I just love the twin rotating lance nacelles. That fan concept would have been perfect. It's not too late for FD to rename the Courier and implement a more true to the original design, but I guess that's almost entitled sounding.
Please add a modern equivalent of the old Imperial Courier
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yes, i love it too, but heck, i'd take it even if they didn't spin. that fan made model just hits the nail on the head!
and yeah it would be nice for them to pull the name out and save it for later, but if i could get a real courier looking ship that was on a similar level to the asp then i'd take her no matter what the name! imperial hoover here i come!
I thank you, sir.
Anyway, Frontier have enough on their plate with 1.3 without worrying about some old skool nutters like me complaining about the lack of historic ships. Both the current Clipper and Courier are wonderful designs in themselves, in no way am I criticising the design, artwork, sound or anything else.
If the current Clipper was called the Courier and the current Courier was called the Scout or 'Custodian' (if it really needs to begin with a 'C') or some such there would probably have been no complaints at all.
It does just feel a bit of shame that the ships aren't all aligned with previous games, when there doesn't seem to be a particularly good reason why that shouldn't be the case.
For instance the Cobra and Sidewinder are brilliant realisations of the original ships, whereas the Adder and the FDL bear almost no resemblance to what they looked like before. If you're going to realise new ships why not give them totally new names rather than pinch the names of ships that have gone before which looked different and did different things?
In the case of the Courier, it was the iconic ship of FE2 and FFE, in much the same way that the Cobra mk3 was the iconic ship of the original Elite. Lots of folks are attached to it for that reason.
There's nothing to lose and much to gain to by tieing the current game into the old one; lots of lore, lots of history, lots of mystery and lots of engaging story. Breaking that, even in small ways, seems to be detracting from some of the core 'Eliteness' of the entire franchise.
We'll see. It's Frontier's game at the end of the day.
Peace to all,
Cheers,
Drew.
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to drew again.
But this. I never knew much less played the old Elites. I heard of this game at all on DEc. 16th last year when I didnt even have a PC. By Dec 25th I was playing it. That should tell how much I liked it when I saw it.
And during that week of intense research, youtubing and forum read, you guys, the old players, tell a lot of stories and bring a lot of what was back in the days. And I remember seeing this ship -which looks both ugly but elegant in my eyes- and even I was already on the wagon of expecting a remake that would make it fly again..
That design needs to be brought back. And they shouldnt taint the name, look and rep when is clear that this ship thrives in the very vivid memories of nowadays old kids...too bad you guys didnt get it back...hope you do sometime....
This thread wouldn't exist if this was true.
It's not a case of asking for a ship with the capabilities of the old courier, that, indeed, might be something like the Clipper. No, what we want is the old courier. It's the shape, the icon, the vision, the memories, the feel, the threat, the bright blue streamers. The clipper is a fine ship, but it is not the old courier. And clearly, the new one isn't either.
Like the Cobra, the courier is an iconic part of the elite universe. Indeed, the most iconic ships in the elite universe are the Cobra and the Courier, followed by the Asp and Krait. To not get that iconic shape is what upsets us. Well, me, anyway. It's not game killing, it's just dream killing.
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please look at the pictures of the old courier. the clipper looks like a luxury yacht (and a very nice one at that) the real courier looks like a bird of prey. the fan that did the rework captured the real couriers essence perfectly. the current imperial offerings do not look like war ships. we have a luxury yacht and a soon to be sports car. both are very nice but neither evokes the same response as the real courier does. just counting the number of engines is not the same as replacing the look and feel of the old beauty.
this, this is exactly how i feel. i was excited to hear the courier was part of the plan for ED, i ground out my imperial ranks in anticipation of it. i loved the fact one of the frontier art team was talking with the fan about their replication of the courier and hoped they would pull in their sketch of it (which essentially smoothed out the panel look) into the game.
i am now very disappointed to see that as things stand there will not be a ship in the game that reminds me of the old courier. it's killed my dream to fly my old favourite ship
those new players who are trying to tell us the clipper is the courier just completely fail to grasp what it is about the courier that makes it so unique. it's like saying you wanted a Lamborghini, well here is a car that has 4 wheels and is just as fast. it's just not the same, cars like that have a personality and a certain style that cant be replaced by numbers. 2 engine pods does not a courier make. large guns does not a courier make. plenty of internal space does not a courier make. the name does not make it either. it's that iconic styling that makes the ship. i took one look at it in the instruction manual and i just HAD to have it! i didn't care if there were bigger ships, i wanted that one because it just looked perfect.
I love my Clipper for what it is, I will buy and hangar the new Courier, but I still want a true to original Courier.
I am hoping FD have plans for a "Classic Ships" expansion in the future that will let people get their hands on the obsolete ships of the last 300 years. The old Courier and Clipper, the Cobra MKI, The Eagle MkII with the dodgy retros, the Constrictor, some of the pokey little fighters and in system shuttles.
And an old favourite, the Krait.
If you want this campaign to succeed, it's not Michael you need to call first. You need to contact one of your fellow authors and get a bovid related protest movement going....
Frontier are well aware of this affair by now. They haven't mentioned it at all in the newsletter, that means they don't intend to do anything about it. Enough is enough.
Cheers,
Drew.
FYI they just renamed the Diamondback to Diamondback Scout. So such an idea is not that unrealistic. You should have a chat with Michael.
The first picture of the inside of what became the clipper was captioned the Imperial Courier in the newsletter.
I don't know if that was a mistake, but I'm now assuming the ship that is called the clipper was originally the new version of the courier.
I believe there was another ship mentioned called the Imperial Scout, which I thought became the Imperial Fighter, but maybe its what is now called the Imperial Courier?
Javert
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I suspect that part of the reason for this might be that spinning nacelles and very thin spiky bits cause a bit of a headache from a graphics and performance point of view.
Obviously if it could be done in FFE, in theory it can be done here, so it's probably not insurmountable, but I suspect that it creates some new issues for them to work through.
Obviously if it could be done in FFE, in theory it can be done here, so it's probably not insurmountable, but I suspect that it creates some new issues for them to work through.
Ships can already have animated parts. I've noticed T9 thrusters vectoring and opening/closing for thrust.
i think they are aware of it and they added a sly below the belt blow by changing the name of the diamondback to diamondback SCOUT knowing people had suggested changing the name of the Courier
Javert
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Not really. Michael Brookes specifically answered "no" when asked whether this was anything to do with all the posts about ship capabilities. I think it's more likely that they are planning to bring in a Diamondback "somthing else" later on.
Because ELITE without the Cobra might as well be star citizen that's why. The Courier wasn't even in the original one.... hell the empire wasn't in the original Elite.
Also Im pretty sure the Courier was bigger than what you guys show it compared to the Cobra Much bigger.