Please don't attack defenseless...

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Look... SPEARbois... At this point all you're really accomplishing here is turning randos against you. Perhaps now is a good time to cut your losses and bow out.

And you came up with that "fact" on which basis exactly? All I see is the same folks, the same side, repeatedly shouting from the top of their lungs. Gotta be exhausting.
 
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10 pages later (on my forum settings, YMMV) and I see lots of "No u", "U big dumb dumb" and off-topic posts, interspersed with the odd post actually being on-topic or basis for actual discourse.
Now, let's see if you guys can actually discuss the posts in the latter category. New posts in the first three categories can expect to have their author get the goat sent after them....and take a break from this thread.

Now surprise me and help me not wear out my "thread actions" button.
Thanks!
 
I found it very interesting, on my main account, to encounter a SPEAR (allegedly) Lawful CMDR, whilst I was checking through my missions outside of my home station, busily shooting the shield from my ship. As I had no sound feedback I was pretty much unaware of the fact... (no headphones on)

Now my main is a dreadful character who has sent many NPC's to their own Valhalla, is a member of a squadron, and only plays PvE :) (leaving the PvP for those who are both skilled and enjoy said mode)

Oh yes, SPEAR are so very Lawful they will attack a clean player 'just in case'...

Being truthful, I think I prefer the murderhobos I play alongside, they do care for their friends and squad-mates and can be trusted implicitly to behave in-character at all times.

So, yes, SPEAR - don't attack the defenceless (as it was obvious to your crony that I wasn't playing pew-pew) levy your own 'Laws' on your own Player Killers, who like to kill clean players.
 
Being truthful, I think I prefer the murderhobos I play alongside, they do care for their friends and squad-mates and can be trusted implicitly to behave in-character at all times.
On this front, when I've been in a system and saw a couple of well-known SDC members in supercruise, I knew what I was getting into and proceeded to take steps to stop being in that system. Likewise, there was a time I saw a few guys from another unlawful squadron doing donuts just outside the station gun's range of Jameson Memorial, firing upon someone. I didn't wait for them to fire on me - I plotted a route, set pips to 4-2-0, and got the hell out of masslock as fast as I could. One of them had phasing but since I hadn't skipped hull day I was fine. With murderhoboes, especially people who are openly murderhoboes, you know what you're getting and you can usually see them coming if you're paying any kind of attention.

It's funny, 'cause it used to be the case that I'd see SPEAR flying around an engineer system and think it was a safe place for peaceful CMDRs. Some SPEAR members I still feel that way about. Others... I can't help but wonder how the bar is before they'll decide that clean ship in front of them doesn't count as a "peaceful CMDR".
 
I found it very interesting, on my main account, to encounter a SPEAR (allegedly) Lawful CMDR, whilst I was checking through my missions outside of my home station, busily shooting the shield from my ship. As I had no sound feedback I was pretty much unaware of the fact... (no headphones on)

Now my main is a dreadful character who has sent many NPC's to their own Valhalla, is a member of a squadron, and only plays PvE :) (leaving the PvP for those who are both skilled and enjoy said mode)

Oh yes, SPEAR are so very Lawful they will attack a clean player 'just in case'...

Being truthful, I think I prefer the murderhobos I play alongside, they do care for their friends and squad-mates and can be trusted implicitly to behave in-character at all times.

So, yes, SPEAR - don't attack the defenceless (as it was obvious to your crony that I wasn't playing pew-pew) levy your own 'Laws' on your own Player Killers, who like to kill clean players.

What's the name of your main account, do you remember who that was?
It shouldn't be too hard to find some evidence of that in your player journal: https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/faq.php?id=372
 
On this front, when I've been in a system and saw a couple of well-known SDC members in supercruise, I knew what I was getting into and proceeded to take steps to stop being in that system. Likewise, there was a time I saw a few guys from another unlawful squadron doing donuts just outside the station gun's range of Jameson Memorial, firing upon someone. I didn't wait for them to fire on me - I plotted a route, set pips to 4-2-0, and got the hell out of masslock as fast as I could. One of them had phasing but since I hadn't skipped hull day I was fine. With murderhoboes, especially people who are openly murderhoboes, you know what you're getting and you can usually see them coming if you're paying any kind of attention.

It's funny, 'cause it used to be the case that I'd see SPEAR flying around an engineer system and think it was a safe place for peaceful CMDRs. Some SPEAR members I still feel that way about. Others... I can't help but wonder how the bar is before they'll decide that clean ship in front of them doesn't count as a "peaceful CMDR".

If you have evidence of such behavior, then share it.
Or are you just interested in planting a narrative?
 
The topic was about escorting defenseless ships to the engineer in Deciat, whereas the advertising organization itself attack known gankers and George in the very system.

so, it’s somehow pointless.

Imho u can’t expect any meaningful „discussion“ based on these facts 🤷‍♂️

Fix that for you.
Now, if you have actual evidence beside your friend George's case, then share it.
 
I found it very interesting, on my main account, to encounter a SPEAR (allegedly) Lawful CMDR, whilst I was checking through my missions outside of my home station, busily shooting the shield from my ship. As I had no sound feedback I was pretty much unaware of the fact... (no headphones on)

Now my main is a dreadful character who has sent many NPC's to their own Valhalla, is a member of a squadron, and only plays PvE :) (leaving the PvP for those who are both skilled and enjoy said mode)

Oh yes, SPEAR are so very Lawful they will attack a clean player 'just in case'...

Being truthful, I think I prefer the murderhobos I play alongside, they do care for their friends and squad-mates and can be trusted implicitly to behave in-character at all times.

So, yes, SPEAR - don't attack the defenceless (as it was obvious to your crony that I wasn't playing pew-pew) levy your own 'Laws' on your own Player Killers, who like to kill clean players.
This right here underlines my main problem with Spear. It's not enough to play as the enforcers, they feel that if you are a ganker or fly with gankers, you yourself, as a player, needs to be punished. They just take it too seriously.
 
What's the name of your main account, do you remember who that was?
It shouldn't be too hard to find some evidence of that in your player journal: https://support.frontier.co.uk/kb/faq.php?id=372
I'm Ratkatcher, a happy PvE player.

Your Ganker Lawful member (member, a good description for him :) ) was none other than Estelar.
The incident was outside Robardin Rock, in Carcosa - and yes, I'm very proud to be a member of Loren's Reapers, thank you, they are a great and happy bunch to associate with.
 
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