Planet Zoo - Colour Variation

[Firestar97]

I would really like to see more Pictures too. More Wolf Pictures would be interesting, I'm interested to see what the other Variations look like (at least I hope there are more). I would like to see black Wolves and Wolves that don't have such a bright Snout. Most Wolves don't have a Snout that is way brighter than the Rest of the Body.
But of course it would also be great to see Variations for some other Animals

 

[Caemoxie]

Oh wow that peafowl chart looks great! I would be super happy with this. But I know I shouldnt get my hopes up.
Lets just wait and see. But mannn those colour variations would make the habitat stunning! We already have so little birds in the game so this would be very welcome.

@ Frontier: Please look at this peafowl chart. lol

I agree! I had no idea that peafowl breeding was a hobby for some, just like pigeon breeding used to be/is, until I was looking around for what might be in the game with the update. Some of those variations lack the iridescent gene that peafowl have and ironically I think those "blander" fellows would really help make an exhibit pop. However, another reason not to get too terribly hopeful about these guys (outside them possibly being outside the range of what Frontier is considering for now) is that I learned that at least some of the domestic color variants have resulted from cross-breeding with the green peafowl and I don't think hybrids are in the works for this update (Frontier is welcome to prove me wrong on this point though looks about hopefully). Anyway that chart is not exhaustive and I don't know if any of those varations are hybrids, so there is hope! In moderation.

 

[Firestar97]

Even though I wouldn't like it if we would just randomly get domestic Variations when we're breeding the normal Indian Peafowl, I must say that the Cameo Peafowl looks interesting. Just looked at some Photos. They look as if they jumped out of a old Photo into the real World.

However, another reason not to get too terribly hopeful about these guys (outside them possibly being outside the range of what Frontier is considering for now) is that I learned that at least some of the domestic color variants have resulted from cross-breeding with the green peafowl and I don't think hybrids are in the works for this update (Frontier is welcome to prove me wrong on this point though looks about hopefully). Anyway that chart is not exhaustive and I don't know if any of those varations are hybrids, so there is hope! In moderation.

The only Hybrid Peafowl I know is the Spalding Peafowl. But if some of them are really also Hybrids, I wouldn't like it to get them randomly without Crossbreeding

 

[Caemoxie]

Oh, yeah, @Urufu1997 I got distracted but I wanted to ask you about this:

I hope they will only include Variations that can be also found in the Wild but maybe they could implement some System that you have a Chance to get a domestic Variation if you breed with White Peafowl. But they shouldn't just occur if you only breed the normal Peafowl. I wonder if we will even get Variations for them

What does a white peafowl have to do with domestic color variations? Most domestic color/pattern/shape variation seem in domestic animals came from wild stock, and theoretically could appear in a wild population, they just generally don't last very well in nature. Selective breeding just "stabilizes" the mutation and seeks to create a population that breeds true. (This all is less true for species that have domesticated for a really long time, like dogs). Do you know of a genetic link between white peafowl and domestic colors? Or is this more of just a game mechanic request?

Also yes, I am talking about Spalding peafowl. Hobbyist peafowl breeding websites look a bit chaotic for someone with little knowledge of peafowls (like me), but I think some color lines listed spaldings in their lineages. I am not certain though. It also seems like some varieties have just been found in random amateur backyard experiments where no one has any idea what really went into them, so who knows.

 

[Firestar97]

What does a white peafowl have to do with domestic color variations? Most domestic color/pattern/shape variation seem in domestic animals came from wild stock, and theoretically could appear in a wild population, they just generally don't last very well in nature. Selective breeding just "stabilizes" the mutation and seeks to create a population that breeds true. (This all is less true for species that have domesticated for a really long time, like dogs). Do you know of a genetic link between white peafowl and domestic colors? Or is this more of just a game mechanic request?

It was just a Gameplay Idea to keep wild and domestic Peafowl separated (also because of the piebald Peafowl) but if some of them really can also appear in wild Populations, I would like to see them and get a bit educated about which Variations don't only appear after long separate Breeding.

Edit: I've learned that the Black-Shouldered blue Peafowl can also be found in the Wild, so I would love it to see them in the Game

I think the best way would be to introduce them like the White Peafowl because as I've learned the Breeding with them does work exactly like with the white Peafowl in the Game

 

[Naturaroca]

!!! This is great news !!!
Actually, I did not expect them to do this in the game and I receive it with great enthusiasm.
I can't wait to see the result and the other additions or improvements that the game will receive in this next update.
This is going to change the way I fully integrate myself into the game.
I am very excited!!!!

 

[NL_Mutso]

Please give us more informations/pictures as soo as you can, people are getting mad/exctited about too little informations Personally I want to know more in order to understand how should I feel

So Frontier gave an news update about coat variations in the next update and still complain ?
For some people it will always be too little info...
Next time they should go with: "There will be an update in the upcoming weeks, that is all".

 

[Markiz]

So Frontier gave an news update about coat variations in the next update and still complain ?
For some people it will always be too little info...
Next time they should go with: "There will be an update in the upcoming weeks, that is all".

Word

 

[NZFanatic]

So Frontier gave an news update about coat variations in the next update and still complain ?
For some people it will always be too little info...
Next time they should go with: "There will be an update in the upcoming weeks, that is all".

That's what I was saying a couple pages back. I feel like I'm missing some piece of bad news because of the way everyone is acting towards this.

We heard nothing for months, and people were justifiably starting to get anxious about it, and then we finally get some really good news, and suddenly it's not good enough? Really? I'm thrilled for this update.

I'm sure this makes me a "shill" or whatever but so far the only things I've been disappointed by are the things we don't have, never the things we do. Even if the colour variations are just colour-shaded rather than retextured, it's still a marked improvement on what we had to begin with.

 

[NL_Mutso]

Even if the colour variations are just colour-shaded rather than retextured, it's still a marked improvement on what we had to begin with

I think that's a very fair point. Personally I would go with: expect colour-shaded and anything more detailed is a nice bonus.

I feel like I'm missing some piece of bad news because of the way everyone is acting towards this.

To me, not the biggest surprise - voiced my opinion in several similar topics about this. (seen this happen with other games as well)
The 3 released pics are just give an example for the 3 variations. I think people are somewhat disappointed Frontier isn't doing their version of variation.

 

[Firestar97]

I've discovered a Secret that everyone here should be excited for. I've discovered it just by normally playing the Game.
I was just looking at the Camel Enclosure and then I've discovered this

A very bright Bactrian Camel

Comparison Picture of a normal colored Bactrian Camel

And here's a Comparison Picture with both of them next to each other

It seems like Frontier did already implement at least one Variation into the Game before the next Update. I wonder if that's the only one or if there are more. I don't think that it's just Sand in the Fur or something like that. It's the first Time I've saw this and a lot of Bactrian Camels where already born in this Enclosure

 

[Caemoxie]

It was just a Gameplay Idea to keep wild and domestic Peafowl separated (also because of the piebald Peafowl) but if some of them really can also appear in wild Populations, I would like to see them and get a bit educated about which Variations don't only appear after long separate Breeding.

Edit: I've learned that the Black-Shouldered blue Peafowl can also be found in the Wild, so I would love it to see them in the Game

I think the best way would be to introduce them like the White Peafowl because as I've learned the Breeding with them does work exactly like with the white Peafowl in the Game

Fair enough then! If it doesn't have much of a genetic basis, it might feel a bit arbitrary, but keeping things challenging is important too. I agree it would probably make sense with the piebald variants (which are actually the variant I have the most hope for appearing in the update) and black-shouldered is decent pattern compromise, even if they decide against domestic colors. If the colors are implemented, it will depend on how in-depth they want to go with the genetics system, but it could be very interesting.

Also congrats on the beautiful camel! I love that variant, relatively subtle, but still quite striking. I don't suppose you noticed if she/he had the coloration as a calf?

 

[Firestar97]

I don't suppose you noticed if she/he had the coloration as a calf?

I've only discovered her Difference from the other Camels a few Minutes ago, so I don't know it. But she's pregnant. I'm really excited to find out what her Offspring will look like. I've renamed her to Prinzessin (Princess) so I can find her fast in the Animal Menu of the Enclosure.

But I've just had another Thought. What if it is a Mutation like the Melanism, Albinism and Leucism but they just forgot to add a special Icon that fits the Color? I mean we do also have a Albino(?) Dall Sheep but there the Icon does exist but no special Texture

 

[Firestar97]

Her Offspring was born but the Color of its Fur seems to be only slightly different or not different at all but maybe I will still be able to breed another one that has such bright Fur

 

[giu94]

So Frontier gave an news update about coat variations in the next update and still complain ?
For some people it will always be too little info...
Next time they should go with: "There will be an update in the upcoming weeks, that is all".

One can be happy or disappointed with an update, I just said that I wish I knew more since I don't if I should be among the happy ones or the disappointed ones. From those pictures I don't know if the variations problem is gonna be handled in a way a like, you know it? Good for you.

 

[danny420]

I dont understand what the problem is here with people beeing dissapointed by this "update". I can only talk for myself of course, and yes i am very dissapointed by what we are getting and where the game stands now, nearly 1 year after release. Whats the problem with wanting to have a stable base game where they build upon? If we doint voice our concerns then nothing will ever change. But of course i dont think its the right thing to make offensive comments towards the developers. Hope we get more info soon on what exactly to expect from the upcoming update.

 

[Naturaroca]

That camel looks good!
I can't wait to see the rest of the color patterns of the other animals. I am very curious.

Hahaha I'm like a child with new shoes.

 

[Moonfox]

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Oh my gosh, how spectacular is that camel!! Is this a new variant, or the “albino”? I’ve never played with camels before, but now I will!

 

[Firestar97]

Oh my gosh, how spectacular is that camel!! Is this a new variant, or the “albino”? I’ve never played with camels before, but now I will!

I don't know for sure. It could be like the Color Mutations and they just forgot to add a custom Icon for it. I hope she will get male Offspring next Time so I can try to find out if I can selectively breed them. At least the Mutation Theory would explain why it took so long for me to get a Camel with that Color.
But it's a bit weird (if it is like that) to include this Color which is very common in Real Life as a Mutation

 

[LN]

Disappointed....
Happy......
In doubt.....

It won't matter anyways.
They are not gonna change it again after this update when there are hundreds of different expectations to meet.

You can't leave it as everybody get's this fantastic update, so take it as it is.
Expressing feelings is fine btw. Nothing wrong with that.