Post Patch STOCK Mamba boosts to 387m/s | Frontier's Speed Demon Unleashed!

galahad2069 · Dec 19, 2018

Deareim said:
It is supposed to be a ship racer no ? What is the point of it being slow....

It was supposed to be a combat ship based on a racer prototype, not a racer tank armed to the teeth with more guns than a small fleet.

Akaradrin · Dec 19, 2018

My Mamba goes 592 m/s fully armored and ready for combat, but still flies like a Viper IV with worse lateral thrusters.

I love the ship anyway (probably because I love the Vipers).

Knightshark · Dec 19, 2018

Akaradrin said:
My Mamba goes 592 m/s fully armored and ready for combat, but still flies like a Viper IV with worse lateral thrusters.

I love the ship anyway (probably because I love the Vipers).

What if I like the Vipers for their lateral thursters?

B1rdy · Dec 19, 2018

Deareim said:
It is supposed to be a ship racer no ? What is the point of it being slow....

No, it wasn't, neither is it slow.

Kamiyoda · Dec 19, 2018

Ashnak said:
Coriolis says boost to 640 and change. If you fiddle around, a full weapons loadout in a lightweight shield based setup is possible while keeping that speed - although I'd hate having to take that against a well shielded/armoured PvP build, my Courier has better shields (and hull) than that.
But the speed vs. mass curve in Coriolis drops very slowly.

*strips my Mamba* Yeah I barely get just under 613 in game. Im not seeing 640.

Editness: Wait, I need to take off even more stuff, actually I think itll be faster to make another one at this point.

Ashnak · Dec 19, 2018

For what it's worth: https://s.orbis.zone/1aqg

Just don't bring this baby to a real fight and complain afterwards that you've been killed. Talk about glass cannon - if you hang around until the shields are stripped, chances are that you won't get the chance to run any more.

Arubeto · Dec 19, 2018

So it's still not going to win against a Courier in those canyon races?

Vardaugas · Dec 19, 2018

Arubeto said:
So it's still not going to win against a Courier in those canyon races?

It's a drag racer, not formula one.

Conch · Dec 19, 2018

Arubeto said:
So it's still not going to win against a Courier in those canyon races?

A courier does 886ms

Aashenfox · Dec 19, 2018

I hope nobody was expecting something equivalent to a lighweight enhanced thruster courier build. They go so fast because of the amazing compromises you have to do to get the weight down to a workable value. If the Mamba boosts 600 in combat fit, it earns its name, imo.

Bob McBobblehead · Dec 19, 2018

387, my first thought was math coprocessor.

Bortas · Dec 19, 2018

Ashnak said:
Coriolis says boost to 640 and change. If you fiddle around, a full weapons loadout in a lightweight shield based setup is possible while keeping that speed - although I'd hate having to take that against a well shielded/armoured PvP build

And why would you, or anyone for that matter? Top speed is hardly ever decisive in any PvP engagement, unless you want to flee in which case a higher MLF is more useful than higher top speed. No medium ship except another Python could ever put my Python into any real danger. Getting 10 m/s more is nice but I'm currently more interested in the agility buff the Mamba got. Hope it's a bite more substantial than the speed buff.

Typhon · Dec 19, 2018

Bortas said:
And why would you, or anyone for that matter? Top speed is hardly ever decisive in any PvP engagement, unless you want to flee in which case a higher MLF is more useful than higher top speed. Gettin 10 m/s more is nice but I'm currently more interested in the agility buff.

Yup, same, although I'm not too optimistic.

Ian Skippy · Dec 19, 2018

Aashenfox said:
I hope nobody was expecting something equivalent to a lighweight enhanced thruster courier build. They go so fast because of the amazing compromises you have to do to get the weight down to a workable value. If the Mamba boosts 600 in combat fit, it earns its name, imo.

The speed is fine now, it is just that rather poor agility...

Kzak · Dec 19, 2018

Bob McBobblehead said:
387, my first thought was math coprocessor.

I see your math coprocessors and raise you a 512k RAM expansion. Glorious, isn't it?

Blackcompany · Dec 19, 2018

Bortas said:
And why would you, or anyone for that matter? Top speed is hardly ever decisive in any PvP engagement, unless you want to flee in which case a higher MLF is more useful than higher top speed. No medium ship except another Python could ever put my Python into any real danger. Getting 10 m/s more is nice but I'm currently more interested in the agility buff the Mamba got. Hope it's a bite more substantial than the speed buff.

Please post here if the agility buff is significant. I would love to trade a Chieftain for a Mamba.

Kamiyoda · Dec 19, 2018

Blackcompany said:
Please post here if the agility buff is significant. I would love to trade a Chieftain for a Mamba.

Its agility out of the blue zone was improved, its overall agility hasnt been touched IIRC

zeke312 · Dec 19, 2018

Looks like mine will do 600 as is now. Did a bunch of wing assassinations last night to test her out. If the agility is improved, this will be a beast of a combat ship. Might even give my FDL a run for the money.

Blackcompany · Dec 19, 2018

Kamiyoda said:
Its agility out of the blue zone was improved, its overall agility hasnt been touched IIRC

Might be better served to keep my hull tanking Beast then.

Thanks.

Kamiyoda · Dec 19, 2018

zeke312 said:
Looks like mine will do 600 as is now. Did a bunch of wing assassinations last night to test her out. If the agility is improved, this will be a beast of a combat ship. Might even give my FDL a run for the money.

Okay Im looking at the patch notes again and:

Will Flanagan said:
Mamba

Increased top end speed

Increased pitch rate when below max PIPs

Slightly reduced the ENG usage on boost

Slightly increased heat gain to compensate

So its manuverability with less pips was increased and thats it.