I really, really don't like the sound of that. By the time a player is much above Competent, they're using subtargeting. I don't mind if they stop low ranks from using it, but high ranks should be ruthless in going after your powerplant or drives.
Please dont nerf the AI anymore.
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Well as I said earlier I killed a dangerous FGS which didn't even fire back and dissappeared in a puff in jig time.
I will remind you guys you have claimed FD have nerfed AI for some fourth update now
Change log so far mentions tuning some bugs and interdiction fixes. What else is there to claim there's huge AI nerf? I am afraid you are just acting pro actively about potential changes.
Read the patch notes again. They've nerfed the AI in half a dozen ways. And they are planning more nerfs. I would repost the details, but I am using all my willpower to not uninstall the game right now.
You don't even need patch notes. Just log into the game. Pick a "fight". Help the NPCs commit suicide.
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Honestly I wish the cry baby brigade like you would just make good on their threats and just leave, and leave us in peace. I am working so haven't tried the new patch yet, so I will reserve judgement until I have played. But from what I am hearing the AI is a bunch of dunces again. I fly mostly an almost unmodded asp x. I collect some upgrades, and move them to my other ships. I had NO issue killing an elite corvette with 2 escorts for a mission. NONE, ZERO, ZILCH. It took a while because he was spamming SCBs but he hard fought back. And now its even easier thanks to the whining cry babies. If it is as bad as people are saying, I can tell you FD have lost my money and I love this game, the AI was finally somewhat capable.
Bunch of whining little children need to go back to playing farmville or something.
I'm confused. I thought you uninstalled.
They have nerfed the AI in each patch. After 2.1 went live it was a little challenge, next patch less challenge, now apperrently even less challenge, it was barely above 2.0 levels before the last patch.I will remind you guys you have claimed FD have nerfed AI for some fourth update now
Change log so far mentions tuning some bugs and interdiction fixes. What else is there to claim there's huge AI nerf? I am afraid you are just acting pro actively about potential changes.
I read patch notes and there's nothing about nerfs, just turning fixes and taking boost away from lower rankings (which was by design). They are looking into "submodules targeting", but it is not done deal.
So again, where are nerfs?
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No, they didn't. They fixed various issues, and did balancing pass.
"Be careful what you wish for..." was said by many, no one listens they we're too busy laughing and shouting "Git Gud!".
I won't say I told you all so, but I told you all so!
When games start to loose any numbers at all, they have to start plugging the holes. Was the AI too hard? Maybe some were. But when the bears (players) are upset, you don't poke the bear without a roar or a paw to the face. Some poked!
Yes, it sucks that it has come down to winners and loosers in ED. I read here each day and wonder if there will ever be a happy medium with any of it.
I won't say I told you all so, but I told you all so!
When games start to loose any numbers at all, they have to start plugging the holes. Was the AI too hard? Maybe some were. But when the bears (players) are upset, you don't poke the bear without a roar or a paw to the face. Some poked!
Yes, it sucks that it has come down to winners and loosers in ED. I read here each day and wonder if there will ever be a happy medium with any of it.
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We do not know this for sure. The AI update thread said they were considering it, plus it maybe only for lower ranked ships. Lets wait and see how they apply it before making statements about things that hasn't been released yet.
So the NPCs are nerfed unless they use the word "Nerf" in the patch notes? interesting. I guess they have never been buffed then either.
No need to be so hostile.
I am not talking about early game , but what I have seen.
I cant talk about early game because even if I reset I would not be on the same level as a new player.
I have been playing elite dangerous sins about prenuim beta in 2014. played it every single day after work and as much as I could on weekends.
I never used exploits and role play in the game , that means that I only do things if it fits my in game motif.
I fly mostly Type-7s My vulture and from time to time my good old eagle and viper for old nostalgia.
I am not saying the game should be impossible but saying that high ranked NPCs (Master to elite) should be hard , no matter your rank.
Maybe have them ignore low ranks most of the time? (that could make sens in lore as well actualy)
However I am fine with low NPCs being dumb and just plain easy , but the High level NPCs should be hard for everyone who fights them.
Running away is a valid thing to do in elite and even when the weapons were buged it was possible.
Maybe there is a generation or taste thing going on , I remeber X-tension the game started with you in the worst possible build.
Terrible weapons that could do nearly no damage , no protection so you died in one or two hits and not nearly the ammount of cargo hold to make a profit.
You had to rise from that impossible situation to become giant. it was hard , it was slow but you felt so badasp when reached that stage in the game , when you finaly were on top of everything. (then it became easy and needed mods)
I have nothing against your opinion , you or even those who want the game easyer , but I noticed that the audiance who want to nerf the AI seem very hostile and borderline abusive.
Telling the hardcore players they have no life , and other such nonens.
In game I have helped many new gamers , I give free wares to them when need be.
The game should be fun for everyone , that includes me. I have been petioning for a AI that can kick my asp for a long time. it happened , and it looks like its fading away.
Just in case my expression sucks more than black hole , I agree low ranks should be easy , however high ranks should be insane , and new players should run away when they see them (maybe have a vocal warning when they spawn?)
Haven't tried it yet since the patch, but Jesus, if they've gone back to the useless laughable ai before Engineers, then I'm out. The only reason I came back is because combat became an actual challenge.
If FD think dumbing the ai back down is gonna help with ED's longevity, what are they thinking?
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I will admit to being a pathetic person.
But just the idea scares me. and I mean real emotional fear.
I play games to be transported into a world , the elite world based on the books and other fiction states its a horrible place in space , most only live a few hours.
That needs to be reflected in game , at least with the high end NPCs
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Its not that bad , they have nerfed it to being broken like before.
But now the universe is full of low level threats and I have yet to even see a single master+ NPC.
I am only ''dangerous'' as I dont grind (just a state of mind afterall)
.. and when the forum demands the AI is still too tough for unshielded traders, that "promise" will be rammed down FD's throat till it's implemented.. gotta say I'm a little disappointed, I liked the way the AI was going..
P.s. Thanks Mom.. some of us appreciated your work
I remeber she told me we would get FA/OFF elite ranked NPCs... but I cant see that being a thing no more..... and when the forum demands the AI is still too tough for unshielded traders, that "promise" will be rammed down FD's throat till it's implemented.. gotta say I'm a little disappointed, I liked the way the AI was going..
P.s. Thanks Mom.. some of us appreciated your work
Such talent going to waste , her AI was state of the art , something I had yet to see anywere else
Maybe the Mods should do some moderation on the generalisations of the AI whiners brigade.
Well I would argue that as long as there are no threats of leaving , or insults to the devs its not whining but feedback.
One of my rules was if giving feedback state what is the element I dont like and never use the word ''suck''
I went on and proposed this idea : https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/267892-Hardcore-option
I meant any targeted nerfing. It seems majority of tweaks are bugs not conforming design. Some of issues you have mentioned feel like bug though (big ships with fixed weaponry).
It is not about thinking, it is about various in-game statistics available to FD. For example, if they see that majority of players is playing less and less after some game change, they fix it. So, if majority of players does not like harder AI, they change it. It is a logical step, because the only thing that counts is profit from existing and new players (customers). It is a bussiness, not charity.
Well the generalisations in this piece of delirium should definitely be kicked to touch by the Mods because it's unfounded crap.