🐾 Planet Zoo: Africa Pack arriving 22 June 🐾
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I'm always happy to pay for more animals (the SEA pack was my favorite for this reason), but obviously wouldn't be upset if they put a dromedary or something else in a free update. I always buy the DLCs on the first day I can, so remembering which things came with the update vs. DLC always gets meshed(!) together in my mind anyway. I think of my modest DLC payment as helping to pay for all of it in some small way -- not just the animal or piece that gets officially designated as DLC -- since I imagine that's what happens on the accouting side anyway.
But since not everyone takes that approach, I could potentially see this as a strategy going forward, for animals that have similarities to ones already in the game (I don't know enough about the creation process to use words like re-rigs or re-skins. I'm just talking animals that could rightly or wrongly be perceived as that). It could potentially be a great way to please the part of the community that wants more animals, without some of the heightened criticism from people feeling they placed animals in a DLC that are too similar, and without inspiring a backlash or boycott from the part of the community that will only pay for DLCs that include building pieces.
I suppose the inclusion of the african penguin is the strongest argument against the likelihood of them doing this, since some players might feel that's in the same camp as the dromedary. Then again, maybe penguins are more requested or more popular (and thus more likely to be considered payment worthy). Plus the king penguin was in a dlc itself, so there are players that don't have the original yet.
But I could also see the dromedary being saved for a future deserts pack. Frontier has gone back and forth between packs based on regions, biomes, and continents, so it's possible that this could still be coming somewhere down the line. The same idea that it's (relatively) "easy to make" that make us speculate about a free animal also apply to saving it to help fill out a future animal pack. So it's hard to know.
But since not everyone takes that approach, I could potentially see this as a strategy going forward, for animals that have similarities to ones already in the game (I don't know enough about the creation process to use words like re-rigs or re-skins. I'm just talking animals that could rightly or wrongly be perceived as that). It could potentially be a great way to please the part of the community that wants more animals, without some of the heightened criticism from people feeling they placed animals in a DLC that are too similar, and without inspiring a backlash or boycott from the part of the community that will only pay for DLCs that include building pieces.
I suppose the inclusion of the african penguin is the strongest argument against the likelihood of them doing this, since some players might feel that's in the same camp as the dromedary. Then again, maybe penguins are more requested or more popular (and thus more likely to be considered payment worthy). Plus the king penguin was in a dlc itself, so there are players that don't have the original yet.
But I could also see the dromedary being saved for a future deserts pack. Frontier has gone back and forth between packs based on regions, biomes, and continents, so it's possible that this could still be coming somewhere down the line. The same idea that it's (relatively) "easy to make" that make us speculate about a free animal also apply to saving it to help fill out a future animal pack. So it's hard to know.
I think the scenery from base game night be just a communication mistakes from their team. You know, they might get told “do a rhino scenery” without specifying to be indian, or they might decide on the indian rhino over the african species further down the line. They had to make alot of animals in relatively short time, so anything is possible. If they later decided to have white rhino in the game might be a completely coincidence, we dont know.
However having a dromedary sign in a DLC is weird, since I am pretty sure all the animals included were already set in stone...
However having a dromedary sign in a DLC is weird, since I am pretty sure all the animals included were already set in stone...
I think several theories about the odd scenery could be true at once.
Whoever made the base game scenery probably (at the time) had a quite basic knowledge of animals.
Mixing types of camels and alligators with crocodiles are common mistakes. The white elephant signs also got wrong names.
Other pieces like the Jaguar and some of the rhino might have been made, because they where planning on including them in the base game, but decided to save them for DLCs.
The oddest one to me is the deer. Not only 1 but at least 3 pieces of deer scenery made it in to the game. None of them looking like a reindeer. None of them being easily mistaken for another animal we got.
Had it only been the statue, I would have seen it purely as a fun piece of scenery like the dodo.
I think people read way too much into these sorts of things. If we get a free camel I'll eat my shoe.
The new camel scenery just goes with the North African theme. Camel caravans are extremely common in North Africa and the Middle East, as the only non-motorised mode of transport for thousands of years. It would be more conspicuous to not include some reference to camels in such a set. Likewise with the base game pieces - certain animals were clearly held back for DLC, and I'm sure that extends all the way to the white rhinoceros. I also strongly suspect the deer pieces are supposed to be relatively generic, but with Europe still untouched it's possible they've been planning another deer inclusion for some time, or it could be that deer are common motifs in classical and North American ("New World") scenery sets, or it could be that the reindeer covers that base even if the scenery doesn't accurately match.
Again, this feels like one of those situations where people are hyping themselves up for something without any real evidence, raising their expectations too high over what is probably nothing. I'd love the dromedary to be in the game, free or otherwise, but I'll be amazed if it comes in this pack or update.
The new camel scenery just goes with the North African theme. Camel caravans are extremely common in North Africa and the Middle East, as the only non-motorised mode of transport for thousands of years. It would be more conspicuous to not include some reference to camels in such a set. Likewise with the base game pieces - certain animals were clearly held back for DLC, and I'm sure that extends all the way to the white rhinoceros. I also strongly suspect the deer pieces are supposed to be relatively generic, but with Europe still untouched it's possible they've been planning another deer inclusion for some time, or it could be that deer are common motifs in classical and North American ("New World") scenery sets, or it could be that the reindeer covers that base even if the scenery doesn't accurately match.
Again, this feels like one of those situations where people are hyping themselves up for something without any real evidence, raising their expectations too high over what is probably nothing. I'd love the dromedary to be in the game, free or otherwise, but I'll be amazed if it comes in this pack or update.
I would argue that they already know that we percieve anything as hint, even a bush that was a slightly different colour in beta and was shown on recent screenshot started a big discussion about a potentional Europe DLC. They are very well aware of our obsessive search for hints, hence why I find it weird that they would include such piece. It probably is nothing, so I wont be dissapointed if it is a random piece, I just find it weird that they would so blatantly want to face our hype, expectations and and then dissapoitment again lol. But I agree, it is on us, because we expect too much. But they know!
I'm afraid Frontier still underestimates our nerd level and is not on the same page as some of us. They simply can't differ a dromedary from a bactrian camel, nor do they think we can. I know it sounds disrespectful, but it isn't meant like that in this case. It would be great to have really big zoo enthusiasts and animal experts on the game, but most of the knowledge we have is pretty niché and you can't expect to find a programmer that has this exact hobby.
What we can and should expect though is propper research. But I feel that is done by the people who program the animals, while the props are created at a much faster paste and therefore things like that happens.
What we can and should expect though is propper research. But I feel that is done by the people who program the animals, while the props are created at a much faster paste and therefore things like that happens.
Obsessive people will always find something. Seen a few threads about exhibit sizes (in the past 1,5 years) and the "evidence" was an official screenshot with a different angle. Already seen some posts in the JWE2 threads as well that raises the expectations.
and currently playing Red Dead Online which suffers the same.
Wouldn't be surprised if they created a lot of signs for the base game and forgot to remove some signs. If they would've removed it in an update, people would obsess about black rhino never to be included in the game because they removed the signs.
Or they just googled for inspiration and the result was the wrong picture.
Not convinced their choice was based on this.
Even without that thread, I would've betted on the White rhino.
While I like that thread a lot, I don't expect their choices will be based on the results of 1 platform. Some animals are very popular here and barely mentioned on other platforms.
Indeed, and if I find some of these claims ridiculous, I try to reason with people so they dont end up dissapointed. The example with the exhibit? I even went in game and took a screenshot from the same angle just to prove its indeed not a bigger size. And I do think alot of the base game probs might be in game for the exact same reasons you described.
But why add a random camel piece to the dlc? Did any other dlcs have probs with animals that did not came with it? I am not sure, but I think it didnt, so thats what I find weird.
I think the only 1 exhibit per DLC is already enough. Considering some people like myself don't enjoy exhibit animals at all, and there are already like 20 exhibit animals in the game. Habitat animals need more care than just adjusting the temperature and humidity and it allows for great creativity to design a habitat, compared to an already set exhibit.
If I remember correctly the Anteater themed Bench in the South America Pack looks like a Tamandua instead of a Giant Anteater
Tbh, never paid that much attention to scenery items that don't belong in a themed DLC. Don't think so or we would've seen multiple threads.
It's weird but I really don't want to look into that. The "free animal" theory would be nice but I don't count on it, as someone mentioned in another thread that would create an expectation of always getting a free animal with an update
or people "demanding" certain free animals.Now thats an animal i would like to see in the game
Yep it's clearly a Tamandua
Yea ok, but they have mistaken an anteater which was supposed to be in SA dlc for a tamandua. However bactrian camel is base game animal, just saying.
I would check out the N.... ehm, place where you can download mods for a todays suprise if I were you.
Today is your lucky day
Ah yes the mythical place full of wonders and imagination...that absolutely doesnt exist cough cough
Well there was a gull sign/figure thing in the Aquatic pack and Butterfly lamps in SA pack.