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[PlanetSoyJak]

Elephants and local farms - UKCDR

Using honeybees to keep crop-raiding elephants out of farmer’s fields In many parts of Africa, elephant numbers are on the rise. While a success for conservation, elephants often wander out of national parks and into nearby farmlands where they eat or trample farmers’ crops, devastating local...

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Elephants eat things too lol

Of course and the farmers provided a solution, how does that make the Natives hate them.

In the African Native Society, it represents Tribal Rituals, and is seen by many tribes as a way of leadership, courage and more.

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

17 zoos worlwide??? According to ZTL 107 North American zoos house coyote, idk where u got that from.
There are many reasons to not like the coyote as an inclusion in PZ but nothing you are bringing up is a valid reason in my opinion.

For real?

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

It's still exotic. Himalayan brown bear is found in like 2 zoos worldwide but is exotic

They are an exotic species and have a concerning amount of them living still.

 

[Chuditch]

Of course and the farmers provided a solution, how does that make the Natives hate them.

In the African Native Society, it represents Tribal Rituals, and is seen by many tribes as a way of leadership, courage and more.

Well the coyote shouldn't be hated for behaving like a coyote either, and they are also culturally important to a lot of First Nations peoples in North America. I think you're just biased man, and if having the coyote in PZ is good for anything, it's changing stigmas like this.

 

[USzoofan42]

It is seemed as roadkill, kills many pets every year, only has a 17 holdings worldwide, and took the spot of the most wanted pack that could have been Coatimundi or Patagonian Mara...

Coyote does not have 17 holdings worldwide bucko

 

[SivatheriumGuy]

For real?

 

[Mjmannella]

Breakdown from ZooTierListet

 

[USzoofan42]

Breakdown from ZooTierListet
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Likely more for North America too! ZooTierListe isn’t fully accurate and the North American facilities aren’t even close to completed yet.

 

[DarthQuell]

They are an exotic species and have a concerning amount of them living still.

To us maybe. Not to the locals. Remember that it's all about perspective, too.

My main point was that we shouldn't give these condensing labels to any animal. An animal is an animal. If we were to call it roadkill, then we might as well call kangaroos and several snake species roadkill. We might as well call elephants and deer pests.

But no, an animal serves its ecologically role, and we need to respect that. I'm not saying that the coyote was the best choice to the game, but don't go around saying the only thing it's known for is negative stuff

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

Well the coyote shouldn't be hated for behaving like a coyote either, and they are also culturally important to a lot of First Nations peoples in North America. I think you're just biased man, and if having the coyote in PZ is good for anything, it's changing stigmas like this.

Im not biased I just don't want a buttload of canines

Breakdown from ZooTierListet
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Europe (EU)​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 251​

Europe (NonEU)​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 119​

North America​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 58​

South America​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 16​

Africa​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 2​

Asia​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 44​

Australia and Oceania​ ​ ​ Holding(s): 1​

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

To us maybe. Not to the locals. Remember that it's all about perspective, too.

My main point was that we shouldn't give these condensing labels to any animal. An animal is an animal. If we were to call it roadkill, then we might as well call kangaroos and several snake species roadkill. We might as well call elephants and deer pests.

But no, an animal serves its ecologically role, and we need to respect that. I'm not saying that the coyote was the best choice to the game, but don't go around saying the only thing it's known for is negative stuff

Because it is only known for negative stuff

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

Well the coyote shouldn't be hated for behaving like a coyote either, and they are also culturally important to a lot of First Nations peoples in North America. I think you're just biased man, and if having the coyote in PZ is good for anything, it's changing stigmas like this.

No I think that im just to awesome

Also how is it a stigma to hate an Animal oh my god

 

[SivatheriumGuy]

Be it a coyote, a leopard, elephant, hippopotamus, wild boar, wolf... reducing said animal to just a "pest" because it can sometimes inconvenience human activity is incredibly reductive and can lead to huge harm to wild populations if these ideas are expanded. And at the same time we have to understand the struggles of people who do on a daily basis cohabit with wildlife, although one aspect can't take over the other.

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

Be it a coyote, a leopard, elephant, hippopotamus, wild boar, wolf... reducing said animal to just a "pest" because it can sometimes inconvenience human activity is incredibly reductive and can lead to huge harm to wild populations if these ideas are expanded. And at the same time we have to understand the struggles of people who do on a daily basis cohabit with wildlife, although one aspect can't take over the other.

Sir I have a chicken farm in my backyard and I have coyotes near me so uhhh...

 

[DarthQuell]

Because it is only known for negative stuff

 

[Chuditch]

Im not biased I just don't want a buttload of canines

Neither do I, but I don't think we should be spreading more hate towards an animal that is already unjustly maligned enough IRL just because it took the spot of something else we would have liked in a video game. There are more constructive ways to go about this.

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

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This only helps my point as it is seen as the villain and only wants to kill a bird which I don't think is what a real coyote wants to do...

 

[Villanelle]

Im not biased I just don't want a buttload of canines

That...that's literally a bias.

 

[SivatheriumGuy]

Sir I have a chicken farm in my backyard and I have coyotes near me so uhhh...

Dude I just said we have to understand you guy's situation aswell

 

[PlanetSoyJak]

Neither do I, but I don't think we should be spreading more hate towards an animal that is already unjustly maligned enough IRL just because it took the spot of something else we would have liked in a video game. There are more constructive ways to go about this.

I've seen people crying over this game I think this is the most constructive way to do this