Please don't attack defenseless...
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Just what I've been saying all along. You have a pathological relationship to your own virtual personality and you assume that everyone has to have that.
Jerry is not Nader.
Nader is not RoA
Only the real person behind the Avatar is important to you. And that shows clearly what's wrong with you.
If you play a game to replace reality with fiction and become the person you want to be, your approach is just reasonable.But to demand this very special view from all the other players has something of megalomania.
I play to portray different people that I want to be. Pirates, smugglers, law enforcement, saints, whatever.
You'll never understand this because you don't play elite! You live it and you seriously believe the title collection in your signature makes you important.
That's the big difference between nerd and gamer .... to know where a game starts and ends ....
very easy to understand.
This whining marathon of gankers getting ganked is most hilarious thing to happen for a while. If you do not like getting ganked, well, then as you say "git gud" and stop that carebearish saltiness... It really seems to me that SPEAR is doing well enough job to raise such crying 
This whining marathon of gankers getting ganked is most hilarious thing to happen for a while. If you do not like getting ganked, well, then as you say "git gud" and stop that carebearish saltiness... It really seems to me that SPEAR is doing well enough job to raise such crying
LOOOL, you simply didn't get what this thread is all about. reboot please and start reading again. maybe it helps.
I knew George Nader, he was a hard working CMDR, working tirelessly to provide for his wife and children before his life was snatched away by the zealots of SPEAR.
Tomorrow at 12 noon, RSM will hold a candle light vigil for George and will be providing comfort and assistance for his family. We will also be holding a collection for George's wife and children and whilst we appreciate this will not bring George back, we hope it at least provides some comfort for his family.
If you would like to attend, please contact RSM's Humanitarian Division.
We realise that the situation in Deciat is rapidly declining and we are currently looking at all scenarios on how RSM can provide assistance and bring the killers of George to justice.
Pray4George
Tomorrow at 12 noon, RSM will hold a candle light vigil for George and will be providing comfort and assistance for his family. We will also be holding a collection for George's wife and children and whilst we appreciate this will not bring George back, we hope it at least provides some comfort for his family.
If you would like to attend, please contact RSM's Humanitarian Division.
We realise that the situation in Deciat is rapidly declining and we are currently looking at all scenarios on how RSM can provide assistance and bring the killers of George to justice.
Pray4George
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Well from start certain lets say "ganky" characters have whined about unfair tactics and being constantly attacked. Big BOOHOO from me I say. You get what you deserve
Well from start certain lets say "ganky" characters have whined about unfair tactics and being constantly attacked. Big BOOHOO from me I say. You get what you deserve
awfully wrong. the main topic is the bigotry of some people within SPEAR. and nothing else. killing commanders with no entry on their criminal record and arguing them to be terrorists is a little bit ... strange at least. especially from a player group calling themselves law enforcers.
and then not having the cojones to admit they do simply the same as the gankers they try to hunt is sort of psychodelic and makes me fear for their real life health.Well from start certain lets say "ganky" characters have whined about unfair tactics and being constantly attacked. Big BOOHOO from me I say. You get what you deserve
"Clean commander", one who's bounty was cleared, and possibly playing low to replenish credits for a new gankfest. Sorry no sympathies for them. They can always play in solo if consequences of their chosen playstyle come too hard bear.
no, completely clean, because this player also has a second account playing on the dark side. and SPEAR also killed me, and I have never been in PvP at all. so what ...
There is one difference, gankers prey usually on soft targets, and people just minding their own business. Those SPEAR guys gank the gankers.
That "clean" commander can always git gud
well, i am no ganker. so you are wrong.
hm, maybe i should become one, just to be a pain in the .... of some guys ...
Spear dont gank gankers. They gank everyone they want. They dont ask, kws or check in spyware datebase, they just gank, sometimes with their outlaw allies, then justify it. Thats how neutral players on taxi/pve ships become dangerous and highly toxic griefers sometimes just for being friendly with someone who spear dont like. Ez
lol all people from SPEAR are replying, of course what else can you ing say.
I've never been mad at the bounty, whay annoys me is the level of lies the "organization" has, is pure rubbish.
they are just bounty hunters who like to pretend to be something else.
I've never been mad at the bounty, whay annoys me is the level of lies the "organization" has, is pure rubbish.
they are just bounty hunters who like to pretend to be something else.
Read though this monster thread... While it was an entertaining sh/tshow, I found myself agreeing more with your side, interestingly enough, even though I represent outlaw colors.
At the end of the day, SPEAR is truly a group of vigilantes, fighting outlaws for certain crimes they occasionally commit against players. This inherently includes murdering of people that are, for example, peacefully robbing npcs, under CODE tags, or whatever, that's completely fine. When people join our fold, we tend to warn them, that they may face lawfuls that will attack them, simply because they rolled in our colors once, and it's documented/remembered. That's open. You're batmen, fighting fire with fire. Makes sense.
Open is also the place where outlaws are free to murder whoever they desire, which is also fine the way it is. When SPEAR jumps in to take care of these people, in my eyes it now makes sense that you use premium. Your goal is to stop "outlaw" activity, not particularly to have a fair fight. Therefore, any argument about it being unfair sounds really dull, especially from gankers.
But also, it's completely understandable how they do not want to take part in premium crafting, since that's an extremely poorly executed feature, linked to grinding. I understand them not wanting to fight you because of this, since they can't be sure if premium was used, only suspect it when it's already too late, and fighting every cmdr they run into with premium is an overly expensive playstyle.
EDR is truly powerful in this case, because lawfuls have a clear target ahead of them, who definitely needs to be eradicated. This info is not there for the outlaw, generating a scenario, where the lawful has a guaranteed premium advantage for a pre-planned confrontation. This, of course, is not a clear cut case of any ToS breaching, but the plugin synergizes with this broken premium feature wonderfully, giving a massive tactical advantage. That's a little fishy in my eyes, but like I described before, you have a goal ahead of you, I won't stop you from doing it more efficiently. I can't, that is. Sadly.
Let's hope some outlaw will one day make a tool that detects people using EDR, making us prepared for potential premium conflicts.
Read again what I wrote and directly copied from the Eula/ToS. See the difference to what you stated? There is no should be result in ban, there is can result in ban. Nobody is arguing that there shouldn't be lawful players or player bounty hunters who hunt wanted players. It's then you make it your goal to disrupt repeatedly somebodies (not in-game character) or a groups game play you might cross the line to harassment. In the same way if a ganker kills the same person over and over in a short period of time. People got banned to the shadow realms for that.
If I'm wanted I expect everybody, their mom, and their kitchen sink to come after me to collect the 100cr-?cr bounty. If I'm not wanted I expect "criminals" to come after me for the tasty cargo or my amazing paintjob, but not law enforcement. Do the lawful-outlaw role-play within the confines of ED. One character is not the same as another, even if the player behind them is the same.
End of the day Spear this, Spear that, shoot them, burn their ships, kill their allies, attack their friends, they cant be everywhere, that's how you fight Spear if you want to. If outnumbered then pick them off, amend your tactics, no one can force you to face off 12 v 4 unless you want to. If they are using premium don't fight them head on unless it favours you, they need to stop you not the other way around. Spear isn't anything new, before Spear it was TOAL, before that GPL/BBFA etc they all had the same MO.
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I mean, I'm not exactly sure what you were thinking joining spear's discord while ganking in deciat, with the bounty from ganking in deciat still on your ship lmao
talk about walking into the wolf's den
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