Planet Zoo - Animal Talks

Just to throw fuel on the fire, "ending on a high note" could be an aviary hint. Or some kind of alpine DLC. Probably not anything, but the speculation is fun
 
I watched a YouTube vid from 'IAmTheLionRider' where he said that one of the developers accidentally revealed the King Penguin, Grey Seal, Giant River Otter and Sun Bear, wonder what that means for the next DLC, a South-East Asia Pack, South America Expansion Pack or a Sub-Aquatic Pack
 
Just to throw fuel on the fire, "ending on a high note" could be an aviary hint. Or some kind of alpine DLC. Probably not anything, but the speculation is fun

I don't see how a common turn of phrase is a reference to anything at all. At the moment we have people hyping up a currently non-existent bird DLC, and people hyping up a currently non-existent aquatic DLC. Both are equally likely, but it's also likely the next DLC will be just as basic as the others we've already had, and I'd sooner not see a thousand comments all over the forum about how we all feel let down because Frontier didn't deliver on some non-existent promise.
 
I just hope "ending on a high note" means meaningful difference to past DLCs. For me personally that would be a DLC with more content and animals (for a higher price point of course, if I never discuss one thing, it's the price of the DLCs). Just something that sets a better future for the game. A plott twist that let me personally look forward to a strong 2021 with PZ and not just "same as usual".
 
Hii, everyone! I don't know if it has already passed? But when is the official release of Animal Talks? I can't wait.
 
I just hope "ending on a high note" means meaningful difference to past DLCs. For me personally that would be a DLC with more content and animals (for a higher price point of course, if I never discuss one thing, it's the price of the DLCs). Just something that sets a better future for the game. A plott twist that let me personally look forward to a strong 2021 with PZ and not just "same as usual".

I think it's entirely possible the next DLC will be something different, but IMO it's entirely possible it won't be as well. That said considering what we've seen in the "leaks" it's very likely we will something different at some point - whether that's in the upcoming DLC or in a future one, who knows?

Honestly at this point I'm just glad new content is coming. Like everyone else I'd love for something like underwater navigation or aviaries to be on the horizon but in the meantime I'll take a handful of new African animals or European animals or whatever.
 
Same! I look forward to any potentional aquatic and bird stuff, but if it is not ready and we will recieve something different in the meantime, I am fine with it! there are still way too many animals from everywhere around the world that I am missing, so I do not care in which order they will come.
 
Honestly at this point I'm just glad new content is coming. Like everyone else I'd love for something like underwater navigation or aviaries to be on the horizon but in the meantime I'll take a handful of new African animals or European animals or whatever.
Totally understandable. I would also take a regular DLC one last time. But at least after that I would honestly be fed up with the small packs for a while. If they come in between bigger once I could appreciate them much more I guess.
 
Totally understandable. I would also take a regular DLC one last time. But at least after that I would honestly be fed up with the small packs for a while. If they come in between bigger once I could appreciate them much more I guess.

You know what else I'd love that I think would both be pretty simple and cover a lot of bases? Just a "missing animal pack". Four animals, some basic zoo building pieces. Maybe something like an American alligator, white rhinoceros, and two other random animals that seem quintessential but aren't in the game (alpine ibex? Something like that). I think it would still end the year on a high note (popularly requested animals) without upsetting too many people for not including aquatics or birds or whatever.
 
You know what else I'd love that I think would both be pretty simple and cover a lot of bases? Just a "missing animal pack". Four animals, some basic zoo building pieces. Maybe something like an American alligator, white rhinoceros, and two other random animals that seem quintessential but aren't in the game (alpine ibex? Something like that). I think it would still end the year on a high note (popularly requested animals) without upsetting too many people for not including aquatics or birds or whatever.


I thought your thread about the zoo pack was excellent and exactly what this game needs. Besides the obvious critical necessity for an aquatic and bird DLC, that certainly would plug a number of gaps. There is a long list of necessary building pieces, foliage and props that would do wonders for the segment of the community that enjoys building zoos. The problem is that it might be possible that the other segment of the community that favors new management and gameplay features, but does not necessarily care much about aesthetics and missing content, gets nothing out of a DLC that targets all the missing content.

Do not get me wrong, I would absolutely fall in love all over again with this game if such a pack was ever released, but at this point would it really be likely? They obviously have the two big ones but then what should follow those, which direction would they take as a company, because the current DLC formats, unfortunately seem to be a very viable option for them.

As you mention I also have my personal preferences, but if they were to release an African Continent or European Continent DLC it would absolutely be another welcomed addition. I'm really a very easy customer, other than releasing a fictional DLC I would purchase anything Frontier creates for this game. It has become obvious to me in recent times that unfortunately while Frontier would certainly receive and even analyze the feedback of the creative piece by piece building side of the community, they can not base their release strategy on it. Millions of costumers have purchased this game by now, and there is just a very small number of us continuously active in this and other platforms, and even within this small number our priorities and styles of playing seem to be all over the place. So what before might have seem like excellent ideas for me, have now evolved with a big question mark of, are they really?

The casual player might get more exited for a new feature that allows animals to actually attack and maul visitors than this conceptually faithful animal talks feature that totally focuses on what you would expect to find in zoos. I realize that this is very specific example, but if you translate it into a broader concept affecting everything in this game, I think it addresses the issue, of who should Frontier be really making a zoo game for? Because it starts and ends with a profitable idea, and how to best put it into practice while reaching the largest number of potential customers.
 
You know what else I'd love that I think would both be pretty simple and cover a lot of bases? Just a "missing animal pack". Four animals, some basic zoo building pieces. Maybe something like an American alligator, white rhinoceros, and two other random animals that seem quintessential but aren't in the game (alpine ibex? Something like that). I think it would still end the year on a high note (popularly requested animals) without upsetting too many people for not including aquatics or birds or whatever.
You reallt think that "Just a missing animal pack." would mean a "hight note" and not disappoint people who would love acquatic animals or birds? I don't think so
 
I thought your thread about the zoo pack was excellent and exactly what this game needs. Besides the obvious critical necessity for an aquatic and bird DLC, that certainly would plug a number of gaps. There is a long list of necessary building pieces, foliage and props that would do wonders for the segment of the community that enjoys building zoos. The problem is that it might be possible that the other segment of the community that favors new management and gameplay features, but does not necessarily care much about aesthetics and missing content, gets nothing out of a DLC that targets all the missing content.

Do not get me wrong, I would absolutely fall in love all over again with this game if such a pack was ever released, but at this point would it really be likely? They obviously have the two big ones but then what should follow those, which direction would they take as a company, because the current DLC formats, unfortunately seem to be a very viable option for them.

As you mention I also have my personal preferences, but if they were to release an African Continent or European Continent DLC it would absolutely be another welcomed addition. I'm really a very easy customer, other than releasing a fictional DLC I would purchase anything Frontier creates for this game. It has become obvious to me in recent times that unfortunately while Frontier would certainly receive and even analyze the feedback of the creative piece by piece building side of the community, they can not base their release strategy on it. Millions of costumers have purchased this game by now, and there is just a very small number of us continuously active in this and other platforms, and even within this small number our priorities and styles of playing seem to be all over the place. So what before might have seem like excellent ideas for me, have now evolved with a big question mark of, are they really?

The casual player might get more exited for a new feature that allows animals to actually attack and maul visitors than this conceptually faithful animal talks feature that totally focuses on what you would expect to find in zoos. I realize that this is very specific example, but if you translate it into a broader concept affecting everything in this game, I think it addresses the issue, of who should Frontier be really making a zoo game for? Because it starts and ends with a profitable idea, and how to best put it into practice while reaching the largest number of potential customers.

I think one saving grace is that the Content Creator community does seem fairly unified in agreeing with you and I about more basic content, though. While they obviously are pushing for birds and aquatics like everyone else is, as more of them delve into more 'realistic' builds, they too are noticing some rather important pieces that are missing. Given that we know that Frontier does base a lot of their plans on what the YouTubers are talking about, it's possible that we might still see something like this pop up. In any case, it is a good theme. If we got an African pack, for example, that excluded the meerkat, including it again later in a basic zoo pack would still fit the bill, since it's such a basic zoo animal. The same could be said for the emu which was left out of the Australia Pack, or even the capybara which was left out of the SA Pack (though that's slightly more niche, there do seem to be a lot of capybara in captivity these days).
 
You reallt think that "Just a missing animal pack." would mean a "hight note" and not disappoint people who would love acquatic animals or birds? I don't think so

Yes, obviously. Because we were never promised an aquatics pack or a bird pack. We haven't been promised anything. There's only the obvious inferrence of a DLC coming in December (SteamDB, and now this very announcement which always leads to an update announcement and then a DLC announcement). That is literally all the information we have, beyond the dev-leak, which again, isn't actually a promise of anything. You and others are simply hyping yourselves up over virtually nothing. You're gearing up to be disappointed. If I didn't understand human behaviour so well, I'd almost think it was deliberate.

Getting disappointed over losing something you never had to begin with is just silly. More than that, a lot of the animals mentioned here are outside of an aquatic or avian theme, so it's pretty obvious that there are a ton of regular animals people still want. If they covered the top four requested animals in a single pack, only people who like to yell on internet forums are going to be upset about it.
 
I just hope "ending on a high note" means meaningful difference to past DLCs. For me personally that would be a DLC with more content and animals (for a higher price point of course, if I never discuss one thing, it's the price of the DLCs). Just something that sets a better future for the game. A plott twist that let me personally look forward to a strong 2021 with PZ and not just "same as usual".


I definitely would hope for something like this as well, but I'm less and less hopeful as the plot twist you mentioned unravels. Once you place all of the informational pieces we have been given, both intentional and unintentional ones, I think the pictures starts becoming a bit more clear for me. The intentional leaked private video is a clear show of the commitment that Frontier still shows this game, and their full intention to visit those places that players have been clamoring to be visited for quite some time. My prediction is that the year ends on a sweet and bitter note, a semi happy ending. There is a possibility that we will receive a long awaited feature, that includes some highly entertaining animals, but it will be only four of them, just as it has been all along.

If you remember some time back, I mentioned that when an aquatic DLC was released it would probably be just four animals, not because there was no shortage of other aquatic species that deserved to be included but simply because they could create four animals, release them as an aquatic pack and get away with it. The animals would more than likely be highly complex when it comes to their mechanics, so keeping the size of the pack small is understandable. I think we will one day absolutely receive more than four animals, as I'm sure that they continue to work simultaneously in other projects related to this game, but it will not be now. One thing I have learned in recent weeks is that Frontier seems to work on more than one project at a time in relation to this game, possibly due to the overall complexity and differences between said projects. So it is just as likely to me that they release a number of DLCs as the final December le, but is not very likely at this point is that it will include anything more than the four animals we have been getting.

I do believe that because the DLC size phenomenon has affected the entire Planet Zoo community as a whole, this is something that they will eventually address and rectify, but it will not be now, as everything that gets release now had been a part of their plans since the beginning.
 
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