading) and at least 2.8 ghz (higher is more future proof) or if you want an cheaper amd than go at least with the AMD FX Series FX-8350 with 8 cores and minimum 4.00 ghz, the pc should have minimum 8GB-DDR RAM (better 16GB) and a graphics card with at least a nvidia gtx 970/980/1050 Ti/1060/1070 or the amd Radeon rx460/470/480. Power supply should be at least at 450w (more is often a bit better)...CPU/GPU/RAM is are the important things if you want to buy a gaming pc

 

[Ramm]

I wouldn't go with AMD as most games are better optimized for intel. Intel is better anyway. AMD usually has high numbers but I think intel/nvidia outperforms it in benchmarks. Unless you are trying to build and absolute budget PC but then with an AMD you need to upgrade again in a year or so while intel usually lasts longer.

Also dont forget harddrives its missing in the parts in the post above me (I would go with a 250gb ssd and a 1tb or more hdd)

so OP can you tell us which dutch shop you prefer? I can maybe select some parts for you and then we can all see here if thats good for planet coaster

 

[Brett C]

AMD CPU's are decent for desktops and gaming rigs. Granted, i consider them bargain-bin chips due to their extremely low cost vs amount of CPU cores given.

They're awesome workhorse CPU's for servers however (IMO). [big grin]

 

[scaramoosh]

I gave up on building pcs a few years ago tbh. I think windows 8 and 10 are horrible and after trying OS X for the first time ever, I fell in love as it felt so unified and nice like windows used to be.,

However for me I've been building them since around 2001, but ive always had problems and I just cannot be bothered any more. Ram always fails or I have hardware that makes a buzzing noise or capacitors that are resonating.... or a squeeling psu.

My mac is silent and never makes a sound, so much nicer than the headache of dismantling nosing what hardware is making a weird noise.

 

[Ramm]

Maybe we should start a best building buy list for Planet Coaster. I dont know how they usually do this for other games but for some games like gta5 for example you have best building guides.

I think we need to benchmark planet coaster on several machines and then have like a Planet Coaster budget machine, Planet Coaster mediocre machine, Planet Coaster good machine and Planet Coaster monster machine etc. That way people could build a PC that's best for planet coaster according to their budget. I always love that logicalincrements site but i dont see planet coaster in the list, i might ask them if they can add it but i dont know how it works i think alot of people need to benchmark it on the same system for it to be added on there or something

 

[MarkJFerreri]

I also wear blinders, focusing solely on the Apple OS. I currently have an 8 core Mac Pro w/ 64 gig of RAM and aterrabyte of SSD. I play on 2 27" thunderbolt monitors each side, and a 40" 4K central monitor. My audio co0mes out of a pair of 180 watt JBLs. It's a shame that this game can't be played by us. I'm still stuck with Rollercoaster Tycoon (through Aspire) to sate my theme park creativity. How many posts will it take for these folks to find the time to develop this game for the OS X folders to be a profitable adventure?

 

[MineTimelapser]

I also wear blinders, focusing solely on the Apple OS. I currently have an 8 core Mac Pro w/ 64 gig of RAM and aterrabyte of SSD. I play on 2 27" thunderbolt monitors each side, and a 40" 4K central monitor. My audio co0mes out of a pair of 180 watt JBLs. It's a shame that this game can't be played by us. I'm still stuck with Rollercoaster Tycoon (through Aspire) to sate my theme park creativity. How many posts will it take for these folks to find the time to develop this game for the OS X folders to be a profitable adventure?

Maybe once Apple starts taking gaming serious themselves. But in seriousness, Apple's architecture makes it quite difficult to run higher-end demanding games like Planet Coastet well. In the time I owned a Mac myself, I went with the bootcamp solution Apple offers, and it worked just perfectly.

 

[gregorburns]

I currently have an 8 core Mac Pro w/ 64 gig of RAM and aterrabyte of SSD.

But what GPU do you have with that? This is the issue where Mac is concerned. Its not the number of posts and lack of time for the developers to make a port that is the issue, its Apple's extremely outdated support of modern graphics technologies. Mac OS simply does not support some of the complex technology that is being used in Planet Coaster. Even if you have a DX11 (OpenGL equivalent for Mac) compatible graphics card, the Mac OS simply does not support it anyway. [sad]

Of course the developers could have taken the decision to support Mac OS, and make severe compromises to the game, that would ultimately affect the quality of the game, and probably its performance on much better PCs.

 

[scaramoosh]

It's ok now, I played the gam and it sucks, it's nowhere near as good as RCT... feels like they made an SDK rather than a game, there is no management gameplay.

 

[MarkJFerreri]

MarkJFerreri's

But what GPU do you have with that? This is the issue where Mac is concerned. Its not the number of posts and lack of time for the developers to make a port that is the issue, its Apple's extremely outdated support of modern graphics technologies. Mac OS simply does not support some of the complex technology that is being used in Planet Coaster. Even if you have a DX11 (OpenGL equivalent for Mac) compatible graphics card, the Mac OS simply does not support it anyway. [sad]

Of course the developers could have taken the decision to support Mac OS, and make severe compromises to the game, that would ultimately affect the quality of the game, and probably its performance on much better PCs.

MY GPU cards may not be cutting edge, but they're decent. I'm running dual AMD FireproD700's, each with 6 GB of VRAM that are each capable of 2048 streams of data. The bit breadth is 384 bits wide, each. The buss is 264 bits wide and each GPU card will pump out3.5 terrorlkops. Satisfactory, no?

 

[MarkJFerreri]

Bad typos, sorry . . . Teraflops (not terrorlkops) . . . auto spellcheck sucks!)

 

[gregorburns]

Satisfactory, no?

If Apple was to seriously consider upgrading their OpenGL support by their OS, then yes, as I explained above. The developers are not going to spend money and time making a Mac port, when the software can't handle what they want it to do.

Boot camp should work for you.

 

[RockandGrohl]

I also wear blinders, focusing solely on the Apple OS. I currently have an 8 core Mac Pro w/ 64 gig of RAM and aterrabyte of SSD. I play on 2 27" thunderbolt monitors each side, and a 40" 4K central monitor. My audio co0mes out of a pair of 180 watt JBLs. It's a shame that this game can't be played by us. I'm still stuck with Rollercoaster Tycoon (through Aspire) to sate my theme park creativity. How many posts will it take for these folks to find the time to develop this game for the OS X folders to be a profitable adventure?

That's an impressive Mac Pro, but you like many other Mac fanboys who think you have "the ultimate machine" and "surely this will translate over to gaming" fail to realise that you have workstation GPU's in the Mac Pro's which are wholly underpowered and unsuitable for gaming.

You struggle to get good frames in PC. You can add as much SSD storage, RAM capacity and CPU cores as you want, it's a hungry game for GPU too and your system is up to snuff.

I own a Macbook Pro, Hackintosh and have used Mac's steadily for the last 10 years before you doubt the validity of my claims.

 

[RockandGrohl]

MY GPU cards may not be cutting edge, but they're decent. I'm running dual AMD FireproD700's, each with 6 GB of VRAM that are each capable of 2048 streams of data. The bit breadth is 384 bits wide, each. The buss is 264 bits wide and each GPU card will pump out3.5 terrorlkops. Satisfactory, no?

No.

This is a workstation card.

It's architecture benefits 3D design.

Gaming cards are different.

You can have all the Teraflops you want.

Crossfire Firepro's won't work for games as well as a single and much cheaper CPU.

Install Bootcamp and see for yourself.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7603/mac-pro-review-late-2013/10