Well you never know what else is going on in someone's life I guess.
Player Retention
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Well you never know what else is going on in someone's life I guess.
It is? I can't remember the last time I saw someone moaning about that.
You're good. I think it's a balance myself, somewhat akin to the sayings variety is the spice of life, and its antonym, familiarity breeds contempt. I've always been on the lookout for when I'm getting jaded or into a rut over something I want to keep on enjoying, whether games, music or food etc.. and give it a bit of break or try to adjust accordingly. My view is that I would never want to get to that point where I can't enjoy something I used to ever again, which is why I think that it's worth keeping in mind that a streamer that plays a game day in day out may not be the best source for impartial judgement on a game, when it becomes more of a job then the attitude can easily match.
Frontier needs to not only do something to keep players involved but to give the Elite Dangerous YouTubers something to talk about.
Many of the top YouTubers that used to be almost 100 % Elite Dangerous now cover 25% or less, some have stopped.
Elite Week a past huge supporter has changed their name and stopped Elite coverage
Many of the top YouTubers that used to be almost 100 % Elite Dangerous now cover 25% or less, some have stopped.
Elite Week a past huge supporter has changed their name and stopped Elite coverage
The game changed profoundly in character just before the release of engineers. Since then, every time FDev had a choice to make regarding the theme and flavour of the game, they went in the direction that annoyed me most.
Horizons was so good that it gave me enough hope to suspend my disbelief all the way until fleet carriers were announced to be a thing. That was the last straw and I moved over to the Other Game.
The more lore they fleshed out, the less room there was for my imagination.
Instead of working on placeholders they kept releasing crap features with telepresence excuses.
Horizons was so good that it gave me enough hope to suspend my disbelief all the way until fleet carriers were announced to be a thing. That was the last straw and I moved over to the Other Game.
The more lore they fleshed out, the less room there was for my imagination.
Instead of working on placeholders they kept releasing crap features with telepresence excuses.
In all honesty it's quite nice to have a FC with most on your ships immediately available..
Though, I don't like how they clutter up the universe..
Though, I don't like how they clutter up the universe..
They only clutter the bubble, if Tritium wasn't so hard to get out in the black mine would be out there now.
Why isn't Tritium availably at Explorer's Anchorage ?
I was wondering where the OP got 4,000 from. More like 14,000, which made it big news at the time, even NASA astronauts tweeted about it! Sadly I can't see anything players do these days will ever match that, unless its an event that reveals what Raxxla is
That DW2 CG was the best time ever in this game for me. Building the Explorer's Anchorage, and having a whole expedition to go on to do it is the kind of epic community event this game needs imo. I hope Frontier have some ideas planned along the lines of what events like Distant Worlds, Gnosis, and Jaques brought to the game back in the day. Something thats imaginative and inspires thousands of players to sign up, something that gets the gaming press involved again and helps promote the game to new audiences. We haven't had anything like that for several years now.
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My feelings too. A lot of main headline features that came to Elite came out of left field and were things no one ask for. Powerplay and Engineers are the prime two examples. I remember PP especially, as the speculation was rife on the forums of what the next expansion was about, then when it was announced the forums went into meltdown. People expected existing gameplay to be fleshed out, the galaxy to be revamped and filled with new phenomena and astronomical discoveries to be made, combat given a overhaul, crime and punishment re-thought, new professions, mining to get some love etc. All that went out of the window in favour of Frontier tacking on something no one asked for in PP. And it was the same with the engineers expansion too. They added new grind instead of depth to existing features that had so much potential, but never fulfilled it.
Hehe, I agree to an extent. But some content creators did marvelous things at one point. Premonition event, the discovery of Jaques that lead to Colonia, and the two Distant Worlds events speak for themselves. All these were brought into being by content creators (albeit the in game content creators, and not the ones who make a living off Elite making YT vids). Not all content creators are the same
A lot of what you want got written off a few years back now when a bunch of people decided that spreading false versions of events, circulating conspiracy theories, and sending RL death threats was a suitable response to a player organised event not going the way they wanted.
We’ve all been living with the legacy of it ever since.
They and/or the descendants of the Guardians AIs are very likely* to be the beings encountered by Halsey:
Galnet News | Elite Dangerous Community Site
(*That should probably be upgraded to ‘almost certainly’ given that the in-game version of events is that it was Halsey’s visions that lead to the seeking out and discovery of the Guardian planets - Halsey’s visions were of them as they were, not as they are now.)
About 4,300 signed up on EDSM, that’s what I used, I thought this was a safe number.
Many more signed up on the DW2 spreadsheet 14,000-15,000 I think.
Not sure how many actually participated.
the organizers did a outstanding job making this one of the most memorable events in all of gaming
What I was referring to is new game content,events that give the YouTubers a reason to do Elite Dangerous videos.
While none of that is at all ok or right - we agree on that - the 'legacy' of that isn't the fault of players.
Yes, you read that correctly. What they did was wrong. The legacy of those actions, though, wholly rest with the developer. FDev choosing a hardened stance on player communications is one such example (and that's not bad or inappropriate, obviously). Choosing to intentionally under-develop a title, be silent to the player community, or ignore valuable feedback.
I'll use an anaology here: if the bank robber, waving a gun at your face, says, "Get out of the car before it explodes and kills us both!"
Do you ignore them because they are a bank robber?
I often feel FDev treats its communities based on its perception of its few trolls. This is a great recipe for creating more trolls, and I think we've seen that legacy born out over several years now. EDO's launch just being the most recent hatch.
Eggs in trying times indeed. Hmph. Now you know where they're coming from.
I can imagine a lot of things.
And I think the player base has pitched more than just a few good ideas, none of which have been onboarded.
Personally, I'm inclined to say, they should sell the franchise to a dev team who has a better vision of what this game will be or should be. Someone who can communicate about the roadmap, what they want the game to become and what future plans are.
Well, World of Warcraft has done that quite neatly with instancing.
If 2 players were at the same stage of a quest, they were able to party up and be in the same instance. If not, then they can't see each other/wink out when they enter an instanced quest area.
And the bring your own sand analogy is brilliant. That's really what it is.
I've played Valheim too, love it, it's like Minecraft on Steroids. And the same goes for Minecraft itself. They game is simple, yet it has insane depth once you get started on it. I can sink in hours and hours playing with my kids, building stuff and farming stuff.
Perhaps a slight misunderstanding of what I meant by the legacy.
Clearly not everything that happens is a result of that.
But it does rule out some models of working.
And what of the effect on the players who were on the receiving ends of that stuff? People who’d been part of the organisation of various things basically went into hiding.
Point is that once that stuff has happened once then the idea of player content makers becomes a very different proposition. It’s not something that can readily be done because protections have to be built in. Personally I’d imagine the legal dept just gave a hard no to various things.
Player stuff has been incorporated, but a lot of the time it’s been done in a non-obvious way. As an example, AFAIK the Far God stuff was something player originated which FD picked up and ran with in-game.
This stuff I wouldn’t put down to the legacy of that particular event and it’s aftermath:
But the equation (about content, not the things you mentioned above) is fairly simple. If non-FD people creating content for the game are driven away, less content gets created for the game. If the model of having non-FD people creating content for the game becomes too high risk, then it stops, and we get less content.
(And then eventually people start suggesting that model of working as the solution to a lack of content. - which isn’t a bad thing - it would be a good suggestion if it wasn’t for the reasons that model of working stopped in the first place.)
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There are simple things that can be done like if Sirius Cop (Fdev) hand creates a closed loop type race course track on a planet.
I bet many Player groups would love to organize racing events.
OR
Cross Country type race course track with markers
Hill-Climbs
Small ship racing courses
Canyon jumping ramp, for Canyon jumping
I bet many Player groups would love to organize racing events.
OR
Cross Country type race course track with markers
Hill-Climbs
Small ship racing courses
Canyon jumping ramp, for Canyon jumping
I highly doubt it would cost them hundreds of dev hours to set up a race track.
The arches and pylons and everything else is already in game. Set up a track, hit publish and the players will do the rest.
Make sure you (the devs) play it first BEFORE publishing!
When you filter carriers it just needs to show your carrier, friend list carriers and squadron carriers and everything else should get filtered. Its that easy. Apparently that's too much to ask.