Modes Play in open is not what some would have you believe!

[Jockey79]

Thank you for your opinion man.
Honestly I am glad we hear something positive for once. I logged over 2300 hours in Open and I find, its at large a friendly place, met some cool and helpful friends there.
Rep to you Sir

o7

It is nice to hear cool stories.

What annoys people is to be accused of being "scared" like they did. No one is "scared" of a computer game. So he, like others should grow up.
We were told BEFORE we could buy the game, that players can choose to play with others or not, it is that attitude of making accusations that puts people off.

His story will turn more people away from Open, than it will bring to Open because he had to called people "scared".

 

[Darkfyre99]

Advantanges of Open: People
Disadvantages of Open: People

Advantages of PG: Only people who you can trust more or less and probably have agreed rules on.
Disadvantages of PG: For some, less people is a disadvantage.

Advantages of Solo: No other people.
Disadvantages of Solo: No other people.

“You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Agony_Aunt again,” strikes again!

 

[OldManKnott]

I've had a month long exploration mission wiped out by someone for their 20 seconds of thrill. Now when I'm coming back to a station after a huge exploration, (currently on the way to Beagle Point), I'll drop to solo for the last 500 ly or so. Yes its a shame and I much prefer the edginess of open, but as already said, I'm not risking 1 months+ time for some sad little individual to have a 20 second moment.

 

[Dirtbird]

When I started playing this game about a year and three months ago, I started in solo because I was worried / afraid / whatever that as a noob in my E rated sidewinder, I’d just get taken apart by gankers. I’d read about them on these very forums. Instead, I got taken apart by NPCs instead because ED don’t handle anything like the original Elite.

Two weeks and a number of improvements later, I decided to see what open had to offer, to finally experience my musing as a kid playing Elite on the BBC computer, “what if it was another person in that ship I see there”.

*crickets*

I didn’t meet another CMDR for at least a month, and the first one I met was at Deciat, and I recognised his name from the forums and he joked with me about taking my sidewinder to Colonia.

Fast forward about 8 months:

Met my first ganker (known, discovered that he was infamous on Reddit) while in my Python hauling goods for a CG. Got interdicted by a Corvette which I turned to face, then scanned, then left the scene as fast as I could after checking his loadout. My Python’s shields were not evaporated on the spot, and by now I was a good enough pilot to ensure at least 50% of his and his fighter’s shots missed simply due to evasive manoeuvres. My top priority is not credits per hour but making sure I can do what want, however I want to and all my ships are set up that way.

So for some people, perhaps there is a bit of getting over the fear of being mindlessly blown up in Open but it’s not happened to me yet. Blown up by other CMDRs yes, but not mindlessly ganked. My one decent PvP event (at a Combat CG) was spoilt by a broken windscreen on my Vulture which led to boom because I couldn’t aim properly and I had 7 minutes of air left.

Who’d be one of those who used to be very apprehensive about playing in open? I’m one of them.

 

[Jockey79]

So for some people, perhaps there is a bit of getting over the fear of ......

And there it is.

Always some veiled accusation that people are scared. It completely undermines your little story.
It's pixels on a screen, no one is scared.

Various people do not play in open for various reasons.
Me, I bought the game to play with my friends, not random people I don't know, nor want to know.
I worked with the general public most of my life, I don't want them in my down time.

Some folks just want to chill out and enjoy the game Frontier is making.

 

[Thatchinho]

And there it is.

Always some veiled accusation that people are scared. It completely undermines your little story.
It's pixels on a screen, no one is scared.

Various people do not play in open for various reasons.
Me, I bought the game to play with my friends, not random people I don't know, nor want to know.
I worked with the general public most of my life, I don't want them in my down time.

Some folks just want to chill out and enjoy the game Frontier is making.

I hope you don't take this the wrong way bud, but I think you're probably suffering a bit from over exposure to the usual DD arguments.

The poster gives the example that he was a bit afraid, and then says that so for some people maybe there is a little bit of getting over the fear. That's seems reasonable enough.

This just looks like a case of others having used words like fear in a perjorative sense and it distorting perceptions of them when they're used in a sensible manner.

(For the record, I've always played in Open myself*, but I support people having the option to use whatever mode works best for them. I'd certainly say that a PG sounds like the right thing for your situation, for example.)

*except on the very rare occasions where connectivity doesn't permit or when the Guardian obelisks were bugged and didn't reset, meaning mode switching had to be used as a workaround.

 

[Maka Gucci]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way bud, but I think you're probably suffering a bit from over exposure to the usual DD arguments.

The poster gives the example that he was a bit afraid, and then says that so for some people maybe there is a little bit of getting over the fear. That's seems reasonable enough.

This just looks like a case of others having used words like fear in a perjorative sense and it distorting perceptions of them when they're used in a sensible manner.

(For the record, I've always played in Open myself*, but I support people having the option to use whatever mode works best for them. I'd certainly say that a PG sounds like the right thing for your situation, for example.)

*except on the very rare occasions where connectivity doesn't permit or when the Guardian obelisks were bugged and didn't reset, meaning mode switching had to be used as a workaround.

Sounds like his ego is just trying to defend his insecurity. People do play in different modes for various reasons, but Jockey, was clearly defensive.

 

[Faded Glory]

Advantages of Solo: No other people.
Disadvantages of Solo: No other people.

For some that's no disadvantage at all...

 

[UmbraRex]

“You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Agony_Aunt again,” strikes again!

Got Ya.

 

[Thatchinho]

Sounds like his ego is just trying to defend his insecurity. People do play in different modes for various reasons, but Jockey, was clearly defensive.

Aw, come on, I think that's a bit unfair. Just looks like a case of misinterpreting the poster's meaning/intention to me.

 

[znôrt]

thanks for sharing your positive vibe, and i totally get where you come from, but there are some small problems:

i've never been afraid of playing in open. first, death is largely optional. second, i really don't mind a rebuy screen. i've faced a lot of them, mostly in open.

i do not fly open anymore because:
- network quality is miserable in open
- i lost all interest in combat since engineers (yes, i have unlocked all of them, i have several top engineered combat ships, and from that experience and knowledge i came to the conclusion that engineers is utter crap that has completely spoiled combat in this game)
- most of the people i used to play with have left the game, and i've not stuck with any other nice group since. i'm not against, it just didn't happen. if i did, this would be currently the only reason to enter open despite the above. i know there's a chicken-and-egg problem here but ... see above!

Hiding in Solo/PG defeats the whole purpose of a multi-player game.

no, game designers have defeated the whole purpose of open multiplayer. see above.
edit:add: (and playing solo/pg is not hiding. get over that)

that said, best wishes and have fun!!!

 

[Iskariot]

So, I have not been on the forum in a few days. I log in today and right at the top is a week old thread "Open play trolls"! One person complaining they got attacked and 65 pages pf people debating this. I randomly scanned the posts and it is the same things over and over.

So I thought I shared my POSITIVE experience in open.

I was flying around Wyrd this week. Running missions and gathering Mats for some Dweller upgrades. Flying to all the close by systems running my missions. One night I encountered at least 15 other Commanders. I was not attacked once! I exchanged greetings with a few of them and we all went about our business. Ships from Cobras to Chieftains to Anacondas! Ranks of all kinds!

As the title says, don't be afraid to play in open. It is not the gank fest some on these forums would have you believe just so they can get their agenda implemented.

If you get attacked, now you know there is a jerk in that system, go somewhere else. If you need to do something in that system then yes, switch to solo or PG (i.e. A CG). Understand that yes, there are some dangerous places in this game and there are some jerks just like any other game. Understand where they might gather. i.e. Community Goals, birth systems, Engineers (though I have only been attacked once at an engineer. I won and we had a nice chat afterwords).

Now that we have more chances to play together (wing missions, etc.), Open gives you the chance to meet other players and interact, make friends. Hiding in Solo/PG defeats the whole purpose of a multi-player game.

I just thought I would share something positive regarding playing in Open.

DISCLAIMER: I am neither a greifer/ganker nor a PVPer. Though I would not run from a PVP encounter I thought was evenly matched.

I agree that Open is not a gank fest.
I played in Open for 18 months or so and was only attacked three times.
You just need to know what areas are more risky.

Having said that... I still prefer Solo/single player/offline over Open/multiplayer/online for any game in my possession, including Elite Dangerous.

 

[Jockey79]

I hope you don't take this the wrong way bud, but I think you're probably suffering a bit from over exposure to the usual DD arguments.

The poster gives the example that he was a bit afraid, and then says that so for some people maybe there is a little bit of getting over the fear. That's seems reasonable enough.

This just looks like a case of others having used words like fear in a perjorative sense and it distorting perceptions of them when they're used in a sensible manner.

(For the record, I've always played in Open myself*, but I support people having the option to use whatever mode works best for them. I'd certainly say that a PG sounds like the right thing for your situation, for example.)

*except on the very rare occasions where connectivity doesn't permit or when the Guardian obelisks were bugged and didn't reset, meaning mode switching had to be used as a workaround.

You may be right, I have seen this accusation a lot recently.
It's getting very old now.

I would like to give the poster the benefit of doubt, but also seen too many veiled insults around here.
You get it a lot from people trying to push open mode on people who don't want it.
And it's always for the same reason, they want pew pew targets.

I did read the post a few times, but he didn't just say he was scared, he told others not to be scared, which is why I figured it's just another griefer looking for cannon fodder.
If he'd have kept the accusation out of the post, I'd have taken it on face value.

I'm glad you want to see the good here and want to trust it's just someone sharing a nice story.
If you want to keep that rose tinted glass approach - I'd stop reading these forums, they will grind you down

Sounds like his ego is just trying to defend his insecurity. People do play in different modes for various reasons, but Jockey, was clearly defensive.

Defensive, no.

Fed up of being insulted because I choose not to play with random strangers.

 

[Agony_Aunt]

Some folks just want to chill out and enjoy the game Frontier is making.

It often boils down to this.

There are people who don't want much in the way of player interactions. They are fine with this and make no demands others play their way.

There are people who do want a lot of player interactions. A small, but vocal subset of these seem to think they can push frontier to make others play the way they want or taunt those who don't want it into playing with them.

Neither strategy is going to work. FD made the modes for a reason and I can't imagine a single player thinking "Oh noes, he's taunting me, he's calling me names, i shall go into open and give that knave a thrashing!" more like "Oh gods, here we go again with the epeen waving, when will they grow up?"

 

[Gully Foyle]

If you're not around popular spots like the current hipster CG or in the baby crib area,
it will be rare that you will be hunted and kilt by the Pkers. Don't add nitwits to your friend list :O
That said, learn how to evade and escape, and always have situational awareness (IE look at your radar).
The cmdrs I see in Open run for cover or say Howdy do about 50/50.


I must spread some Bacon Reputation around before giving it to Agony_Aunt again.

 

[Mouse]

“You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Agony_Aunt again,” strikes again!

Got Agony for you

 

[Mouse]

If you're not around popular spots like the current hipster CG or in the baby crib area,
it will be rare that you will be hunted and kilt by the Pkers. Don't add nitwits to your friend list :O
That said, learn how to evade and escape, and always have situational awareness (IE look at your radar).
The cmdrs I see in Open run for cover or say Howdy do about 50/50.


I must spread some Bacon Reputation around before giving it to Agony_Aunt again.

Agony always deserves Bacon!

 

[Thatchinho]

You may be right, I have seen this accusation a lot recently.
It's getting very old now.

I would like to give the poster the benefit of doubt, but also seen too many veiled insults around here.
You get it a lot from people trying to push open mode on people who don't want it.
And it's always for the same reason, they want pew pew targets.

I did read the post a few times, but he didn't just say he was scared, he told others not to be scared, which is why I figured it's just another griefer looking for cannon fodder.
If he'd have kept the accusation out of the post, I'd have taken it on face value.

Yeah, I understand where you're coming from. I don't think it was an accusation though. My reading of the post was the statements about fear was more of a commentary on what the poster had been led to think as a new starter versus their actual experience.

Personally I've read a lot of anti-open posts which are massively at odds with my own experience of open, and I feel would massively distort things in the view of a new starter. I've also read a lot of anti-solo/PG posts which are plain efforts to force people to play a way they don't want to.

I don't think the post in question was one of the latter.

(I'm assuming we're both still talking about the post from the other page, as opposed to the OP, btw! )

 

[Clifra Jones]

Wow, what an odd response to a perfectly reasonable post where a player is describing their experiences. Obviously you cared enough to comment no? It's amazing seeing the reaction this harmless post is getting from certain people...

What I see is what I expected to see. I care little if someone plays in solo or PG but I do care when people come here and spread falsehoods re; open.

It is not about being afraid. Like you said ".... go somewhere else...." why should I alter my gameplay because of someone else? Open world offers many unexpected encounters, you have to adapt to those situations. But I am not looking that in ED, I enjoy cruising around in my spaceship, do some missions, shoot at npcs and make cash. I like it being predictable, where I am in control of my gameplay.

I fly primarily in open and very, very seldom alter my game play. But yes, I rarely participate in CGs as I do not have the time to play 5 days in a row so it does not make it worth my while. I frequent engineers all the time and have only been attacked once!

I Would be afraid —- If I ever met someone!!!

So true, it is quite rare to even see another human player. Seeing several in 1 night was particularly rare!

Why would you be amazed? There is at least one of these Guilt Trip based advertisements for Open Mode a week on here. As someone else pointed out... Odd how you never see similar adverts to join Solo or Private Groups.

Why is that?

The fact that none of these OPs can post one of these threads without getting in at least a couple of jabs about being afraid, hiding, or whatever other derogatory innuendo you can come up with isn't lost on us either.

Do they not understand that it is more the unpleasant, passive aggressive/confrontational attitude of so many of the Open Mode fanboys that is the primary turn-off?

I've always said that all the "No one plays in Open Mode anymore" whiners are their own worst enemies.

Your comments are falling into that same category whether you realize it or not.

NO "guilt trip" meant here. I really could care less where you play. I can see a new player coming on to this forum looking for help and deciding "Elite is just not for me. I am looking for a multi-player game but not a greifer fest!" When in all reality it is not. A reality you would never know by reading this forum. Including the responses here.

I’ve had plenty of Open experiences - all negative - right down to some hero who apparently macroed a string of obscenities and proceeded to spam the chat channel my last time out.
Yea. You keep it and I’ll stick to a PG. I see other pilots there just fine and don’t have to worry about being station-rammed by some keyboard commando.

So this has happened to you the majority of times you have played in open? And really how many times is that? once, twice? So some turn macro'ed some bad words in the chat panel, did you melt?

 

[Deleted member 110222]

I don't play in Open right now because FD broke the comms panel.